Texsox

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 15, 2007 -> 07:59 AM) Historically, I don't think there will ever be a real change. There always seems to be a divide between the groups that are socially OK to look down on, and those that are protected. I don't see that changing. It hasn't for millenniums and in all societies. The groups change, but there is always another group to take their place. I just thought of this, we are arguably the greatest mix ever assembled on this planet. Perhaps it is amazing it has worked this well. (OK, the native Americans may disagree).

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 14, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) His (lack of) substance at this point is by design. He will start to veer hard left before the primary and turn back if it looks like he has a chance to win the nomination. I think he has a huge challenge and it will be interesting as this plays out, but I just wish it was 9 months from now, and not now, if that makes sense. By hard left, do you mean to the middle? (He already is right of center) Part II I agree with Kap that Bush tried to do the right thing. I really think he allowed his morality and integrity to guide decisions. I see a lot of parallels with Carter. I also believe that while 9/11 was his brightest moment, it also was the beginning of a long terrible slide. And perhaps any other human would have also slid. Perhaps at that moment he realized that while he was the most powerful person on the planet, he was also just one person and the world is a large and dangerous place, that he would not be able to control. I just went back and read Kap's full post and noticed it was a Clinton v. Bush on personal morality and I have to back Kap even more. I do believe that with Clinton the prosoner abuse issue would have been settled along a much different path. But if I had to leave my kids with Dubya or Slick Willy for a week, I'd rather they be with Dubya.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ May 14, 2007 -> 09:21 PM) You should be fine if you have any visible facial hair. So his girlfriend can get in, can he?* I kid because, I thought that was funny. Maybe I care ™

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 15, 2007 -> 07:00 AM) Which is fine. What isn't fine is foreign governments using us as a dumping ground for their unwanted citizens (ie namely poor and problematic) and then using our burgeoning social programs as a rallying cry against our country for propaganda purposes. I would be a supporter of a no immigration without jobs or non governmental support for the newly immigrated policy.

I hasn't considered that possibility before, of programming new stereotypes. I agree that appearance does come into the hiring process. So are you suggesting we need to have more, less, or the same diligence when issues like this come up, (when student groups do stuff like this)? I am wondering, from a practical standpoint, that there has to a critical mass of negative events before we start acting.

What consumer habit protests aren't stupid?

All good comments Mike, but I wonder if we aren't missing something in that definition. I think there needs some actual damages, some opportunity denied, access, promotions, perhaps violence against, and that body of human misdeeds before elevating. By comparing the histories of blacks, Hispanics, and blonds in this country, there are some stark contrasts. Maybe that is why we are less sensitive to blond or pollack jokes and more sensitive to black and Hispanic issues?

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 14, 2007 -> 04:17 PM) If he raises whenever the price goes up, but lowers only when he refills his tanks and the price goes down, he would make a very hefty profit by the end of the year. When the station owners cry poor, not sure I believe them. He lowers it when the station across the street does. My mom is in the wholesale gas business, Kap is accurate.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 14, 2007 -> 09:45 PM) Thank you, sir, I do appreciate it. I think this is the best way to do it so we don't pollute Nuke's thread. I do wish he'd stop by and share what guys serving feel when they see their former Generals disagreeing with the Commander in Chief. BTW, from what I've seen votevets has been fairly moderate.

I'm stuck on the color chart thing. I can't see even something to click on for a wrong answer.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 14, 2007 -> 01:11 PM) Ok, so let me see... this is a thread to and for Nuke (and not a catch all thread, like you called it) so we can ask him questions and he can respond - and you're posting a political advertisement in here? C'mon. You can move it. No problem, I'll start a new thread. What I ment was I was looking for a catch all Iraq thread, this one was the only one going.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 14, 2007 -> 11:41 AM) There's only a million of them you dork. A catch-all, miscellaneous kind of place, it seemed too minor to start a thread. takes one to know one

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ May 14, 2007 -> 11:59 AM) avalon.tomthefool.com it worked for me. I am getting married in 5 weeks. SC for the honeymoon (as if that mattered). We've got a house in the woods. I'm a manager at a bank. good times really. you? Divorce, beach house this summer with 300 of my favorite kids, college in the fall, life happens. Glad to hear the swoon MrsPA4Life hasn't changed her mind

Brain fart on the dam horse.

You tease Update, what's happening PA?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 14, 2007 -> 09:13 AM) ^^^^ Tex, I'll leave this here, but I question whether it should be in this thread. I was wondering where to put it. Do we have another Iraq war thread started? I didn't like it here either.

