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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Oct 2, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) for hitting 200 Home Runs 6 years in a row. Yeah they really lost a ton of power. Losing 42 homers in a year is a lot, no?

QUOTE(Wanne @ Oct 2, 2005 -> 04:00 AM) That's what I want to see....PK to get 100. Wasn't he stuck on 99 a couple of years ago?!? Yes, 2002 IIRC. He had never had a 100 RBI season in his career up to that point. Still didn't get there in 03, and he finally did get there last year.

Reminded me of McGahee's knee from the Rose Bowl a couple years back. I didn't watch it live - because I couldn't - but it's one of those things that the instant you see it happen, you know it's bad. I do have a pic of the McGahee knee-snapping. Pretty gruesome.

Here's to hoping Aaron Rowand starts and goes 8 for 8

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 2, 2005 -> 01:11 AM) The angels will take care of them, imo. Anyways, my friend thinks it'd be clement for game 1 cause he'd be on full rest but I could see them moving boomer up to go game 1. Either/or is awesome. Clement has faded in the second half(what a surprise), and Wells is very hittable. Man, how bad is their starting pitching?

QUOTE(SoxPhan7 @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 06:14 PM) I believe the name of the band was "stick figure" QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 08:48 PM) His 1st bands name was 'View' then Stick Figure right I do not believe he was asking the name of Black Jack's band, but rather who McDowell jammed with. Black Jack really couldn't have a band in the early 90s...this pitching thing pretty much got in the way.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 2, 2005 -> 12:59 AM) Can't happen like that dbaho. Schill can't pitch game 2 as that would be on 2 days rest and from what I've heard from red sox fans Arroyo will be sent to the pen. So we get Boomer instead? That could be AWESOME. The Sox do not like RHP, but they seem to tee off on LHP. Also...I don't know why anybody'd be afraid of playing Boston. Boston's not a cakewalk with that offense, but that pitching staff makes it a hell of a lot easier. Anaheim is a team I really don't care to face, but they're not a team that would bother me either. There is one team that absolutely scares the s*** out of me, that being the Yankees.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) What is the fascination with hernandez here? Apparently, his great start last year in the playoffs. 5 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 5 BB, 6 K

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Sep 30, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) His ERA is 3.48 which is high for a guy contending for the Cy Young. In fact a lot of Buehrle's stats are better. Which reminds me of a different race...

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Everybody on this board was in love with Timo Perez for what he did in clutch situations at times last year. Lies. I've been happy for the White Sox when Timo has gotten a game winning hit, and I've been happy for Timo...I do not recall EVER loving Timo Perez on this team. Knowing how "clutch" he is, I've been calling for him to be gone for a year and a half now. He can have the game winning hit in game 7 of the World Series, and I'll still trade him for a bag of balls. Does game tying include a solo shot in the first inning to tie the game at 1-1? Does game winning include a 2 run homer in the 5th to put Boston up 5-3, and Boston ends up winning by that same exact score? If so, I'd assume that 21, while still impressive, is definately a bit inflated. How many game-tying/winning homers does he have in close and late situations? Considering his splits of .346 11 33 1.293 in close and late situations, while still incredibly impressing, screams to me that his 21 game tying/winning homers is way inflated. Technically speaking, he may have 21...but there really are very few clutch hits in the 4th inning of a game, especially during the regular season.

I wish I could add an option that said "Death."

QUOTE(Randar68 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) IMO Aaron Rowand and a first-year Brian Anderson are equivalent offensively. That being said, Anderson has far greater potential, is cheaper, and is the better move looking towards the future... If you're not losing anything in the order or defensively, I don't see how you can possibly NOT play him everyday... Anderson puts up minimum of .275-20-75 numbers his first season hitting in the #7 hole... book it. Anderson's probably close to a .275 20 75 .800 20 player at his peak...I don't know where you are getting the notion that he'll put that up his first year. The only thing he has going for him is the price tag, and Rowand isn't exactly breaking the bank. Anderson will probably not put up .250 as a rookie, nor is he better defensively. And it's very easy to not play him everyday. Like I have said probably 3 or 4 times already on this thread, have him be the 4th OFer, get him a considerable amount of ABs, and do this for next year and perhaps 07, depending upon what happens with Young/Sweeney/Owens/Dye/Podsednik in the future. Perhaps he is starting by 07, perhaps 08, perhaps in the middle of 06, and perhaps he is traded...that's the point of having him be a 4th OFer while playing quite a bit everywhere - to see where he is actually at. It's not like a rookie hitter has ever come up and just played out of his mind for a little bit, showing great talent and great things to come...except for that Crede guy that put up a .285 12 35 .826 in 200 ABs or so in '02. A short quick swing, very compact, and a very good looking hitter all around. 3 years later, he's still a .250 hitter, but atleast looking a little better.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) The rotation, even though it has yet to be announced, is Count, MB, Garcia, Garland. -- I also expect McCarthy to make the roster over Duque. Though that could change depending on how they pitch this weekend in Cleveland. -- And yes, El Duque will get a good load of work this weekend. If the above happens, I like our chances. A lot. Count has been untouchable recently, MB has been better at home this year IIRC, Garcia has been ridiculous on the road, and Garland is probably good for a quality start at the very least.

QUOTE(Wanne @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) You watch...the f***in East Bias will come into play and they'll give it to Joe f***in Torre because he got his team on track after a horrid start! This actually wouldn't surprise me...sad as it is. I would LMFAO if Torre won it in the AL and Cox didn't win it in the NL. It should be Wedge-Cox without question.

