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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 09:44 AM) I just might have to do that, now that you mentioned it.. Yeah don't. Seems to me this should be more about the election itself. I'm sure there are other threads you can post pro-Obama tweets in.
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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 09:37 AM) They can be goldmines for comedy but I never partake myself. I do, but I understand the consequences. It seems to me that a lot of people don't realize that there is no anonymity on Facebook.
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Jesus, Dick, you can just say you don't like Adam Dunn and you think he's overrated and be done with it. You are arguing to argue, and you are baiting people into arguing with you. This is not productive conversation.
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2012-2013 Sox off season Catch-All thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) BoSox signed Ortiz for 2 yrs, making slightly less than Dunn. Coming off an Achilles injury while also being older -
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 09:01 AM) Neither? Probably the right call. Is Perot still on the ballot?
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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 08:53 AM) Tommy Chong @tommychong It's simple, he cares for the 100% #VoteObama Hmm, who to take political advice from...half-baked wanna-be celebrities or Wall Street experts?
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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 08:35 PM) Well the clearly you don't apply to the statement I started with earlier "If you are in to WAR, and market value per win". I'm sure he understands it quite clearly. The fact of the matter is, GMs not only see money in the production a player puts on the field (which is all FGs WAR does), but they also see money in marketing plus money in a potential playoff appearance. If spending $25 million on one player for one year makes an owner $45 million because of additional attendance plus an extended playoff run, how does that play in, even if he is "only" worth $21 million per FanGraphs WAR? This is not as black and white as you make it seem. -
2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
witesoxfan replied to southsider2k5's topic in The Diamond Club
Josh Bell's a minor league free agent. He's been absolutely horrendous in the Majors, but has put up some good numbers in the minors recently and, if nothing else, would be nice to have around as someone to push for competition and provide depth in the minors. -
I wasn't even crazy about Season 8, but the final episode (or final two if you want to break them apart) was/were fantastic. "Season 9" was Season 1 of a completely different show that flopped terribly.
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QUOTE (VAfan @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) I'm just focused on two numbers -- wins and losses in relief. Here's how the teams ranked, by wins over losses in relief, then by fewest bullpen losses. /facepalm The Royals had the best bullpen in the Majors. By far. Their W-L? 25-21. They had a mediocre to slightly above average offense and a horrible, horrible rotation. That's why their W-L was so mediocre. QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 06:50 PM) I think bullpen losses are important. I'm not singling you out but with all the "new" stats, we are told you can't judge a SP by wins and losses, you can't judge RP by wins or losses, saves are supposedly a flawed stat. How are we supposed to know who is a good pitched and who isn't? You can't really go by ERA for RP because one bad outing can skew their ERA. I think I even heard Steve Stone say in a broadcast that you can tell a good pitcher by the number of unearned runs he's allowed. To me, if a SP is 19-7, I don't care what his ERA is. Same with my closer. If he saves 40+ and only 2-3 blown saves, he can have an ERA of 4.5+. /double facepalm Jake Peavy went 11-12 with a 3.37 ERA and a 4.4 fWAR in 219 innings. Phil Hughes went 16-13 with a 4.23 ERA and a 1.9 fWAR in 191.1 innings. For relievers, you figure out how many baserunners they allow. WHIP. Strikeouts prevent balls from being put into play. ERA helps, but it isn't an end all, be all. Just saying.
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"You can't spend a dollar when you only have fifty cents"
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Grandes bolas
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 09:01 AM) steve rosenbloom @steverosenbloom The new Sox GM traded the son of the former Sox GM. Just waiting on the tweet from the son of the former Sox manager to blame Don Cooper. Jesus is this good
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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 09:15 AM) Personally, I would have sent flowers. This is what I, as well as I would assume 97% of other men, would actually prefer over a card or beer.
