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QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Interested to see what reliever he ends up getting traded for. probably David Weathers
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Game Thread: Sox v. Tigers 3:10pm Sept. 3, 2011
witesoxfan replied to Downtown518's topic in 2011 Season in Review
Least expected back-to-back homers in the history of the game -
Game Thread: Sox v. Tigers 3:10pm Sept. 3, 2011
witesoxfan replied to Downtown518's topic in 2011 Season in Review
Nevermind the fact that he was completely wrong about the Pierre AB. Pierre was running fine down the line the entire time and Cabrera was in his way, so he moved slightly in. Perhaps Pierre did some of it intentionally, but there is no way you can call him out for that. I don't mind Vasgersian or whatever his name is. -
9/2 - Sox @ DET; Danks vs. Ver-Zeus-Der
witesoxfan replied to witesoxfan's topic in 2011 Season in Review
Well this was a gigantic waste of time -
9/2 - Sox @ DET; Danks vs. Ver-Zeus-Der
witesoxfan replied to witesoxfan's topic in 2011 Season in Review
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 04:47 AM) If you haven't got laid in 8 months you might want to re think that pre-requisite. You ever been to North Dakota? Trust me on this one, getting drunk is a pre-req. QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:54 PM) I'd bet Ozzie bats Rios and his .566 OPS against Verlander clean up and also plays Dunn tonight. Sorry boys, but this weekend is gonna kill whatever hopes you have left... Dude, f***.off. -
Hell I don't care. He's being honest. Its not what I would have told the media but he's not putting pressure on them atleast. I want him gone but this is a non-issue to me.
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9/2 - Sox @ DET; Danks vs. Ver-Zeus-Der
witesoxfan replied to witesoxfan's topic in 2011 Season in Review
QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 09:20 PM) You're in North Dakota. Other than cow tipping all there is to do is get drunk and get laid. Have at it ! You are correct. Getting drunk can be done no matter what, but getting drunk is a pre-requisite to getting laid. -
9/2 - Sox @ DET; Danks vs. Ver-Zeus-Der
witesoxfan replied to witesoxfan's topic in 2011 Season in Review
QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 07:39 AM) Outstanding. I will give you your props. I also hope you finally lose your virginity. dude, spreading hatred with your words. I simply have not gotten any in 8 months. That is way longer than any person needs to go. Rosey gets tired after a while. -
In 29 innings this year, Justin Dumbass has allowed 6 homers to the White Sox. That is roughly 33% of his homers in roughly 13.5% of his innings. Danks is money. Even as good as this lineup is against LHP, I do not see either starting pitcher getting a decision. I don't foresee Valverde losing his perfection. Thornton will throw, and that is all I know. ALSO, I KNOW THAT I WILL BE DRUNK TONIGHT, SEPTEMBER THE 1ST. ALSO, I KNOW THAT I WILL AGAIN BE DRUNK SEPTEMBER THE 2ND. ALSO, I KNOW THAT I WILL HOPE THE WHITE SOX WIN AND WILL CARE LESS WHETHER THEY WIN OR LOSE. ALSO, I HOPE THAT I GET LAID. PRAY FOR ME. WHITE BOYS LIKE ME NEED IT.
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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) They're going to have a starting pitcher end up with 22-23 wins likely and a perfect closer on the year (at this point). If this was the Twins a year ago, everyone would be saying they have a great shot to advance to the World Series. Oh they absolutely do. They have good hitting, a talented bullpen, and capable 2-4 starters. I don't care for the team long-term, and I think the Sox can win the division; regardless, this Tigers' team reminds me a lot of the 2003 Marlins. I still think either Boston or New York would tear through that pitching staff, sans Verlander, but he gives you 4-8 wins pretty much automatically (if they don't use him in relief on his throwing days). If Verlander is magnificent, finding 3 other wins should not be hard. If he struggles on short rest, so too will the Tigers. Fister, Penny, and especially Scherzer would need to step up. That will not be easy. Verlander, more than anyone else, will define Detroit's future. Well, maybe not more than Eminem.
