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I think anger didn't last long, now I'm looking at bargaining.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:44 AM) I doubt he ever manages in the MLB again. I agree, but I base that more on his choice than no one else willing to give him a chance.

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QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:22 AM) I think we're done micro-analyzing what is and what is not Ventura's fault. He's done either now or on October 2nd. If any of the 29 other teams want to tap into the brilliant baseball mind of Robin Ventura, they're going to have that chance. I wouldn't be shocked if he receives an offer from a team. But I would be more surprised if he doesn't just retire as a footnote in Sox managerial history.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Chicago blood! Springfield looks like ass.

I believe the demand here is to put an even crappier product on the field at the cell for a couple seasons as long as they are winning down on the farm? Let's talk reality.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 09:55 PM) To me it's a simple concept and really I'm amazed some folks just don't get it. The Sox are no different from a restaurant or the hardware store or the local cleaners. They are ALL businesses first and foremost. If they put out a poor product, customers will not do business with them. They are under absolutely no obligation to do so. Would you keep going back to that restaurant if they keep getting your order wrong for example and the food is bad? Now add in a taxpayer funded ballpark, perhaps the biggest "sweetheart lease" in baseball and millions of dollars in income and to me, customers who support bad baseball (or a bad steak or a bad hammer or a dirty shirt) well...they are the ones who I think should be rethinking the situation. To each his own I guess. Mark Mark, you are an intelligent guy, please follow my point here and see what you think. You bring up a great point and one that perpetually follows Sox baseball. While your point is that simple, it is also more complex. Let's look at restaurants. Is your favorite restaurant a Michelin three star rated place? There are thirteen in all of the United States, more than World Series winning baseball teams, about the same as playoff teams in baseball. By baseball standards all of the other restaurants are not worthy of visiting because they are not winning. Their product is not very good compared to these thirteen. There are two Michelin three star restaurants in Chicago. If you go to any other restaurant you are supporting mediocrity or worst. So what can a restaurant do to earn your business that isn't winning? Provide a great atmosphere, great service, be a good fit for your entertainment dollar. Family friendly if you need that. They need to provide a quality experience for the time and money you invest. It would then follow that the Sox need to make certain they have set the table for a quality experience. They know that both teams will play some of the highest level baseball on the planet. (After all it is the MLB, name a better league anywhere). The home team may not win. But if your favorite actor is in a movie, do you care if the movie wins an Academy award of not? For the out of town Sox fans here, it seems like everyone gets to a game when they are in town, no matter how the team is doing. I'm catching a Sunday game against Detroit. Why? Because of the experience. Seeing the stadium and everything that surrounds a MLB baseball game. If fans judge the quality of the experience strictly on the outcome, they will eventually always be unhappy and most years will never attend a game. Of course we are talking about the casual fan, not the diehards here who will generally buy tickets. So no, sports teams don't function exactly like a restaurant, dry cleaners, etc. All of those other examples can earn your loyalty without being one of the top four or five in world. Sports teams also need to beat every other competitor on top of doing everything else great.

He should get a pass for last night. That loss clearly is on the front office and the 5th starter they acquired. No manager was going to pull that one out of the loss pile.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 01:53 AM) Today, James Shields can become the second starter in #MLB history to allow at least 7 R in 5 IP or less in four straight starts. #whitesox I believe that unlike when they shielded Dunn from baseball immortality, Jimbo will have every opportunity to make baseball history in Boston on Thursday. Buy your tickets to the only homerun derby that will count in the standings. This guy really passed a medical? That's what blows my mind. Or he is pitching like he left something turned on at home and needs to get back in a hurry. This may turn out to be the worst trade in Sox history. To be fair until their is a diagnosis of what is going wrong it is difficult to see who this should be fully pinned on. Certainly everyone takes some of the blame, but Shields is suddenly infinitely worst than in the weeks before the trade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) Look at some of the recent winners around baseball (even tonight). Junior Guerra was in our system and let go. Anyone could have had Dustin McGowan. Feldman with the Astros. Yovanni Gallardo. Lincecum. Edinson Volquez. Colby Lewis. The only pitcher that might have been a WORSE decision than Shields was arguably Ubaldo Jimenez. Even the O's announcers really detest him. I love it when people are posting so much that they forget what thread they are in.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 06:38 PM) Not sure which is the bigger head scratcher, the trade for Shields or the horrible 4 game stretch Shields is having. And I thought Javy Vazquez was perplexing. The horrible stretch for me.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing just pointing out that the NRA represents a lot of American citizens. I cancelled my membership because I didn't agree with their lobbying efforts, but I have plenty of friends who still maintain their memberships and some even toss in some extra. There is a face to the NRA that if you are going to wage a battle needs to be seen.

Billy Botch as closer?

Please keep in mind that the NRA are citizens that collectively lobby for what they believe in through their national organization. I respect that as well as Churches, environmental groups, PTAs, etc.

So many of those transactions are routine. It is only when s*** hits the fan that they look obvious.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 06:55 AM) http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/6/17/1196...-of-fame-plaque Jose Quintana's future HOF plaque. This is one of the five funniest things I've seen all year, at least White Sox-related. Great job!!! That is so not funny I always tend to reflect on this when I think about a pitcher's won-lose record. I believe it was last season that Buehrle was given 6+ runs over 9 innings. He always seemed to get great run support. I can't believe it is always the players. I believe some is the pitcher. But this is probably one of those the pitcher can only help and probably not hurt situation.

I can respect that.

There will be a steady trickle of stuff. The ISIS stuff seems like crap, just a poser trying to be a part of something bigger.

Aren't catchers about the slowest to develop? If he stays behind the plate we might not see him until the next decade.

I'm finally getting a chance to read all the coverage. Awesome stuff.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) It turns out tee times are very hard to come by on father's Day morning, go figure. The courses I use for my golf team all have Father's Day specials. They packages rounds with food and stuff. Trying to maximize the tickets coming through.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) After seeing this fan base for decades, the narrative changes almost annually. So yes, I have seen tons of excuses. It is kind of amazing that the team isn't in Florida. And the Cubs would become the biggest draw in baseball.

Flashing not going perfect between headwall and roof. Stopped to help my neighbor / plumber install a new water heater. That is not fitting. A 2016 water heater doesn't easily fit into a 1996 closet. Current challenge is fitting the expansion tank. update Not bad. The new water heater is installed. The next thing will be to see if American Home Shield honors what they told me on the phone. My home warranty should cover most of the cost. I elected to not use their plumber, choosing my neighbor (Licensed, Insured) instead. I'm sending in the invoice for reimbursement.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 17, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) Supposed to be whoever started the game before if they won. Which is silly, but whatever. Not like we are superstitious or anything

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) First sentence was sarcastic based off his post