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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) Sounds like the Sox are actually being conservative with Mitchell, and plan to start him in Kanny. I approve. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5257600.story That's where I figured he's start. In the absolute best case scenario, he plays some in Birmingham by the end of the year and if not, he should still start next year there anyways. Hopefully he hits.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 9, 2011 -> 07:50 PM) That's part of it. But also does alot of good things. 1. he has a smooth back swing and keeps hand up behind the head. 2. His arm slot is high enough. 3.His stride is a good length and his foot plant is on the ball of the foot and in line with his hip. 4. His follow through finishes down by his hip. 5. His trunk get parallel to the ground with his foot up over his head. These are all good things to generate force and dissipate the force so that no one tissue has to be overloaded and begin to cause a problem. As I recall, he's ended the previous two seasons with a sore hip. What could be causing that?

Mike Rice handled that situation with absolute class.

Hamstring tightness sounds a hell of a lot better than sore shoulder.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 9, 2011 -> 02:56 PM) Damn, this is the only type of post I did not want to see during this thread. Really, this was the only type of post I didn't want to see all Spring. Peavy is the biggest wild card for the White Sox success this year. If he can even give the Sox 150 innings of 4.00 ERA baseball, the Sox are going to be very good if not the division favorites. If Peavy misses any extended period of time, it's going to be a big hit to either the bullpen or the rotation, because you have to have Sale in one of those spots and removing him from the other really hurts.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 11:00 PM) Adam Dunn will be a Twins killer this year. book it That would be alright

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 09:58 PM) IIRC, a player has to go through waivers any time he's removed from the 40-man roster OR any time he is sent to the minors as an out-of-options player. I'm pretty sure that any player who passes through waivers unclaimed, regardless of his status, can either accept a minor league assignment (if offered) or elect free agency instead. The money is guaranteed though, so the player still gets paid. Usually guys like Teahen are DFA'd, pass through waivers, and then are straight released. Edit: nevermind, it does appear a player has the right to reject an assignment only after he's accumulated enough service time. Here's something from Rob Neyer: Hmm, it's only 5, so then I was correct in the first place. I thought it was 6, probably because that is the required time to reach free agency. Not only that, but he can demand a trade too - not that there would be a ton of interest for him on the open market.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 09:44 PM) I thought he has to accept the assignment when a team tries to send the player directly to the minors without passing through waivers, and if he doesn't agree to the assignment, he has to go through waivers before he gets assigned, that way he has a chance to get picked up by another MLB team. Is that wrong? That is wrong, although I think I was actually mistaken that he would have the right to reject the assignment. As I understand it, players with more than 6 years of service time have the right to refuse an assignment to the minor leagues. In a hypothetical scenario, the White Sox could place Juan Pierre on waivers, no teams would claim him (because he's TERRIBLE! amirite?), and he would still have to accept the assignment to AAA. If a player is out of options and the MLB club wants to send him to the minors, he has to pass through waivers regardless of service time. I believe I am wrong because it appears as though Teahen fell about 17 days short of the required service time to be a 6 year veteran, as he is only at 5.155 years of service time. If the Sox were to try and pull this maneuver in May, THEN Teahen would have to accept the assignment. It's a possibility, but I don't see it happening. I do think Teahen provides the best offense off the bench from the left side of the plate within the entire system right now, and he is being paid a ton of money this year - the White Sox are going to want to get everything they can out of that investment. Maybe they get lucky and he puts up an .800 OPS in limited plate appearances and some team thinks that he will be worth giving another shot at starting full time.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 07:29 PM) Possibly, if he passes through waivers and no one wants to claim him. He would have to accept the assignment as well, and considering the glut of teams who could use another decent bat in their lineup, I'm sure he'd much rather be playing in the majors than in AAA and the Sox would be forced to eat the $10+ mill owed to him. It's not a realistic scenario. Teahen is stuck on the roster unless someone wants to gamble on him.