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And here I thought the Royals had a pretty damn good bullpen. They blew 2 saves/holds to Detroit. They had a chance to sweep and instead lost the series. I haven't completely lost hope. I turned the game off today after Hughes' homer (what a terrible pitch by Peavy...easily the worst inning by a Sox pitcher this year) , and Pierre, with a good jump, catches Plouffe's "double." Either of those 2, assuking pre-deterkined destiny, end that inning with 4 runs scored. I still followed on my phone. They got close to winning a game they had no business being in. Lillibridge is a ridiculously valuable player. To say that, had changes been made earlier, the team would be in a better position is unfair. 97% of people (approximated figures) wanted Viciedo up, yet De Aza has been incredibly valuable, more so than most could have predicted. Flowers has been instrumental in some victories as well, and he would have never been. given the chance without AJ going down. Viciedo has been everything advertised, BTW. I do wish he would have been called up sooner. I've said as much on here. I can't rule them out. It will be a series-by-series thing from here on out, but a sweep this weekend makes them very relevant and 2 of 3 keeps them alive. Finally, I will say that the last time I saw the Sox look this good over a 20 game stretch was last year before the ASB. They are playing with hunger right now, !nd bringing up a few players from the minors may do worlds of good. Hopefully, Reed is among them. (PS - has anyone noticed how well the young players' (if you want to include De Aza as a young player) have approached the plate compared to the major leaguers? Walker.is.awful.)
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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:00 PM) Time for Fister to start sucking Never said he sucked. Just said he wasn't that good. Doug Fister is a #3 starter at best. He's allowed a line of .294/.315/.403/.718 in 5 starts with Detroit. For his career, with a great defense behind him (something Detroit really does not have, though it has been much worse in the past) pitching half of his games in the best pitcher's park in the AL, he's at .268/.309/.391/.699. That does include his 5 starts with Detroit, but is a bigger reflection of his 59 starts with Seattle. When I see his Seattle line, I see that he didn't allow a ton of hits - a benefit of pitching in front of a good defense and in a pitcher's park. He does allow a lot of contact, and that is not going to change. I also see that he walks a few, but nothing out of this world. I also see that hitters do hit the ball hard against him at times, noted by the .123 Iso against him. I don't expect his BAA to remain that high - I see it settling in the .280 range. I think his OBPA will remain roughly the same, perhaps going up a bit to .320, but nothing drastic. I see that Iso rising a bit due to the increased number of hits, but again, nothing drastic - we'll go to .135. Thus, I don't think it would be surprising to see him end up at about .280/.320/.415/.735. And, if you factor out the good luck he's had, I would imagine his ERA ends up somewhere around 3.75-4.00. It doesn't surprise me that a team that doesn't hit for great power and doesn't walk a lot didn't hit him hard last night. I'm still of the belief that both Boston and New York would destroy him in the playoffs. I think this current Sox team will make him work, but that they'd get beat 50% of the time they faced him. He's Nick Blackburn if Blackburn allowed a walk fewer per 9.
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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) AA has done some amazing things, many of his moves are more for the longer term (I know, you're an all in guy). That said, if after another 3 years and he hasn't progressed in the standings then of course he didn't keep up his track record. That's the key to all of this. He was lucky to find a taker for Wells, but his return for Halladay isn't looking so hot right now, and he was (and still probably is) the best and most valuable pitcher in baseball. Kyle Drabek, though still young, has been absolutely demolished at both the MLB and AAA level this year and one has to wonder if he's not injured. Michael Taylor - who's been OK - was actually traded immediately for Brett Wallace. Wallace was then traded for Michael Gose, who has, again, been OK at the AA level. Travis d'Arnaud has played well this year, but that's one player. He was lucky to find a taker for Wells too. I like Anthropolous and what he's done with that organization as much as the next guy, but they are still quite a ways away from getting out of 4th place. People were in love with Jack Zduriencik too and then the M's fell flat on their face and his plan failed, and suddenly he is thought of as a middle of the pack GM again. There are many ways to go about building a team - the Astros brought in as many players as they could for Pence and Bourn to try and replenish the depth they'd lost over the years as well as getting as many serviceable MLB players as they could. The Jays have set themselves up with high ceiling players, but if 2-3 of those players completely flop, especially some of the bigger names (this year alone, Snider and Lind could have done wonders for them, but their presence has been non-existent), it's all for not. What I see is high variability with that team. There will be a year, probably within the next 4, that they win anywhere between 92-102 games. And then there will be a couple years that they only win 75-83. That's the nature of young players and how they pan out. Some players blossom and continue to be stars. Some come out like a bang, struggle for a year or two, and then find their groove again. Others succeed at all times they are not injured - which is often. Some succeed, fail, and then can't get it back. There is a lot which is yet to be accounted for. Before anyone declares AA as one of the best in the game, I would suggest that they take a step back and wait for everything to pan out. In the meantime, I'm going to suggest that, if using wins/resources, Andrew Friedman is the best GM in the game. I don't think there's much of an argument.
