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Good post Chaos I would be surprised if anyone on planet earth thought he could throw two strikes in that situation. Then get the next guy out. I think we watched the end of a promising career as a closer. :headshake

Not cheap. Many workers will now be paid overtime for their services. I happen to agree that a National Day of Mourning is appropriate. Reagan served this country with honor. He was a very popular President, as Mondale can attest to.

no, but many come from abortions, which is why the GOP has a problem in allowing the research.

I thought we were talking about recent immigrants. There has been an explosion of Asian immigration when the Japanese economy cooled down. Some of the differences in the immigrants is largly economic. To immigrate from Japan, China, Korea, France, Spain, or Australia (and others) requires a large outlay of cash for travel, moving furniture, etc. A common laboror from these countries cannot afford the luxery. To immigrate from Mexico, South America, or Canada one can drive, or even walk. We see more lower skilled immigrants from these countries and they possibly tarnish our view of the better educated, better skilled immigrants from Mexico, South America and Canada. Nuke, do you believe if an Iraqi, a Mexican, and a Japenese person all applied for the same job, with the same qualifications, they would have an equal chance to be hired? We hear about Hispanics coming in and taking our jobs, yet you just pointed out other immigrants are filing the higher paying jobs. Why no backlash? Why no editorials?

58 Senators Seek Looser Stem-Cell Rules Nancy Reagan and many democrates have been for research, the GOP, based on Pro-Life and religious beliefs, have blocked it.

I believe once Koch is removed from the roll, his career as a closer is over. I do not see him regaining the confidence and intimidation, to be a closer again. I am certain that is why Ozzie has been slow in making a switch.

Even God cannot help him if he takes a loss tonight.

I should have added, if you have a flag that is fixed to the staff, you may continue to display it, even if the nation is in mourning. It would be appropriate to add some black bunting to the staff.

General Draft Thoughts: Odds are someone else just drafted our next star. Examples are Maggs, Uribe, E-Lo, etc. Only a couple of these guys will ever play in the big league. I'm old, to me these guys are trade bait in a couple years for someone who can help immediately. I've watched too many "can't miss" prospets - miss. I believe Rauch should be a perennial All-Star and twenty game winner beginning this season. And even when we home grow some talent, we may lose them to free agency just when they are hitting their peak. Finally, I use to follow the draft closely, pre- Curt Flood era. Free agency has taken away the importance of the draft as a team development tool.

Sounds like a great pick. I've just stopped being excited about draft picks. Only a couple of these guys will ever play in the big leagues and maybe one will play for the Sox. Odds are someone else drafted our next big star (Maggs, E-Lo, etc.)

:headshake We've suspended people before for the same b.s. Chill out and quick attacking other posters.

It isn't only the Asians but most first and second generation Americans that do better than the curve. Nuke also highlights one bit of self fullfilling prophecy here. Two peopel talked about the hard working Asians, good families, etc. Employers are more willing to hire Asians than blacks and hispanics. So more Asians get better jobs, Blacks and hispanics get discouraged. I don't know how to change that perception. The hardest working immigrants I know are hispanic migrant workers. Entire families toil for 14 hour days in the fields picking crops for months on end. Poor living conditions and are subjected to all sorts of scams and abuse.

I guess you are believing this is the major flaw in our constitution and form of government. Judges are our defense against the legistlative branch inacting laws that are unconstitutional. If not the Juducial branch, then who? We all remember the beauty of our form of government is the checks and balances. The courts are our balance. Just because a Judge rules a law as unconstitutional, doesn't mean the legislature cannot pass another law that would fit within our constitution. Judges cannot pass new laws.

Who they can and cannot marry? Does that also include ages? I assume you are supporting the DEM position that anyone can get married. Or are you supporting the REP that government can tell you who you cannot marry? You wouldn't mind returning to the days of whites only signs on properties? You wouldn't mind seeing No n***** signs on help wanted posters? :headshake I cannot even fathom returning to those days. White's only schools? Tell me I'm misreading what you wrote and that property owners and employers cannot discriminate on sex, race, religion? What do you mean? State vs. Federal taxes? Fine pay whomever. I just do not see a difference if I pay a local, county, state, or federal tax. It's all money out of my pocket. I guess the more local the better chance we have of some influence in how it is spent. DDT is easy. Oregon money in Iowa? It would be impossible, and damaging, for the federal government to balance income and exenses into each state. I'm imagining a Senatopr saying "Sorry we cannot open that military base unless we raise taxes in that state." Some states receive more government spending than they send in because of their strategic location. Naval bases on the coasts instead of Iowa would be one example. Are the unions the problem because they fight for higher wages? Are you saying if we didn't have unions, wages would be on par with China and Mexico, and we would still have those jobs? I'm not a big union fan, but wonder exactly what their roll is in losing jobs to China. CW told a tale where a local union offered over $3,000,000 in concessions and the company still moved to Mexico for $3.5 milion in savings. Roads? again we have the how to balance funding between the states. Are you stating that no state should receive more federal government dollars than they pay in? Wouldn't we have to relocate research facilities, military bases, nuclear waste facilities, prisons, and other sites to balance spending? Income tax isn't earmarked for roads, flood/disaster relief (which actually is a form of insurance). We have a Federal Constitution and a Federal Bill of Rights. Local governments cannot make laws that go against those federal laws. If you don't like our Constitution you are free to campaign to have it changed. If you cannot get it changed than the choice is to live in the US or move. As far as economics. One of the big reasons I've begun supporting some democratic candidates is economics. During the Reagan years, we spent, spent, spent, and we wound up with a $2.7 Trillion dollar deficit. Republicans keep claiming they can keep spending and cut taxes. Eventually we all have to pay the piper. We saw the economic collapse of the USSR. Let's not go down that path. We are fighting a very expensive war. After this gets finsihed we will continue to be fighting a war against terrorists. As Nuke has done a great job of explaining, we will need to continue to build our arm services so we are not relying on reserve Troops as much. Is Bush talking about any tax increase to pay for it? Is he talking about cutting other progams to pay for it? I prefer a politician that has the guts to make us pay for what we get.

And he cannot even throw a BP fastball. With a 3 ball count, bases loaded, tie game, bottom of the 9th, he had to throw a strike, let they guy hit it and hope for the best. Anything out of the strike zone is a loser. Koch is not the worst closer in baseball. On a middle of the pack team, he would fit right in. We need a WS contender closer, and he isn't it, and based on the past 18 months, will not be it. Maybe someone could start a decline of Koch thread and he will rebound, but I doubt it.

Looking at his stats, there are a few teams that would like him, but not at what we're paying him. Set up guy in the 5-6-7 inning. Occassional mop up in blow outs, I believe Nuke had a great idea, cleaning jock straps and/or ironing uniforms Such a shame. For one season he was such a stud.

I'm not certain how many but I do know I've seen this combo too often to count Billy Botch :fyou As a matter fo fact, I call this the botch smiley :fyou

I'm wondering if Minnesota offered to pick up some of his salary if the Sox kept him.

I love Abraham, Martin, and John. The other two :puke after I turned 10. In the Ghetto may be the crowning achievement in Elvis' career. Of all the crap songs he did, that may be the crappiest.

I think he should be booed as soon as an opposing batter reaches base. I'll stay quiet until then. Who's to blame that we still have Botch? We knew last season he was finished.

You certainly have heard your share of terrible songs. What was the worst, for you, format you've worked?

I am so relieved he wants to get back out there. I was worried he'd want to quit or something silly like that.

Sounds like Koch is a Sox fan

Oops, it took 1.5 minutes for someone to find two songs that didn't suck.