Dick Allen

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 1, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Man I hope his adjustments pay off. If he is still hitting everything to RF, I doubt they will. But it is way too early to come to a conclusion obviously.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 1, 2016 -> 11:15 AM) man that was a great yr for sox baseball, growing up, however the WS yr was great, esp the playoff, that was great. And there were several WS Champs that weren't exactly stellar defenders. Paulie was decent, but no range, Iguchi was average, Pods couldn't throw, Dye was Dye, AJ not so great. As long as the team makes the plays it's supposed to make...I think sabermetrics makes a bit too much out of most defensive upgrades. There are days OFs really don't have to make a play.

The White Sox did a good job upgrading their infield defense during the season in 2015. How did that translate wins-wise? If they can be average, they will be fine if they score runs. One of the most exciting teams in the past 40 years was the 1977 Southside Hitmen. They may have had the one of the worst defensive teams ever assembled.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 11:41 PM) And do they not realize Atlanta can't attract anyone, including Dwight? The 6 titles in 8 years was able to attract Brent Barry, Ron Mercer, and Eddie Robinson.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 07:51 AM) I find it odd they offered 2/$17 mill for Fowler (plus a draft pick) but are supposedly not interested in Jackson (likely a guy who may take a one year deal plus no draft pick). I doubt that we don't have interest. According to Levine they offered more than 2/$17 million for Fowler.

QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) and i still think this draft, esp with the sox projecting to keep their comp pick, will have some surprise players at #27 or 26. i am really excited on the draft side this yr. this draft if deep, if no one gets hurt. There definitely will be someone who will have a great career available.

QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 06:01 PM) i don't know how i missed this .... great work in assembling the list. the thing is, every yr the draft is different, and on top of that, 1 draft may be deeper with prospects players, the other yr not so deep. plus many players are signing there contracts the first time around. well the point is, i see the draft starting to get more overall quality ..... or it could be that this and last yr has me a not observing the talent as much. Every draft is different, but this is over 30 of them and not much luck at 27. The good news is the Sox are now at 26 and it is a little better.

Merkin doesn't think Jackson is in the plans.

I find it hard to believe David Freese is still looking for work with the shortage of 3B in the league. He is not the greatest but has put up over a 2.0 WAR the last couple of years. His price has to be pretty reasonable at this point.

BTW one of the comps for Sale in BP is Sam McDowell. Hawk is happy.

Jackson has put up 5.5 WAR higher in his career than Fowler in about 100 less PA. He is younger. The difference being Fowler gets most of his offensively, Jackson, at least the last couple of seasons, defensively. Eaton said today he will be ready by opening day, but the Sox could use a guy who can play CF. no QO attached. It comes down to price. He obviously wants more than $6 million. He Probably wants more than $12 million at this point. it appears the Sox were willing to go around $10 million a year for Fowler if Bruce's report is accurate. This has to be the play, doesn't it? I guess it will all come down to when Boras feels there is no chance at the money he is looking for.

How many teams have traded prospects this offseason for 3-4 WAR players?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) Except it's a little bit late for that philosophy change after addressing quite a few of the issues on the major league roster...and also not having the position player depth (other than Anderson) to realistically fill those remaining holes over the next two seasons. At that time, we'll have to fill even more holes without buying free agents at the highest prices and/or running into budget limitations. Funny how you were against giving up,draft picks and anything more than 3 year contracts earlier this offseason. Of course that is when everyone assumed Gordon to the White Sox was likely. Wanted to wait until June to sign Desmond. Wanted to give Latos $10-12 million, wanted to give Parra $8 million, even though he hasn't shown he can hit in the AL, and wanted no part of Fowler and the draft pick, pointing out without realizing he has spent a season in the AL, that he would be a good candidate not to be able to adjust.

