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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) We don't need another $10 million + contract, and we don't need a guy who doens't get along well with his teammates, that's for sure. Let the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers decide who wants to pay him. We also don't need our most expensive starters being our worst starter.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:04 AM) Except if you stop Tobacco all you get is the money you save not wasted on Tobacco... if Curry stops he gets paid 20 million. Which should make it more attractive for Curry. I will agree that is another difference though. If he then does quit basketball, he can sit on his ass and enjoy the rest of life because he's getting $400,000 for the rest of his life basically...he can do anything he wants for the most part, other than basketball, for the rest of his life. He loses the privelege to pursue what type of career he wants to pursue...but he also gains the right to not have to do anything at all.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) The broadcasting was pretty damn fair to both teams if you ask me. How many more compiments do they have to give the sox before people will be satisfied? For the most part, I'd agree. Them dwelling on the missed calls and the close calls that favored the Sox is what pissed me off. It's not like the Angels didn't get any calls at all this series...plain and simply, the Sox just outplayed them. Give it up to the White Sox for actually earning the wins, don't dwell on the umpiring. But like I said, I'd agree otherwise.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) YAYA, GO RALLY CAPS UNSTOPPABLENESS IS BEAUTIFUL

Dear Rob Neyer, How is Game 6 of the ALCS between New York and Boston holding up? Sincerely, witesoxfan Dear Joe Kennedy, You suck at predicting Yours truly, wite

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 17, 2005 -> 12:03 AM) Rally Crede + Rally Caps= Unstoppable combo. Not that many of you understand that. YAYA, GO RALLY CAPS UNSTOPPABLENESS IS BEAUTIFUL

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Oct 16, 2005 -> 09:29 AM) No. Tobacco is a drug that causes addiction. Some people don't stop even after cancer of the mouth and other areas, several operations, etc. They continue to smoke. I honestly don't think it's a fair comparison because of how different the two situations are, in my opinion. Basketball is a sport that is loved so much by some, that is is an addiction. Some people don't stop playing basketball, full-well knowing it could actually be doing their body harm and could lead to death. Yet they continue to play. The situations seem very similar to me. There are more people on earth that enjoy tobacco over basketball, tobacco kills exponentially more people than basketball does, basketball is a physical activity while tobacco requires absolutely no physical activity whatsoever...but I see a correlation, atleast between this situation. Eddy Curry can continue to do something he loves, something he is "addicted" to, while risking his life doing it. I can continue to use tobacco, something I love and am addicted to, while risking my life doing it.

Now THIS is surreal. WTF is going on? This feels like a team of destiny.

go f***in crazy This team is ridiculously good

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Oct 10, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) The Angels are headed for the World Series. Oops

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Oct 16, 2005 -> 12:37 AM) AL Rookie Of The Year: Joe Blanton, Oakland Athletics (could win 20 games on a team that can hit) If you are talking about this year, than no he couldn't have...unless you are saying the same thing about Jose Contreras, in which case it's pretty much just flat out wrong.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Oct 14, 2005 -> 11:08 PM) Do you think it's possible he wants to play because he loves the sport? I love tobacco...but once it becomes a threat to any part of my life, I'm giving it up in a second. If I can't get a girlfriend or a job because of tobacco use, I'm going to stop using tobacco...plain and simple. If I were ever near getting cancer because of it, I'd drop it in a second. Does the same principle not hold true here?

So there is an upside to living in North Dakota afterall. I got my hat with relative ease.

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) Interesting. Byrd v Contreras is, on paper, the matchup that favors us most. But behold, the one time we saw it, Byrd laid eggs on the scoreboard, and we've actually done better and better as the matchups became less and less favorable. The reverse has also been true. Tomorrow is a must-win in many respects. Another off day might cause the good-hitting team and the bad-hitting team to switch places. It will be necessary to ride this hot streak out -- but recent history is against us. Byrd vs Contreras was also unfavorable conditions for the Sox. It was a relatively cold night in Chicago, thus killing any flyball hit by the Sox, Anaheim was on an adrenaline high, and the Sox hadnt played in 4 days. This is completely different circumstances. And tomorrow isn't a must-win. They have 2 more games after that. I'd like to wrap it up tomorrow, just to be assured...but it's not a must win. QUOTE(Wedge @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) I made the bold prediction that no more ALCS games will be played in Chicago... I stand by that! Let's take it tonight! I actually made the same prediction. Great minds think alike.

I'm in that same mode too...except it's a bit different after tonight. Last night I was going crazy with excitement...tonight, I'm not at all like that. Also, am I the only one that thinks it feels like the Sox have won a hell of a lot more than 6 games in the playoffs? Maybe it's just because I've never had a chance to watch them on a consistent basis...but it feels like they've won about 12 games.

