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QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:04 PM) Ishikawa is known as a good clubhouse guy FWIW and if you squint hard enough you can see a useful platoon bat to spell Avi and Jose and even Jackson and Melky. Hopefully Robin never uses him against righties. And I mean never. They might have well of kept Davidson if that's the plan. I really feel for Carlos Sanchez who from all accounts is an amazing family man (check his twitter) and it's got to be tough to after playing well for the 2nd half and then having a helluva spring that he's the odd man out. But that's just the way the roster is nothing against him. He's no great shakes but I still think he's a 2-2.5 WAR starter possibly as soon as this year. At 23 he still has time. With his glove he doesn't need to hit much more than 260/300/380 to be a solid starter in today's MLB. Scoring is down and 2B don't hit much anymore. Well if Robin never uses him vs righties and only lefties he should be fired.

QUOTE (Louis Penna @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I definitely get this line of thinking, and I agree to a point, but what has Ishikawa done to earn the spot? At least Davidson was once a top prospect. Given the alternatives of Sands and Ishikawa, I'd go Davidson every time. I don't understand Ishikawa either, but let Davidson have some success at AAA first.

I think the league has juiced the balls this year. Not only are guys hitting a lot more homers, they are clearing walls by a huge margin.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) most of what you say is true. but my point is in jk selecting floyd. With the point, is almost exactly the same. Everyone knew what the deal was way before it was announced. I don't remember if Krause actually had the nerve to lie and say the Bulls would conduct an exhaustive search to find the right fit like Gar said. But other than that, identical, even from where they came.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) lol, I didn't edit anything in your post. You wrote that Hawk will say when the Sox suck and that he knows what's going on. I posted an example of Hawk saying the 78 win Sox had more talent then the club coming off a WS appearance that then won a WS. Hawk is senile and when he says stupid s*** like saying the Sox have more talent than the Royals it makes the entire ORG look bad. When he is on Boston radio. When he is doing White Sox games I mentioned his over the top stuff is shtick. And no, it doesn't make the entire organization look bad. But by all means come into the I love Hawk Harrelson thread and tell us all how we are wrong and he is horrible and senile.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) FutureSox.com ‏@FutureSox 10m10 minutes ago Two names still in camp that are just as interesting as who was cut: Jacob May and Phillippe Aumont. We all know there is about a zero percent chance May makes the team. That is why I was wondering if there really is anything to when they actually cut someone not on one of these $100k detention bonus things. Aumont I would think is a longshot but perhaps in line if someone has to be DL'd or they take 13 pitchers.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) Ok. That was during a White Sox broadcast not on Boston radio. But way to go editing my post to make it look like I posted something I did not.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:06 PM) a great comp but i was looking at this like floyd and krause. People can say what they will about Jerry Krause, but he does have 6 rings. Obviously mostly because of a player that came with the job, but he hit on Scottie Pippen. He listened to Doug Collins and took Horace Grant. He picked up the complimentary pieces. He was the guy that gave Phil Jackson the opportunity. On the other hand, he couldn't wait to blow it up and do it again, and that was one of the bigger disasters in league history.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) Being a homer is fine - whenever I tend to call sporting events I end up having a bit of a homer-ish tone to my announcing. The problem is you can't be homerish to the point of being wrong half the time, which is what Hawk has become. I think most of that is just shtick. He knows what's going on. Before he came to the White Sox, he actually got into a lot of trouble in Boston for calling out ownership and "telling it like it is". He still has a bit of a cult hero status in Boston, and when the White Sox visit there, goes on sports radio pretty often. There he gives a pretty blunt description of the White Sox. If they suck, he will say they suck.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) But he's confident right now DA! That's true. Sending him down may make him roll up in the fetal position and suck again. To his credit, he apparently has changed some things and has looked good. Whether that is for real or another spring training mirage, we can find out with him in AAA. It's better for him anyway, except for the paycheck.

So the Sox should just ignore the 1141 plate appearances Davidson has made in AAA the past 2 years where he barely hit .200 and struck out more often than Adam Dunn, and base a roster spot on the 44 plate appearances he made this spring in games that don't count. No one really can be serious, right? Send him to Charlotte. If he's worth a roster spot, he will show he's worth a roster spot.

Rosenbloom had a nice one today. Said Gar and Hoiberg is Bulls for Emery and Trestman.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) The important question is, will they win the Catcus League Championship? Who cares about rosters and regular season nonsense. No chance. The DBacks are the Golden State Warriors of the Cactus League.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Teams in basketball purgatory would take a shot on Drose. They would look at his improvement as the season progresses, being another year removed from the injury, etc, not to mention potential for a clean slate as reasons why they make the deal. They know they can't get anyone with the draw of Rose via FA so why not take a chance on a trade. Would the Knicks or Lakers do it, no, but if you are the Kings or some other franchise in a smaller market lacking enough stars to win, I see a lot of reasons why you take the chance on Rose, see if he takes off and you'd have his bird rights to offer more in FA (thus increasing odds you can resign him in the future if he continues to ascend). Plus, all reports are people like playing with Rose. We don't here the same about Butler, but I've never heard anyone say a bad thing about Rose as a teammate (and he's never once said a bad thing about his teammates). The Lakers could get really good next season. I wonder Thibs took over, if there would be any chance they would be willing to trade Russell and whatever garbage would be needed to make it work for Butler.