Unless Curry gets hurt, who is going to beat GS 4 times? This season is ova! The only drama is whether or not they get the record.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) Nice value signing for the Rangers. If Desmond has a good year in 2016, they'll get that pick back in the following year's draft. I'm ok with the Sox passing on this deal, but this makes it even more important to land a guy like Austin Jackson at bare minimum. I see the price tag, I get a little jealous. If he shows he can play the OF with any competence, and you never know, Alex Gordon was an infielder made outfielder that turned to gold, Hanley Ramirez not so much, he is probably a steal. I think it is worth the $8 million and draft pick to find out unless you have something else, which seems like they do. But every passing day makes you wonder. They will get somebody. I just hope they get the guy who is their target now. It may be they have to wait for roster shakedowns and wind up getting a less talented player.

If the Sox could have got him for 1/$8 million, I think that would have been worth the draft pick. So he turns down $107 million. Turns down the $15.8 million QO, and gets $8 million. Yet another player who needs a new agent. I hope his agent is decent enough not to take a commission. Scott Boras got Ian Kennedy $70 million. I think Ian needs his number.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 08:49 AM) Another one bites the dust. Cheap organization, man. Absolutely ridiculous. Go Avi... There are several ways to look at this. Desmond might thrive, but his offense has gone down 3 years in a row. He is changing leagues. He has about 5 weeks to learn the OF. And he would have cost a draft pick for one season. OTOH, his bat is potentially the biggest impact left on the market. I just think he is worth more as a SS than OF. Of course, he could have been nice insurance if Rollins can't play anymore, Saladino can't hit enough to play, and Anderson not being ready. I am all for giving up the pick, but for one year makes it tough. It is no longer a bargain signing. Assuming you are OK at SS, if the Sox need an OF, I would rather they get a guy who has been there. Desmond may be fine, but right now you can't be sure.

Does this move them to 26? There have been some good players picked at 26 including Alan Trammell 40 years ago. this is going to be interesting as Desmond will be a LF. He did go to a good park to put up some numbers.

QUOTE (LDF @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 07:13 AM) and how many failed, by failed, i mean help the sox get to the playoff, how many times the sox had a chance to pick up a viable fa, only to go the reclamation route. how many times did that worked, better yet, help get this team to the playoff. Who should the Sox have signed this offseason, and how much should their limit have been to pay them?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 10:00 PM) LMAO! Yes.LMAO. Your post from last year was dug up for all to see. The whiner got exposed.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) Ah, so you admit that throwing money at second tier free agents such as the contracts given Cabrera and LaRoche were mistakes by Hahn. It appears you are right about that. Hindsight is a beautiful thing. Without it, you like LaRoche, were hoping they would spend even more on Matt Kemp, and thought Abreu, Kemp, LaRoche, and Avi made a nice middle of the line up. Your complaining and constant critiquing is a joke. If they listened to you, the payroll would be higher and the team worse.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 05:25 PM) Rose out again tonight. He will be back when he is feeling 110%. They don't need him. Moore's PER is almost 7.

QUOTE (midway @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) Was Taj Gibson's Father a carpenter? If so it would explain why he catches every entry pass like his hands are made of wood. Just once catch the damn ball cleanly, take the ball strong to the hoop. I'm so sick of watching him bobble the entry pass, take a couple of dribbles then have his shot blocked....wtf!!!! Do you know why the lady had a wooden baby? A carpenter nailed her.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) You mean like the money we spent on LaRoche and Cabrera right now that could have been spent on one of the premium OFs in free agent this offseason? Yes. But you seem OK with repeating it. Why don't you tell us what you would have authorized this offseason if you owned the team Then you will be able to brag about it later. Edit, I saw last year's post when you didn't seem too opposed to LaRoche, and seemed excited about Avi, and Matt Kemp, LMAO.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 27, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) Lol - I didn't say we were cheap. Those are your words, not mine. I'm just pointing out the fallacy of suggestions the Sox are operating under "limited resources" at the moment. They are not, not by a long shot. How much Is available? I agree they have some money to spend but that doesn't mean you spend it all. It has to make sense. Does giving Cespedes $30 million for 2016 and the option to walk away if he is good after one season , or be stuck paying him big money if he is a flop make sense? Does giving Alex Gordon at his age $100 million make sense? How how should they go with Fowler before it makes no sense? Sometimes spending money makes you money. Sometimes spending it foolishly means you won't have it when you need it.