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I didn't see anything wrong with his stuff. It wasn't great, but I wasnt expecting it to be. He left pitches up, nibbled a bit, didn't have a good put-away pitch, was catching too much plate when he was ahead, fell behind hitters, and then threw too good of pitches when behind. It was not a good performance but he looked like a young pitcher with mid-rotation potential tonight. I think that's about how he projects, so he fit his description perfectly tonight.
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At this point, all they can do is keep winning. They need to win atleast 3 of the next 4 to maintain some sort of relativity. If they can somehow win the next 4, they are suddenly, at the worst, 2 games out. Lose the series to Detroit and they're, at best, 6 games out. There's a chance if they keep winning. At the very least it's nice to see them winning a bit, especially against the Twins.
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QUOTE (sayitaintso @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 09:59 PM) I thought AJ had a NTC, but I could be wrong. 10/5 NTC
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Which of the underperfomers will figure it out in 2012?
witesoxfan replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) Great points on Dunn. He's already ruined one season's lineup pretty much double-handedly with Rios. He could easily ruin another. Just retire, Adam. Show some respect for the game. Showing respect for the game would be working his ass off during the offseason and tearing it up next year. -
QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 26, 2011 -> 12:45 AM) It was Hendry, and I am PRETTY certain the Cubs will end up with either Pujols or Fielder next year. They have lots of money freed up, can spend tons of a money, need a 1B, need to show the fans they still care about winning, and most of the other big players (Yankees, Red Sox) have 1B locked down already. They really don't have that much money coming off the books. Ramirez is a big number coming off the books, but they owe several players raises either through arbitration or their contracts. If they are lucky, they'll be able to convince some other team to take on Zambrano for $5 mill. Including Zambrano on their payroll still - even though he will be gone - my rough estimate only has them freeing up about $8.5 mill, and that's not including the $5 mill they owe to Carlos Pena in January. They are bleeding money right now and Ricketts emphasized them building from within because they can't afford to make outlandish free agent offers any longer. I think there is about a 1% chance that Pujols or Fielder end up in Chicago. Off topic, but the darkhorse team that I believe has the best shot at ending up with Pujols or Fielder is Toronto. Since 2008, they've cut their payroll by nearly $30 million, and if fixed for inflation, is probably a cost reduction of the value of more than $30 million. They are an organization with a lot of young pieces in place for the coming years and they have shown the propensity to spend money before. If they could get either of those two for roughly $20-24 million a year, it may be worth the risk. It's simply a matter of whether they believe going down that road would be the right thing to do. Having seen the ramifications of free agent busts around the league - mostly pointing at the Sox here - they may be weary. Then again, if their ultimate goal is to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox, it may be the only way they'll be able to do so.
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There's a lot to like about Martinez. He hasn't walked a ton, but he does have as many walks with Birmingham as he did with Winston-Salem in half the ABs and he's improved his contact rate as well. On top of that, he's put up a .392/.446/.527/.973 line in August after struggling initially upon his promotion. He's shown OK power this year too...about a 45 XBH hit pace given 600 plate appearances. He's definitely someone worth monitoring next year. Andy Wilkins has put himself on the map too. Good power, decent eye at the plate, good strikeout rate. Just have to hope he can continue to do that if he moves up to Birmingham next year.
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QUOTE (farmteam @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 06:17 PM) I saw something on Manswers once (so you know it's credible) that you don't want a hand job from a British woman...apparently they don't wash their hands very often. I'm not picky, so she can go right ahead and touch my dicky
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QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 10:06 PM) and I hope he's wrong about Reinsdorf's son taking over too. dealing with dear ol' dad for almost 30 years is enough just sell the team and ride into the sunset Naturally, Chicago is a great representation of what happens when a father passes a team off to his son because after Bill Wirtz passed on, the Blackhawks continued to be a terrible team.
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Get it over with and let Buehrle go to Yanks/Red Sox
witesoxfan replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 24, 2011 -> 07:59 AM) There might be teams more clueless. There might be teams more directionless. But NO team, IMO, is more clueless AND directionless than the Sox. The Sox might be towards the bottom, but I don't think there is a worse run team right now than Baltimore. -
Mark Buehrle signing a 4/$56 deal that essentially ensured he would stay in Chicago (due to his salary increasing by $1 mill a year along with an additional year at $15 mill attached) was pretty incredible hometown discount considering he probably could have gotten 6 years or more money in general on the free agent market. He's not nearly as good as Weaver is, but I would say he is a top 50 pitcher in the game.
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QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 02:41 AM) Trade John Danks to FLA for Logan Morrison + a decent pitching prospect. Or you just trade Ozzie Guillen for Logan Morrison.