I think the Bulls could trade Rose pretty easily. It depends on what they would get back. The cap is going up significantly. You wouldn't get a superstar return for him. But if they don't plan on maxing him, why not take what you can get?

Is there any rhyme or reason with how many they cut at a time and when? It really doesn't affect the games at all as guys they have sent back do still get in them.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Which is a long way of saying, it is everybody's fault, except the guys who have actually quit. No, the players have been a problem. The Bulls FO hasn't seen them as a problem up until now. They seem shocked players got hurt with Thibs no longer there. Give Pau $20 million a year, bring back Noah, and see what happens. Guys will get hurt, the team will be mediocre. The Bulls need someone who isn't tied to these guys who can see the forest through the trees. That isn't Gar or Pax. I am not of the illusion the Bulls can be legit title contenders next season no matter what kind of mind they let make the decisions, but it needs to be someone else. This arrangement isn't working, hasn't worked, and won't work.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) Apparently Chemistry only matters for the Bulls. Wasn't firing Thibs supposed to fix the chemistry? Oops. Chemistry is just something people point to when people win. Teams that loved each other have sucked, teams that hated each other have been great, and vice versa. But if basketball players don't like playing with each other, and players can hate a guy but like playing on his team, team performance is going to take a hit. I think there are a lot more guys who would have liked to play with Michael Jordan than who wanted to hang out with him after a game. A beat guy noticed this when they were 10 over .500. This core quit. Many mentioned when the Bulls quit against Cleveland in the playoffs. Why was that a coaching issue and not a player or front office issue? The problems with this team were misdiagnosed by those in postion to attempt to fix them. Moving forward, IMO, someone else should be making the diagnosis.

I am a Hawk guy. I think Jason will be fine, but I kind of appreciate them doing it this way. I can get used to Jason and still have a bit of Hawk, hopefully for at least a couple more years.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) I am too young to remember Hawk from his early Sox broadcasting years. Was he ever considered a great broadcaster or was he always a homer? Why is being a homer the opposite of a great broadcaster? I really don't understand White Sox fans complaining about Hawk being a homer. So what. I do remember people complaining that Joe Buck wasn't excited enough when the Sox won the World Series. What do you want a homer, or someone neutral? On a local broadcast, I want a homer every time. Besides, these guys travel with the team, are with the team all the time. If they couldn't care less if the won or not, what would that say about the players?

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) You said it yourself in an earlier post though. 3 or 4 teams have a chance to win the title every year. The Bulls looked like they were going to have a long window starting with the Rose MVP year, but without Rose, that window effectively closed. A lot needed to go right for this to be a championship caliber roster. Rose needed to return to 85-90% of his MVP form. Noah needed to be the guy he was two seasons ago when he was in the MVP voting conversation. Butler needed to continue his rise to elite status. And the problems with chemistry last year needed to be because of Thibs. Add to that Mirotic continuing to improve and not regressing horribly and some decent contributions from Snell and/or McDermott and this could have been a championship caliber roster. There are a lot of unknowns there, but the point is that is a more reasonable road to contention than blowing it up and starting over. With the benefit of hindsight, things almost definitely wouldn't have been worse with Thibs this year. But Noah still wouldn't be right. And the chemistry issues wouldn't have gone away. The question now is, are we at the end of the Bulls' window or, with a couple tweaks to the roster, can they get competitive again quickly... If the guys don't like playing with each other, I see no reason not to make some major changes. Not blow it up Sixers style and be horrible for years, but I would hope the Reinsdorfs would be willing to bring someone in to make changes who isn't attached to any of these players. Something big is going to have to happen for the Bulls to really have a championship quality roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:36 AM) This roster should have been WAY better than it was. At some point, the players should answer for this season. It was basically the same roster. It should have been better, but it certainly wasn't good enough to win a title. And problems were exposed. A CSN beat reporter even said they don't like playing with each other. How can he see this and the FO can't? Gar hiring his buddy really did Hoiberg no favors other than to his bank account. He's left looking like a fool.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:12 AM) Yea this is a nice thought. I wish Gar had it when he could have traded Gasol and Snell to the Kings at the Deadline for McLemore and Koufos and a lower draft protection. You know, to get younger and build for the future And break up a championship caliber roster? No way. That could and should be used against him if they are determining whether to keep him around. Personally I think Pax and Gar should go. Way too many mistakes, and even if they are all Gar's doing, Pax was there to put his stamp of approval on them. But at least Gar has to go. Status quo in the front office would show IMO, the Bulls aren't really serious about winning championships. Just being good enough to sell all their tickets. The NBA isn't like the other sports where if you have a good team, you can win a championship. In the NBA there are only 3 or 4 teams a year, if that, that can legitimately win a title. In the playoffs, the best team wins seires a lot more often in the NBA than any other sport.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 29, 2016 -> 09:15 AM) Jobs dont normally let you keep your sick days, so use them how you please My company dumped sick days years ago and just threw them in with the rest of the pool. I guess they saw how people were always getting sick or their kids were getting sick at the beginning of the year when they had the sick days, and were remarkably healthy when their supply of those days ran out.

I can't wait until the first You can put it on the board........yes this season. Hawk is still awesome.