There are a few people on this board that know how I felt about Garland going in. In faaaaaaaaaaaact, there are several that know how I have felt about this road trip prior to tonight's game.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 02:02 AM) It's got to be right up there. And to think, guys like Marte and Vizcaino, who have both had excellent years in the past, have had average to bad years in 05. ...while guys like Politte and Hermanson have had career years.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) Wite, wouldn't you agree that the pitcher has the most control by far over an opposing team's offense, and therefore, is the primary component of defense? I'm just trying to figure out why people don't regard them as one and the same. If you could break it down in terms of "defensive impact" ratio, I'd favor Contreras 75 to 25 in the second half. Spectacular plays are made behind him, but the offense is clearly his b**** because of what he himself brings to the table. Right now, he is our Patrick Roy, our Ben Wallace, our Ray Lewis, etc. I'd agree 100% Without all the groundballs our pitching staff produced, Uribe does not look like a gold glover, Iguchi does not look awesome defensively, and Crede is still viewed as mediocre. Kudos goes to KW a little bit for that too, bringing in a pretty solid groundball pitching staff. Kudos also goes to probably Don Cooper for drilling into our pitcher's heads the necessity of control. You can pretty much look across the entire pitching staff, and with the exception of Marte, about everyone has exhibited better control of their stuff this year all around.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Wite, I agree with 95% of everything you just said. However, I just wanted to point out that Konerko has been very good defensively this season. I agree that his range isn't that great, but he's been excellent in the field. He has a great glove...I have never doubted that. I love his glove defensively. However, like I just said to qwerty...the best defense a 1Bman can put up for you is about .285 with 40 homers and a 100 steaks, to go along with about a .910 OPS, because I mean really, it's not that hard to catch the ball. All in all...there are probably 4 1Bman off the top of my head I'd take over Konerko right now - Helton, Pujols, Lee, and Ortiz - and those last two are even questionable. I was one of Konerko's biggest critics, and felt we needed to replace him...I've very much since changed that stance.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) That would piss them off even more. Don't need to give them more reason to beat us. Playing pissed did nothing for them tonight. With our pitching staff the way it has pitched, it'll be hard to beat the Sox no matter how bad you want to. But having the umps check Donnelly would be bush. You just don't do that in the playoffs, unless you are almost positive they are doing it.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 15, 2005 -> 01:06 AM) Wite -- I've been really hard on Williams, but when he said pitching and defense, he meant it. I still don't like the offense, and I still don't think Scott Podsednik is all that great, but this team is a top three defensive ballclub (depending on the metric you want to use, but that's nitpicking), and a top two pitching club. Great execution of the plan. I love the pitching staff and defense all around...they tend to feed off of each other. Dye is very overrated in RF, Konerko's range is limited, and Pierzynski is so-so behind the plate(but his calling game has been magnificent from day 1)...other than that, I can't think of anyone defensively that's bad. Rowand should get a gold glove this year, which is deserved, Podsednik doesn't read the ball well but has the speed to make up for it, Crede's probably the most underrated defensive player in the majors, Iguchi has been a hell of a good defensive player and seems to make up for what he lacks in range and throwing strength with good accuracy and just good baseball instincts...reminds me almost of Jose Valentin instincts wise...and Uribe is probably a future gold glove winner...perhaps even a gold glover if he is in New York/Boston/St. Louis this year. Come 07, this team could be very, very, very solid all-around defensively with Young on the verge of starting, and Anderson perhaps already starting. I'd also very much agree on Podsednik, atleast in the second half of the season and in the playoffs. He has tremendous speed, but if he isn't stealing bases productively(and he's been far from that in the second half), he's not very valuable...I am a true believer in that OBP alone does not make a leadoff hitter, but that you also need some other characteristic, be it power, speed, a combo of both, or an OBP around .410-.420 to be a productive leadoff hitter. Podsednik getting on at .360, while nice, does nothing for me if he's not getting to 2B somehow without giving up an out...you are just asking for trouble by sacrificing constantly, because timely hitting is not something that can be counted upon. That whole OBP thing is something I've thought about for a while, and I truly do not believe you need a good OBP to be a productive leadoff hitter...but that's probably something for another time with a little more research behind it backing it up. What KW did during the offseason was unbelievably huge...he filled as many holes as he could...basically every hole, plus a few others for depth...with about $15-20 mill. There were probably 6 large holes in the team going into the season(I think back and see C, 2B, RF, SU, SP, leadoff hitter), and he managed to fill those with roughly $14.5 mill...and those above do not include Ozuna as the utility infielder, Widger as the backup catcher, Vizcaino out of the pen, and perhaps more I'm not thinking about right now. The only move I really questioned at all was giving Timo $1 mill...why give a fat cop 2 boxes of donuts when he only needs 1?

Lived in Pierre, SD for the first 16 years of my life, moved to Bismarck, ND as a sophmore in high school, and I'm now a senior. Yep. Pretty boring. But I think I'm the only one from the Dakotas on here...so thats pretty sweet.

QUOTE(ScottyDo @ Oct 14, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) forgot about Jenks off waivers Jon Garland is the studliest stud since Mark Buehrle! Forgot about Marte, forgot about Colon On the flip side...the Cotts trade was not a rape. Oakland lost Foulke after the year...but we got some guy named Billy Koch? Haunted the Sox for a year and a half before our savior, Wilson Valdez, came along and rescued us from the nightmare. You also forgot one of the worst trades the White Sox have made in quite some time...Todd Ritchie nearly lost 20 games for the White Sox in 2002...he had about 15 or 16 in August when he went down with a "shoulder" injury. I don't care that Wells is mediocre, that Fogg is mediocre, that Lowe was on 3 different teams in 2002...that trade was horrible.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Oct 14, 2005 -> 11:12 PM) Coop cannot leave. We already have a big part of the White Sox family leaving after this season. Can't let anymore. TIMO

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 13, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) If you ask me, it was very Prior/Gonzalez-esque in the way that it played out. I was thinking the exact same thing. Eddings will get the blame for all of this...but truth be told, his call, whether you feel it right or wrong, scored no runs, and it put absolutely no runners in scoring position. The Angels' mental mistakes are what killed them. This is so unbelievably similar to the Cubs-Bartman thing, where all you ever heard about is Bartman, but so few people it seems remember that Prior threw a pitch that produced a taylormade double play ball that was botched by Gonzalez. Gonzalez makes that play, turns the DP, and the Cubs move on the World Series, end of story, and Steve Bartman's name is forever removed from the lore of baseball history. If I'm an Angel fan right now, I'm obviously pissed about the call...but I'm probably more pissed that Escobar just let Ozuna take second, and that he put a ball on a tee for Crede to hit.