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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 02:03 PM) I must say this is somewhat surprising. Figured it would be a little tighter. My guess is it has a lot to do with the home/away records.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) Judging by what was said in the reality show, it sounds like they have zero confidence in Freddy. They really felt that the Jackson move was as much for Hudson being a question, as it was for Freddy being one. Really? That's very interesting. I have not seen the latest episode yet. I'll have to try and catch it today (one of the 365495037490 times they'll air it).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 09:29 AM) In terms of coming back to bite us though...we spent a ton of money on Vazquez, CF was a killer hole for 3+ years (Dewayne Wise as leadoff) that we gave up other guys trying to fill...and now we spent a ton of money to get the CF slot filled. The Sox also had McCarthy at least available in 2006. You can argue either way, Vazquez was at least decent for the Sox in the 2008 season and he was also traded for a guy or two who could be seriously useful in the future...but you have to at least put that one on the list for the ramifications. But would having Chris Young playing CF for us have gotten us anywhere? While CF was a "killer hole," as you say, what would Young have done to alleviate that in any way?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 10:49 AM) That's what I mean when I keep saying "Prove me wrong, Edwin". Well, give him a chance. He's given us two very good starts thus far. Not sure what else you can ask of the guy. You may hate the trade, but hold Kenny responsible for your displeasure, not Edwin. He didn't trade himself to us for Hudson and Holmberg.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 09:42 AM) Can I add the caveat that if he "wins" 2 games but they're both like 14-9 wins with Jackson finishing with an ERA around 7, I still get to complain? You're going to complain regardless. You've got every right to. I worry about future financial implications as well, but I don't understand how one can make a judgment either way until we see what Jackson does in our uniform. What if he is crucial in the chase for the division title? What if he wins huge starts where we are facing elimination games in a postseason series? I just don't think you can really comment on the value of Jackson to us in this particular case because of what that value would potentially be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 10:32 AM) Is there any doubt about this? I'm just concerned because of Ozzie's relationship with Freddy and possibly a level of overconfidence in his friend.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) shack, if Jackson wins 2 postseason games for us this season...yes, then it's worth it. That guarantees us at least an ALCS run (he wouldn't be likely to get 2 wins in a 5 game series and have the team lose). I'd call that a fair return on Hudson. Interesting.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 09:24 AM) GUARANTEED V!!!!!! Whenever I see this, I always hear it as Jason Stackhouse saying it. This should be one of the best games of the year thus far. White Sox are a very slight Vegas favorite.

What about postseason wins? I'm not certain what a postseason rotation would be for us, but I would hope Kenny and Ozzie would have the stones to make Edwin a #4 and put Freddy in the bullpen. Not sure if this will happen, my guess is it will be sort of a controversy should we get to that point, but as they say, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. But for arguments sake, would 2 postseason victories by Jackson make the trade more tolerable? Three? I don't know that anyone is ever going to convince Balta or Qwerty or some of the other number crunchers we have here that this trade worked out for the White Sox in the end, but if that is the case, where have those posters been on Freddy? As far as I'm concerned Balta should be proclaiming to everyone who will listen that Freddy is Kenny's shining moment this year...and yet all I see is how devastatingly awful trading Hudson away was. But should we win a playoff series and Edwin pitches well in the postseason, was the trade worth it then? What about two playoff series? What about a World Series victory? How are postseason victories by a pitcher, or World Series titles earned with the help of a guy like Jackson, factored into this discussion?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:18 PM) This Sox team is the best he's ever managed? WHAT? I'll take the 2006 roster over this one in a heartbeat. This is the team he chose. What do you expect him to say...

