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I was involved in a project down here regarding child care for working families. The myriad of different programs and paperwork was daunting and impossible for me to follow. You lose one set of eligibility when your income raises, but other programs kick in. I can't understand how someone with a 6th grade education and limited reading skills could ever get it right. Then when a company does step in and help its workers to qualify and receive all the benefits that we try and provide the working poor, they are called villains.

So no one mentioned leading GOP environmentalist. Al Gore Exxon BTW, anyone find any stats that his home, uses more energy than others of that size? Anyone find any stats on comparing his home to the average Americans who have two home offices in it? I love how some people like to compare the "Average American" and their usage to someone living in a larger home with two offices. And I thought the GOP was about rewarding people who have made a success of themselves.

Take it out to sea and dump it.

I wonder to prove their retardation how many times they posted here?

This morning I received a visit from some friends here in Texas. Al Gore is wrong. Long Live OIL!! In Exxon we Trust! Al Gore Exxon There is nothing we can do to hurt the environment. The environment is a tool used by liberals to win votes. Al Gore and this liberal hypocrisy must be stopped at all costs. Oil!! Coal!! And Al Sharpton is the biggest liberal hypocrite. His family was so tight with Thurgood Marshall's they were even living together.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 10:40 PM) Yesterday I met and had lunch with my first real live, honest-to-goodness billionaire. She was really a quite nice, understated, and down to earth person. Did you mention you have a single friend? BTW, last night two of my Scouts passed their Eagle Scout boards of review. YThey both just turned 18 and I've known the one boy since he was 7 or 8 and the other since he was 11. Both really cool kids. One wants to join the Air Force after attending A&M University and the Corp of Cadets and the other will be studying Marketing and UT San Antonio.

Tex's broken record The guy making minimum wage says he'd never leave a companyn that would pay him $20,000. The guy making $20,000 believes he'd be happy with $40,000 and never leave The guy making $100,000 says he'd never leave and so on and so on.

So who is the great Republican conservation hero? I'm more concerned about the environment than politics, so tell me what Republican is an environmental champion so we can agree.

Money, get away. Get a good job with good pay and youre okay. Money, its a gas. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash. New car, caviar, four star daydream, Think Ill buy me a football team. Money, get back. Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack. Money, its a hit. Dont give me that do goody good bulls***. Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set And I think I need a lear jet. Money, its a crime. Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie. Money, so they say Is the root of all evil today. But if you ask for a raise its no surprise that theyre Giving none away.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) Have you ate at Taco Bell lately? I know I haven't. Let me know where you ate and got sick so I can stay away.

Thank God, Chicago fans want totally biased coverage.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) Here's a dumb question. If he's paying to use renewable resources to power his house, does that make him less of a hypocrite? Only if he's doing 100% kind of like a retirement planner can only recommend doing up to what he is doing, or a Doctor can only recommend as much exercise as he is doing. It's wrong. If a Doctor isn't exercising regularly he can't tell his patients to exercise, that would be wrong and he's a hypocrite.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 26, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) Let me ask you. Have you ever been to a soccer game with 90,000 people in the stadium, chanting and singing, with fireworks and flares going off? But I'm not going to go further with this, just stating my opinion. I don't want to be called an elitist or anything. Then having the official make a call against the home team and soon 16 people are dead? That's a home field advantage you don't get in other sports, the possibility of hooligans taking over! I have to agree soccer is it, with basketball a close second.

I think it is time to create a "best of the best" in the hall. Let's provide some distance from Hammerin Hank, Mantel, Ruth and guys like Schmidt, Carter, etc.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 11:48 AM) If you preach that violence is bad and then go out and beat the crap out of someone, your message obviously is still good but your credibility in giving that message should take a hit. Gore is a hypocrite. That doesn't mean his mission is a joke or that his message isn't important. But his credibility should be questioned when he doesn't practice what he preaches (even if he does take SOME steps that others don't). And he might not even be that big of a hypocrite. But I find it laughable there are hard-core environmentalists here who gloss over the fact that this guys house uses more energy in a month than the average Americans home does in a year. On top of the caravan of cars he travels with, the private jet, the vacation homes, etc…. Here's where I don't understand some of these points raised If you preach the Bible then abuse children If you preach against violence, then beat the crap out of someone. How about if you preach saving ten percent for retirement but only save 8% How about if you preach working out four days a week and only make 3? Are you a hypocrite? Every week I take a pledge that begins On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty to God and my Country. If I don't do my absolute best all the time I am a hypocrite. That is quite the high pedestal some of you are raising. I hope you can meet those standards for yourself.

