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QUOTE(Randar68 @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) You don't think Anderson would put up a .750+ OPS his first year? ok.. I guess. :sleep He's gone from Great Falls to the Majors in 3 seasons... you think there might be a reason for that? Well if we're talking first year, then Anderson has a hell of a hill to climb. .910 OPS? Yowza I don't understand where your constant hatred of Rowand comes from. He's not a .750+ OPS player...I view it more as a sophomore slump-esque year. Not many people looked at Podsednik this winter as a .310 OBP guy at the top of the order, they more or less penciled in an OBP around .350, give or take a couple points. They looked past his .310 OBP, because they knew he had a down year after an incredible rookie year. Rowand is probably an .825-.850 OPS player in the future. Some struggles this year have a little to do with his huge success last year, along with a little bit of a lack of protection in the lineup. Last year he hit a lot at the top of the order, whereas this year he's been in the 6-7 hole all year long. That has more to do with it than you think.

Let's hope Joe goes Rob Mackowiak on the Tigers tonight And of course congrats to the Crede family

I always thought he had a metal plate in his head Something to do with the aneurysm

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 27, 2005 -> 06:20 AM) I think Teix is a solid 1B but the Rangers will want more than Garland for him. Of all their players he is going to take the most to get. That'd be fine by me. I initially had 'a package including Garland" for Teix, but decided I was going to lowball my 'moves' this offseason, so I don't just get destroyed like I did last offseason with my PK and Caballo for Huddy and Byrnes proposal And like I said above...Teix is just so damn good that you find spots for him. I think a lot of it depends on what were to happen with Frank. If you can resign him, and you do then trade Crede, you have to look at signing a guy to be a backup 3B/1B that is very good defensively that can start if Thomas goes down, thus letting Teix/PK DH and having that backup start at 3B and hit 9th. Or you can just let Teix remain at 3B and have Anderson come up, and have a OF+DH of Pods/Rowand/Dye/Anderson(probably Pods-Rowand-Anderson in the OF with Dye DHing...except Anderson's arm may not be strong enough to play RF...that is something I am again unsure of) I also personally do not invision Teix being a .285 45 150 .950 guy in Chicago...probably about .285 35 125 .900, just due to him playing in a slightly worse hitters park, along with (probably) facing better pitching...Detroit and KC are both horrible, but both Minnesota and Cleveland should be right back up at the top next year.

I'll give it a try 1) Resign Konerko 2) Pick up Politte's option 3) Trade Duque for a fringe prospect 4) (May take some grief for this one, but whatever)...Trade Garland for a very good bat...perhaps Garland for Teixeira. Teixeira will either DH, play 3B, or play LF/RF...you put him anywhere you can find room. I know he was a 3Bman in the minors, but I also believe he was moved to 1B not because he was not a capable 3Bman, but because the Rangers had Blalock at 3B. Please do correct if wrong. 5) Either sign a good #4-5 starter(in the Elarton/Thomson/Tomko/Valdes form), or sign a very solid starter...get in the AJ Burnett sweepstakes, or even try to sign Millwood or Weaver to a 2-3 year deal. I prefer for the former, due to less cost overall, along with more spending money at the trade deadline. 6) Attempt to resign Thomas to a very incentive laden deal...very, very similar to a Juan Gonzalez type deal, where if he has 1 at bat for you, it costs you $300,000, and if he has a very good season for you, it costs you $8 mill. 7) Depending upon what Thomas does, look to deal Crede in a package with Teix taking over a 3B next year(again, unless Teix is just horrible over at 3B, in which case almost all of this is just me spewing garbage) That's about it

First of all, this... QUOTE(Randar68 @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 09:45 AM) YOU DON'T BRING UP PRIZED PROSPECTS AND SIT THEM. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR CF'ER IS A .750 OPS PLAYER WITH INFERIOR DEFENSE TO THE PROSPECT! is just silly. Rowand put up a .910 OPS in '04. Methinks he can be an .825-.850 OPS player down the line, with Gold Glove defense. Rowand is also not going to be a $3 mill 4th OFer. He is either traded or starting, period. I'm sure glad Philly listened to it regarding Chase Utley. :rolly

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 12:36 AM) If that was the case, the White Sox would be a bug on the windshield of ESPN and Fox's postseason packages. Hello Fox Family channel Quite frankly, all of them scare me. New York has played crazy good baseball since about August, Boston's offense is just ridiculously scary and they are a better team in Fenway than us, and a better team in USCF than us, and Anaheim/Oakland have that whole west coast voodoo s***. f*** it, they all scare me equally...give me any of em.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) Since I put the rally crede in my avatar we're 2 and 0. boo 3-0 > 2-0

It's the f***in baby...I do not care what you say. I believe I took Rally Crede out of my sig after we lost the Santana game, and put baby back in. BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE ever since. EDIT: this is all in good fun though. You say tomatoes, I say BABY.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 07:24 AM) Your 9th hitter is a second leadoff hitter. He's not your worst hitter. Which is exactly why we've had Ben Davis and Royce Clayton hitting 9th for us in the past, and why in the NL they have the pitchers bat 9th :rolly Thanks for making my argument against Furcal for me.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Sep 25, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) 8. I'm just making the point that Tampa won't be a cakewalk. Unlike f***in' KC who just seems to roll over and die for Cleveland, but actually plays the Sox tough. (I know that's not what happened...but holy hell does it look like that)

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) your point? It doesn't matter what you have if you can't use it right. 3-5, 3.64 ERA in 13 starts, 76.3 IP, 70 hits, 6 homers, 26 walks, 92 strike outs in AA 9-2, 1.78 ERA in 14 starts, 91 IP, 56 hits, 4 homers, 24 walks, 112 strike outs in AAA A K/9 of 11 between AA and AAA is solid, no? I think he can use his stuff, but maybe that's just MHO.