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Good f***ing lord, quit going based on feel. Hundreds of sites keep statistics on a yearly basis, and one in particular lists every single player that has ever played a game of baseball and lists their splits (as far as they are aware) at Baseball Reference. (HINT: They also do this with other sports, though less comprehensive) Here's Dunn's splits from 2012: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ar=2012&t=b Accounting for lefty/righty bias, he was about the same between the two Actually hit better on the road - perhaps puts too much pressure on himself in front of the home crowd Great in the first half, terrible in the second half Hit better in wins (doesn't everybody???) Hit better and walked more playing first base (whereas the DH statistics are similar to last year) Knows how to leadoff (.344 OBP, 9 "lead-off" home runs) Kept innings going with RISP - .212 AVG, .349 OBP Walked, swung for the fences, or struck out with no one one THE REST OF HIS AT BATS WITH RUNNERS ON OR NOT (your judgment call, either way, there's still no worthy sample size) Most of his plate appearances came with two outs, where he struggled But here follows the 2 most important statistic groups of Adam Dunn's season (coming from Dunn's biggest fan) #1 WHEN THE WHITE SOX WERE WINNING: .202/.371/.486/.857 WHEN THE WHITE SOX WERE LOSING: .202/.307/.514/.820 This tells me two things: teams don't want to pitch to Dunn when the Sox are winning, because in one pitch, he has the chance to increase the deficit. In the same regard, teams aren't afraid to pitch to him when they are winning because, even though he can change that score in a second, you are far, far, far likelier to get him out. Teams aren't afraid to pitch to Dunn, which speaks to not only his ability but the hitters in front of and behind him as well. #2 ADAM DUNN IN HIGH LEVERAGE SITUATIONS: .186/.254/.382/.637 He's great everywhere else. He had some big hits, but he wasn't clutch last year. I'm sure you can dive back into his data and find a point when he was good in those situations, but this was the closest he's ever been to the playoffs in his life, and he (er HERM) struck out, like the rest of the Sox. You can deduce whatever else you'd like out of them. s***, look around all the splits. You'll be surprised. Not counting Hector Gimenez, bet you'd never guess which player had the best OPS with RISP. Or who had the highest average. Or the second highest average. Or the fifth highest average. (ANSWERS: Orlando Hudson; Alex Rios; Alexei Ramirez; Dayan Viciedo). I'll put the link in my signature if it helps people from making these sorts of projections based off of goddamn "feelings." YOU DON'T FEEL STATISTICS, YOU FEEL BOOBS
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QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 06:56 PM) The ideal 3 hitter has high AVG, high OBP, and high power numbers Since Pujols and Kemp are unavailable, I'm willing to have a non-ideal one -- be that Dunn or someone else. Actually, that's the ideal cleanup hitter, which is why Konerko typically hits there.
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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 05:14 PM) WHO IS PUMPED FOR CHARGERS-CHIEFS TONIGHT?!?!? Only for Ryan Mathews /wrongthread
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They are miniscule sample sizes, but it's worth noting nonetheless Flowers' first half - .164/.250/.295/.545, 68 PAs Flowers' second half - .253/.333/.507/.840, 85 PAs
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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) If getting "one big out" is your number one criteria in a reliever, you'd better find a way to have a 10-man bullpen. You need guys who can pitch entire innings and get both lefties and righties out. Veal and Thornton aren't even comparable as pitchers. Thornton in high leverage situations last year - .306/.387/.469/.857, 112 PAs. 2011 - .299/.380/.391/.771, 103 PAs. His K/9 is in a downward trend - 12 to 9.5 to 7.3. His fastball velocity has been moving downwards - 96.1, 95.8, 95. He began throwing more "junk" - 78.1% "fastballs," of which 63% were of the 4 seem variety, which is down from a pretty standard norm of 85-88% in the 4 previous seasons, plus 21% of pitches were sliders, by far the highest of his career. I trade Thornton if I can get good value, but quite frankly, there are signs pointing both to him falling off and him completely adjusting his game to cope with a dawning realization that he simply can't reach back and throw it past everybody anymore. He's not overly expensive, but he's a generally easy piece to move nonetheless. He's more of a risk than in recent years.
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I give him 2 years
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 11:36 AM) Polanco can't hit. Yep. He'd be OK as a bat off the bench, but I think his reputation will precede him and he will be overpaid by about $3 million
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 09:35 PM) I like Chavez. He's a much, much bigger health risk than Youkilis. With a platoon partner, he'd be OK, but I don't see any other way.
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QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 02:34 PM) I have seen nothing to suggest that There have been reports that he did not particularly care for being in Chicago nor did the team particularly care for him being here. You say all the right things in the public eye but I too do not believe there is a lot of mutual interest in renewing their relationship. It doesn't mean both parties won't explore it. I'd put Youkilis coming back to the Sox at about 10%.
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QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 12:33 PM) Power hitting, Gold glover who can hit in the clutch... is that too much to ask?? Brandon Inge suit your fancy?