Yeah, to not get hurt and to make sure he stays healthy. It would be better if Peavy came back late in April at 100% and healthy for the year than to break camp with the team and make 7 starts before he has to go on the 60-day.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 02:19 AM) By somber do you mean AWESOME?? Keep em weak! I actually really don't like that they have a catcher that hits that well. You can build an offense very easily around a shortstop or a catcher who hits really well simply because of how great the margin is between them and the league average. Consider the Twins - Mauer has been absolutely amazing, and they have had basically one great hitter beside him throughout the years, and they are a good offensive team with relatively mediocre players otherwise. They haven't had bad players, but that's the point - you don't need great players because the catcher makes up for so much else. If they can find one more great hitter and can surround those two with solid players, their offense gets very dangerous very quickly. Grady Sizemore seems to be a forgotten man, and sort of for good reason due to injuries and general ineffectiveness the previous two seasons, but if he gets healthy and performs well, that offense becomes pretty formidable simply because of those two. Their pitching staff is an entirely different story. Yikes.

Not that you have to do any real research, but the board is bored and I figure talking about baseball is awesome. Anyways, I was actually looking at Ted Kluszewski's stats the other day, and saw that he had a 1.049 OPS in 1954 and finished 2nd in the MVP voting. I was curious to see who could have actually been better than him and it turns out Willie Mays actually was better than him that year. So then I went to see who won it in the AL - Yogi Berra with a whopping .855 OPS. 4th in voting that year was Minnie Minoso, who actually led the league in bWAR, so talk about media bias if you want to, though it was a time frame when people considered a team's success more than they did the individual season. Which leads to the main focus of this - spots 2, 3, 5, and 6 in the MVP race all belonged to members of the Cleveland Indians (Larry Doby, Bobby Avila, Bob Lemon, and Early Wynn respectively). I saw that and figured that team had to have put up some gaudy numbers, and jesus did they. 111 wins (in 154 games), 2nd in the league in runs scored (746), 1st in runs allowed (504). More specifically, they had 5 regulars with an OPS over .822, and of their 5 starters who threw significant innings, Art Houtteman had the worst ERA and ERA+ (3.35 and 109). Oh, and Bob Feller was still bringing it at 35 - even though he threw the fewest innings of the staff, he put up a 3.09 ERA and a 119 ERA+. They were swept in the World Series by the Giants, who "only" won 97. Damn, that Indians team was ridiculous. Oh, and parity in the AL? Not happening. Indians won 111, Yankees finished 2nd at 103, Chicago finished 3rd with 94 wins, and Boston finished 4th with 69 wins. Yes, that is a 35 win differential between 3rd and 4th.

QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Omar Vizquel. That was decided before ST. Lillibridge for back-up infield and pinch runner. Teahen because he is under contract for 2 years That leaves two spots that are open. I like Danks and Viciedo because of their potential upside. They would be a minor upgrade over Kotsay and Andruw Jones, IMO. Milledge is a better overall player and probably has a better shot than either Danks or Viciedo, but I like Danks left hand bat and Viciedo's is a better hitter than Milledge will ever be right now. That would assume the Sox go with 11 pitchers. They will not. I also don't think that Danks and Viciedo is an upgrade over Kotsay and Jones. Perhaps in some weird mashup of their abilities there is some possibility of an upgrade (Danks is a superior defender, Viciedo is an equal hitter and can play 3B), but that won't happen. I am still thinking Castro, Vizquel, Teahen, Lillibridge, but Lillibridge is really the only bench player who has a shot at not making the roster. They could conceivably want a better hitter in his spot and Teahen does have the ability to field a few groundballs at 3B and 2B. I would say Milledge and De Aza are the other possibilities, but I think you want Milledge getting quite a few ABs in the minors. That last spot on the roster is probably going to be the most interesting competition of the Spring because I think the bullpen is largely decided - Thornton, Sale, Crain, Santos, Ohman, Pena, Infante. QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Mar 7, 2011 -> 01:34 AM) Danks looks absolutely awful every time I see him at the plate, I sincerely hope he's not our top prospect He is absolutely not. I don't even consider him to be a prospect at all anymore.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) Mike Moustakas is now.... Mike Mousaki -- Bill Melton That's actually the plural form of Moustakas, meaning that there are more than 1 of them. That does not bode well for the White Sox in the long-term.