QUOTE(BamaDoc @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) Check my first sentence, I disagree with many moves but with our offense you have no help. My comment was more on the lines of when has such an inept offense with no one having a great year gotten this far!? Virtually no one is batting above career norms(AJ homers mild exception). We have no one close to any major catagory. From what I can gather, you are trying to state that Ozzie has done very little to hurt the offense with his moves, and that our offense has been mediocre regardless of what Ozzie has done? If so, I'd disagree. Everett hit 3rd and sucked how long before Ozzie finally dropped in the order? He has given Timo Perez how many ABs in the leadoff spot this season? His inability to raise Uribe and Crede in the order during the past month while they have been destroying the ball? All of those moves are hurting the offense a little bit in their own ways, leading to mediocrity or worse.

QUOTE(farmteam @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:37 PM) Maybe, but other than Upton, they are thin in the Infield. But they have enough OF talent to fill 3 All Star Rosters. Jorge Cantu is solid, no? Otherwise...I agree. Huff should have been gone along time ago in a package for a bunch of younger players, but Lamar is just a dumbass, and won't move players unless he gets a top prospect for a nobody(ala Zambrano for Kazmir)

QUOTE(mmmmmbeeer @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) His poor decisions have been rehashed 56 times over on the board, no reason to go through them again. Underexaggeration of the year

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Ozzie mouth built this team..Not KW.. KW had 4 years to build a team and see what happenend..4 years of 2nd place. He put a team that had the talent to win the division on the field every year he could(2002 was probably the lone exception...01 he brought in Wells, 03 he brought in Colon and Koch, 04 he brought in FG in June, and this past year he's done what he's done), and every year except this year, they all underachieved. The 2003 Sox were one of the best teams in the majors...if not the best...talent wise, and they should have been much, much more than an 86 win team. If that team had a good leadoff hitter all year long, they win 95-100 games in all likelyhood, and perhaps the Series.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) Yes. And at the very least, he and KW did it together. Did they hold hands while doing it too? KW listened to what Ozzie wanted to do, and he went out and put a team out there that he thought Ozzie would like. Ozzie probably just said a fast leadoff hitter that steals bases and gets on base, a SS, an OFer to replace Maggs, another starter, and some bullpen depth. KW got 4.5 out of the 5...he missed out on Vizquel, so Uribe had to be the starting SS while the Sox had to settle for Iguchi. AJP was of course a gift from heaven for the Sox pretty much.

Grady Sizemore losing that flyball in the sun has sure slowed the entire Indians team down quite a bit. That's about all I'm gonna say.

Perhaps I should throw this out there then when considering MB's start against Minnesota. Sox starters against Minnesota, Sept 22-25 34 IP, 18 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 21 K Those are not lies. The Sox starters went 3-0 with a 1.06 ERA and a 0.65 WHIP in 34 IP against the Minnesota Twins. That is not all because the Sox starters are golden gods. That has a lot to do with how unbelievably bad Minnesota is offensively. They pitched well...but running into probably the worst offensive team in the league right now helps that out a lot.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:07 PM) I understand all the dislike for Ozzie recently, but he built this team into a playoff team. Not sure how thats really disappointing.. Ozzie Guillen didn't add anybody to this team. That's KW who built this team. Ozzie had influence, but he made no moves whatsoever.

QUOTE(Randar68 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) Who the heck had a .910 OPS first year? That was Rowand's 4th season with the Sox and was a .905 OPS, which is WAY out of line with any of his past or since production... Nobody has changed Rowand's role or asked him to do something he's physically not capable of, as Pods tried to do for the Brewers... I don't hate Rowand at all, you can't hate the guy, he's all heart. That said, I hate the irrational defense of him, particularly his mediocre and vastly overrated defense. Run into a couple of walls and a guy is suddenly irreplaceable. Anderson was killing AA pitching before injuring himself and his production tailed off immensely at the end of his time in Birmingham due to it. What does Aaron Rowand give you that Brian Anderson cannot provide. Please tell me. If you're hanging your hat on Rowand to come anywhere close to that .905 OPS year I have some swamp land in Florida for sale... Sorry, I was off by 5 points coming off the top of my head. And I should have made myself more clear...I was more or less referring to his first season starting. I have no problem with Anderson at all...and I don't ever see Rowand putting up a .900+ OPS ever again in his career, unless he winds up in Colorado or Texas, much the same way I never see Podsednik puttng up a .380 OBP ever again. That doesn't mean there isn't some happy medium between the .750 OPS Rowand and the .900 OPS Rowand that puts up .825-850. And I see no way in hell that Anderson puts up a .750 OPS in his first season. A guy can be putting up a 1.000 OPS in the minors, perhaps more, but there is still an adjustment period where they get used to MLB pitching where they will almost undoubtedly struggle. Having Anderson in role next year and perhaps another year or two after that even similar to that of Rowand from 01-03 would not bother me in the least. He's not an impact player at all, so having him as a 4th OFer that gets 70-100 games in at the MLB level would not hurt him in the least.

If it's not Contreras in game 1, I'm going to be sorely disappointed. Contreras-Buehrle-Garcia-Garland-Contreras-etc, etc, etc

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) How many more bad themes emerging can we handle? 2 Losing to Cleveland Golfing in October Then we lose it, and this place becomes a mental hospital.