Dear VoteVets.org Supporter, Today, we are launching our second of three "Generals" ads. Last week, you made our historic ad featuring retired Major General John Batiste a smashing success. From when it launched on Wednesday, through the weekend, it was the talk of the news and discussion shows, and even featured in a Sunday New York Times story! Today, retired Major General Paul Eaton debuts in an ad, again taking on the false notion that the President listens to his commanders on the ground. See the ad here | Donate here Like General Batiste, General Eaton should know whether the President really listens to his commanders on the ground, or not. General Eaton recently retired from the US Army after more than 33 years service. His most recent operational assignment was Commanding General of the command charged with reestablishing Iraqi Security Forces from 2003-2004, where he built the command and established the structure and infrastructure for the Iraqi Armed Forces. Last week, President Bush kept maintaining that he bases his decisions on the war based on what he hears from commanders. Yet, for the second time in as many weeks, one of those commanders has decided to speak out and say it isn't so. The media is finally beginning to catch on - the President is not telling the truth. As General Eaton says in the ad, the President is being told we need more diplomacy in Iraq, not escalation - and the President is still not listening. We're taking that message into the states and districts of Senators Susan Collins and John Warner and Representatives Mary Bono, Mike Castle, Phil English, Jo Ann Emerson, Tim Johnson (IL), and Heather Wilson, Donate to keep these ads going here Do not doubt for a second that you are making a difference. Right after our ads began airing, four Congressional targets of the ads went to the White House as part of the "Gang of Eleven," who told the President that they are prepared to break with his failed strategy and start supporting the troops. With more pressure, even more Senators and Congressmen will do the same. Tomorrow, we're going to announce something that will rock the political world. I can't tell you what that is, yet, but check your email tomorrow morning to find out the bold move we're going to make with the help of your generous donations. It's going to be big. Thank you for all of your help in the last week. You are changing the very nature of this debate. Keep it going! Help VoteVets.org now! Thank you for supporting the Voice of America's 21st Century Patriots! Sincerely, Jon Soltz Iraq War Veteran Chairman and Co-Founder, VoteVets.org

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 13, 2007 -> 11:00 PM) Maximize his value. Why is it that everyone here understand when a Player has reached his maximized value, yet the professional GMs never see it and never see to pay for it?

QUOTE(BobDylan @ May 13, 2007 -> 08:57 PM) I wonder if they hire based on one's understanding of the differences between their, there, and they're. If so, you got no chance. QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:39 PM) And than and then. You too are two much. Go two you're rooms. Write Know!!

I believe the word we should be suing is commercial property?

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ May 13, 2007 -> 09:26 PM) After just coming back from San Francisco, there is something disturbing about hearing the words "Castro" and "artificial anus" together. bastard QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 13, 2007 -> 10:10 PM) Because they want to come to America to have our (socialist) government take care of them. puke. And we welcome Cubans with open arms. Just wondering about other areas, how many retail shops, dry cleaners, etc. are owned by immigrants where you live? While it is easy to take a shot at immigrants just wanting to sponge off the taxpayers, I see a lot working their asses off starting businesses here.

How about a reason that conservatives should appreciate? This is an official student group, and I believe is the key difference. This official student group agrees as part of it's recognition, to certain standards of behavior. In exchange, the University benefits because part of a great college experience are many of these groups. When these groups behave in this way, it alienates customers for the University. What business would have sponsored and tolerated this? It's just good business for the University to take appropriate actions. BTW, great post SS. There is a long way to go.

There is a lot to be said for Trade, not Aid. Plus, we start putting a McDonalds on every corner, and Castro starts liking that McMuffin in the morning and a Big Mac in the afternoon, biggie sized of course, and he's finally gone from there.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ May 13, 2007 -> 04:52 PM) I agree with Nuke on this. The liberal media takes anything that happens that could possibly be against a certain group of people and makes it a huge s***storm. Its to the point where certain groups are given special protection from any criticism towards them but when something happens toward the so-called "majority" (which in reality is now becoming the minority), nothing is done. IMO its bulls*** and the liberal media is to blame for a lot of the crap news stories that now come out that claim "discrimination" is going on. So wearing a s*** -n- Span t-shirt with Hispanic names, was criticism? What did the Hispanic community do that required this criticism?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 13, 2007 -> 12:25 PM) You're the best...sometimes. Thank you, don't forget to tip the administrators.