What really seems to separate the Bulls 2nd unit from others around the league, especially when Deng is playing with them, is that they are ridiculous defensively. They aren't going to score a lot but they will be able to hold the other team at bay.

I don't think I've ever seen a team so talented disappoint so often. Oh, and hey Spoelstra - RUN A DIFFERENT OFFENSIVE PLAY EVERY NOW AND THEN. I get that LeBron is amazing and can create his own shot with a dribble/drive, but s***, you can be a bit more creative than that.

so who is playing 1B? And which catcher isn't catching?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) If Thorton put up his same recent years lines as a closer, he probably saves somewhere between 40 and 45 games, with only a couple of BS's. Combine that with his history, his long term health, and his left handedness, and I could have seen a team throwing 4/36 at him in desperation. How many 35 year old relievers get 4 year deals?

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) I feel like I should post this late at night so I can't claim sobriety, but is the MLB "Batter Man" logo a silhouette of the back of a righty, or a silhouette of the front of a lefty. One of life's great mysteries.. I've read that it's supposedly Harmon Killebrew.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) If he won the closers job and pitched like he has the last few years, he could have easily tripled the total dollars in that deal. I don't think he would have gotten $36 million. Anywhere from $24-30 million I could have seen, but $36 is too much. I'm OK with this extension. This really is perfect value for him, because it's cheap enough that he can be dealt if struggles or anything else comes up, and it's cheap enough to not really affect anything else.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Mar 5, 2011 -> 05:53 PM) The alphabet thread. Well said.

So we were doing some calf exercises on Thursday and I overdid it. They were sore yesterday but didn't notice anything significant, but the pain is damn near crippling today. I can't really walk, can't really stand, (I think) there is a little bruising, and it feels really tight (and obviously painful). My right calf is a little more sore than my left, but I would say on a pain threshold scale, it's about an 8 for my right and a 7 for my left. I've had sore calves from working them out before, but this feels worse. I'm assuming right now that I just strained them a bit and that within a couple days I'll be walking better, but if it doesn't improve quite a bit before Monday, I'm going to have to go in and see a doctor. My main concern is, what should I be doing in the meantime? I have them elevated right now, trying to stay off of them as much as I can, and I took a warm bath to try and loosen them up a bit (and it worked a little, but they tightened up pretty quickly). I've seen that some like wrapping and icing them too.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 5, 2011 -> 12:59 PM) t The article is written with only partial information and is inaccurate. He tries to combine different ideas to sensationalize it. The injury Peavy suffered is not a tendon tear as he describes in the latter part of the article. He attempts to compare them but the detached tendon is different then a tendon tear. He states in the article that this is the worst of the tendon injuries. That is wrong again. Tearing a tendon mid-substance is much worse. that surgery is like tying two pieces of spaghetti together and it doesn't work well. Re-attaching to bone is easier to do and has better results. He calls this injury an avulsion which is wrong. An avulsion is when the tendon or ligament pulls off a piece of bone with it. Those are relatively easy to fix as you just pin the bone down and it heals like a fracture. It's an interesting article but it seems like he got a few different sources of information and put it together quickly and confused a few of the combine topics. In conclusion, leave medical journal pieces to medical professionals.

Teahen will play the year out on the MLB roster with the Sox constantly looking to dump him off during the season. If no one bites, we'll probably see a Linebrink type situation again where the Sox eat a solid chunk of his upcoming salary and take back virtually nothing in return.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Mar 4, 2011 -> 08:55 PM) Pearl Jam... good enough band especially live, but I completely miss out when people say they're great Naturally, this doesn't surprise me. I happen to love Pearl Jam, but most of the people I have ever met that listen to Pearl Jam just basically say "what's so great about this?" I dunno, I just find it awesome.