That freaking rookie is Francisco Liriano. Whatever you do, just don't look at his numbers in the minors so far this year. Please.

Felix... Mueller will not make $2.5 mill, let alone much less. Not a chance in hell. He'll get $4-5 mill a year in all likelyhood. And why on earth would you bat Furcal 9th, who would end up being your biggest FA signing(and probably one of the most expensive signings period, which he will not be worth BTW, thank you Philadelphia and Jimmy Rollins), yet your 1-3 hitters will probably make half of that, possibly? If he were to be signed - which I'd rather not, but instead put the money towards resigning Konerko - he would hit either leadoff or 2nd...period.

QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) Havn't heard anybody talk about this, so since I'm bored of choke/playoff/hitting/mariotti talk, how bout this question. We are obviously going to have a monster rotation next yr. especially if we keep jose and he stays sharp. I would actually like to move the wall back quite a bit. Face it, ownership isn't gonna pay the money for more big bobbers and most of our outfield is very fast, plus we play better on the road and most places aren't a bandbox like the Cell. I think it would help our record next year to keep up with the teams in our division. Well whatcha all think? PS. also its worth noting all our homeruns hit these past few havn't brought an abundace of fans these last few years and its not like we can't have a few less seats in the outfield. So that way we try to lose Friday's game instead of winning it?

QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Sep 24, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) i called it yesterday when i started this thread! pay homage! The Sox hit a guy that has been 1-6 with a 7.41 ERA and a 1.76 ERA going into the game tonight since the ASB. If they DIDN'T hit Mays, that would be horrible. Talk me when they hit a guy with an ERA below 4.

Sven and Lena get married, and decide to start a family. So Sven and Lena do their business, Lena is impregnated, and the two rejoice. Well, about 8 and a half months later, Lena is very near due, and Sven has to leave. He talks to Olie and tells him that he doesn't have time to name the babies, and will be out of town. So he tells Olie to to name the kids for them if he is out of town when she delivers. Well, about 2 weeks later, he returns, and Olie says to Sven "Sven! Lena had twins! There was one boy and one girl" Sven asks "So what did you name them?" Olie tells him... "Denise and De-nephew" Two blondes are reading a newspaper. The headline is... "TWO BRAZILIANS KILLED IN CAR CRASH" The one asks the other... How many is in a Brazilian?

Hafner = Thome, basically...to me atleast. Albert Belle was just a prick, period. A lot of times, you hated whether or not he was on your team. Jim Thome I hated because he was a f***in machine.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) I don't think anyone think's we can go 6-4 down the stretch. But I'm with ya buddy. Just hated seeing your thread looking so lonely. 3 more games with an offensively dead Minnesota team, a 4 gamer in Detroit, and 3 in Cleveland...take 2 of the last 3 with Minnesota, or perhaps even all 3, and then 3 of 4 from Detroit and your Wild Card is clinched. I honestly see no reason that can't happen, even with the Sox playing with their heads in their asses and Ozzie managing a lineup worse than JM. Take 2 of 3 from Cleveland, and you got a potential division winner.

Dear White Sox, Why is Carl Everett still hitting 3rd? Puking in my mouth, witesoxfan

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Don't forget that our so-called aces all allowed at least 4 runs, and our bullpen was very mediocre during the series. I will admit, right now, I did not see the game. But from what I can tell, Garland was pretty much done after 7. Sending him out in the 8th is just not the right decision.

QUOTE(whitesox91403 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 12:04 AM) Guess we're due then huh? I hope you're right, but history says differently... In Johan Santana's last 7 starts against Chicago, dating back to last year: 6-1 1.03 ERA, 0.71 WHIP, 6.6 K/BB, 11.4 K/9, a HR/9 of 0.51, a BB/9 of 1.91 in 52.3 IP A bit of overkill on my part...but I think you get the picture.

What would be fun to do is have a underachieved list too. Rowand has hit incredibly worse this past year than he did last year(like 160 points or so below his OPS from last year), Uribe is not at an .830 OPS, but rather a .730, Marte's control has been horrible all year, El Duque has been anything but unhittable the past 2 months, and perhaps even Carl is in the underachieved category. What would be interesting to see is how people view Podsednik. Did he underachieve or overachieve this year? Or was he about right?

Just a point of interest, perhaps... Johan Santana's last 2 starts vs the White Sox... 16.0 IP, 10 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 20 K Last 3... 24.3 IP, 16 H, 1 R(a meaningless 9th inning homer by Konerko in a 5-0 game), 4 BB, 30 K Just FWIW

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 06:25 PM) Ok...so Freddy just needs to drink a lot of water 1 hour before the game starts from now on, that way he's fine in inning 1. Sounds perfect, let's have our pitcher LITERALLY pissing his pants when he faces the Cleveland lineup. Brilliant.