Well that stunk. This is all I got.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) And, of course, if we let the Twins get ahead of us by a game or two, they can't block Manny. That must be our strategy! Honestly, I feel like we absolutely must get Manny now.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 07:45 PM) It's what we do. We're perpetually taking on these reclamation projects or former great players that are multiple years past their prime hoping they can find that fountain of youth. That's why I want Ozzie and KW gone. Will never win consistently with these two and nobody can convince me otherwise. Well, then stop trying to make it a point of discussion.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 01:54 AM) "You've got to win" doesn't make sense in baseball. Too many games. Too much s*** happens. It ain't like the Bears wetting the bed in an 18 game season or whatever they play in the NFL. s*** happens in baseball. We are a mediocre to decent team. We don't win all the games "we're supposed to win." There are no, "you've got to win" games this season regarding the Chicago White Sox. The team is what it is. A nice little team, nothing more, nothing too much less. Are you really surprised Baltimore on its home field is giving our team fits? I'm not. I couldn't disagree with you more. In fact, I don't know that I have ever disagreed with a series of posts more so than these that you've been posting over the course of the last week. If I wanted to cheer on a team this way, I would wear a royal blue cap with a red "C" on it.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 11:17 PM) They probably got scared of his terrible 2009 numbers. Oh for sure, but you can't let one season's worth of poor numbers scare you off of fairly young talent...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) A lot of teams missed out on Kelly Johnson. I don't know how. The guy has a very good eye, has some pop for a MI, and can steal 15-20 SBs and he gets signed for only $2+ million. I don't know how this guy wasn't an option for more teams. I was clamoring for Kenny to sign him.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 07:13 PM) I'm sure this would be the hard way, but... If you're a math major or some really math-related major and knows a thing or two about statistics - look into baseball statistical analysis. Start a blog, do some really good, ground-breaking research. Get noticed, you'll get hired by a team. I was talking about this with qwerty, he told me there's 20 or so people getting picked up from the blogosphere by MLB teams. It's a shot in the dark in a lot of ways, but if you have the background, you can give it a try. Yeah, it is...I was talking with Voros McCracken about 4 months ago and he was looking for work...so it can definitely be tough.

Rays lose 5th in a row, so we stay 4 back....have to have a good week this week for many reasons.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 05:38 PM) This isn't the exact same thread as yesterday, if you're referring to my other post-loss thread. My other thread was referring to overreacting after 1 road loss This thread is referring to the general tone of the board You remember how I said Friday's loss was unacceptable? This is why. Not because that loss killed us Friday, but because it killed us today. You've got to win the extremely favorable matchups when you have them, because you're going to lose games like this today. We win that game Friday night, today's loss still hurts, but not like it is right now.

4 games back of the wild card leader, Tampa

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 11:58 PM) Chael gets caught with 2 minutes left because he got lazy. He had Silva for the whole damn fight and fell asleep My co-worker wrestled with Chael at Oregon. He was so excited...and now so disappointed. He basically told me this would happen though.

Ok, so I seem to remember Jenks throwing a wild pitch to let the tying or winning run score...but we went to 2 games and this was the second of the two. I have a really bad memory apparently.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 07:54 PM) Actually Jenks blew one on Sunday July 30, 2006 in Baltimore when we were about to sweep the Orioles. Gave up two in the bottom of the ninth in an 8-7 loss. One more hit and Jenks can have the ninth. Yeah, I am seeing that one too. Maybe I am confusing the game I was at and another one that Jenks irreparably demaged me with later. I just remember drinking all day in some bar called The Pickle or something and then going to the game pretty buzzed. Somehow I managed to get Scott Podsednik to chat with me a bit by the dugout before the game.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) i think that 2007 game was a Sunday game in Baltimore. Wonder how bobby handles it if he doesn't get the call. Time to show what kind of teammate he is. It was a Sunday. I swore it was a night game I was at. Maybe I am getting my year's screwed up...maybe I was there in 2008. Oops, I am trying to do too many things at once.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 07:46 PM) If the Sox are in town let me know. I love seeing the Sox play there. The only reason I'm not there right now is cuz my wife had planned a bunch of other s*** (she's not too good at listening) Will do. A few of us should schedule a trip next year during our interleague schedule to meet up for a weekend series.