Nukes new co-worker

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7022601265.html Admites to fakes, started when her "grunts from pain" mared the performance.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 11:20 AM) Al Gore. I'm done. It's sad when great ideas get discredited or bad ideas get credited based on who says them. But I guess that is our society, get the best spokes models and you have a winner. Style over sustenance.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 11:07 AM) Of course I have to be dumb. Thanks for the namecalling. There is no point in talking to you guys about this. Playing dumb, you aren't dumb, but bringing pedophiles and cults in isn't your usual logical argument.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 10:27 AM) The messages are the same from both groups. I know what is best for you, and you should live your life this way. The actions of both groups are the same as well... Do as I say, not as I do. Why are they treated so differently? I know no one will get what I am talking about, and I didn't expect anyone would. Its different, its always different. Al Gore is much like a coach. Here is the goal, here is perfection, all of us should be trying to reach this goal. Again, should you follow Al Gore's message or his example? I'm not suggesting he's the very best spokesperson, he's a Dem and the GOP must reject him as should big oil. But some scientist that no one has heard of would not have the same forum to get the message out. Which is better for our environment, a less than perfect spokesperson on a huge stage or a perfect spokesperson on a tiny stage? QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 10:47 AM) That's exactly what I mean! Why can't I question Al Gore? Why is he all of the sudden some kind of untouchable demi-god??? Why do I have to attend his lecure circuit and pay to see his movie to have some sort of crediblity to ask some questions???? Is reading his speeches on line enough? Is see the experpts of his speeches on CNBC enough? Is watching his appearences on the TV news magazines enough? Is hearing eight years of his speeches as VP enough? Come to think of it why is my credibility on trial, when the whole point back at the beginning was that I wasn't supposed to be questioning Gore's credibility in the first place?!?!?!? That kind of circular logic is EXACTLY what I am talking about when I say it feels like a cult when you question anything to do with the enviornment. Of course, questioning Al Gore is better than questioning his message on the environment. Because it is far more important to try and discredit the messenger than to fix the environment. Who would you rather have as a golf coach? A PGA Champion or the Coach that built his swing? Would you tell Butch Harmon he is a hypocrite because he doesn't play as well as Tiger? Cooper is a hypocrite but Buerhle isn't? Embrace sin because a clergy member did? I am beginning to believe you are just playing dumb. You can't wake someone pretending to be asleep.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:57 AM) I know Appalachia very well. It's where my dad is from. Guess what? He did what he could to escape it. Oh by the way, I would make the argument that Indiana suffers from some of those same economic hardships, at least where my parents are. Unemployment runs rampant, jobs are scarce, etc. I left because I saw it coming 15 years ago. That's what an education did for me. So, how do we educate folks to further themselves to make a difference? And he didn't need to be moved into a group home. One of the universal thoughts in goal setting, and "getting out or getting off" should be a goal in these cases, is the goal must be realistic. Borrowing from one source I see repeated over and over again, the goal should be: S = Specific M = Measurable A = Attainable R = Realistic T = Timely

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:58 AM) Having seen the movie and read some of his stuff, I would say its less judging and more promoting. Seriously, have you seen the movie? Its not fear-mongering, or ordering people to do things. Its quite literally (at the end) a list of things you CAN do to reduce your footprint. Why on earth is this being made out as evil? Duh, because Al is a Democrat same way some Dems would reject a GOP leader. It's the new America.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:29 AM) I know that this is a little "disjointed" but in some areas, this was a good discussion. Except Tex and his "F the GOP" ... Just kidding. Anyway, where I get a little ruffled is when I have these people telling me everything I do is "bad" for the environment, and yet, they do the same things and even on a much larger scale. What I choose to do is different then me standing up on stages all over the world telling people what they shouldn't be doing. It would be great if every messenger was Gandhi, Reagan*, God, or Mother Theresa. But, that isn't and will never be the case. My points are threefold. 1. We all need to do just a little bit and we make a huge impact. We're not going to get Bill Gates to live in a yurt and ride a bicycle to work. Take your existing life style and help a little. That's realistic and doable. Not doing anything because Al Gore uses more, is silly and hurts us all. Be proud that you are further towards a greener lifestyle than Al, don't try to use as much as him. 2. Don't reject the message because the messenger isn't 100% in line or agree with a message because someone appears to be. Just because someone is a vegan, living in a debris hut, and eating berries doesn't make their environmental message scientifically valid. 3. Rotary has a four step decision tree that makes a lot of sense to me: Is it the Truth? Is it Fair to All Concerned? Will it Build Good Will and Better Friendships? Will it Be Beneficial to All Concerned? *just for Kap as an I'm sorry. QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:30 AM) Who exactly has said anything close to that? It was in the Dem thread, and he knows.

I've worked with a number of kids through Scouting that have been diagnosed and managed in a variety of ways. All successful to different degrees. The simplest one basically drinks coffee and it helps him for hours. Not Decaf, the real stuff. The stronger the better for this 12-year old connoisseur of the grounds. Two other that come to mind were medicated and it really helped them both. If it does get to this point, please, don't give them a med vacation when they are in someone else's care.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 08:51 AM) You know why? Because Al Gore himself HAS been called the moral authority on this subject for years now by the likes of many even on this board. We then proceed to hear about how wrong we are, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. and then he flies his private jets all over the world as well as having a home that contributes to emitting more greenhouse gases then most of us will ever emit from our own homes, "green house" or not. Then, we get the defense that he is purchasing "carbon credits" ... again, comparable to "buying (his) way into heaven" if you take the hyperbole. It's ridiculous. So f*** the environment because AL Gore does? I love the GOP