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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 10:31 PM) In the higher levels of the draft? No. First, the Bears have much bigger needs on the O-Line, at WR, possibly/probably at QB, and potentially at Safety. They should have some cap room next year depending on what they do with Briggs et al., but there's really nothing the Bears can do as far as I can tell right now at RB. Their cap status and Benson's contract really leave them no choice but to try to go with these 3 guys next year, and hope that if they fix the O-Line and the rest of the offense, that fixes it. It certainly is worth noting though that there's quite a few guys out there putting up big numbers who weren't high draft picks at all, like the guys in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, etc. According to Peter King, out of the top 50 RB's in the NFL this season, 30 of them did not come out of the first round. The needs on the O Line are just bigger, and this draft is supposedly quite solid on O-Linemen Honestly, I would have actually expected that number to be higher

QUOTE(Shadows @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) Miami isn't even really bad.. they are just normal bad.. this is now game 6 they have lost by three points They have just had way too many injuries and zero luck on their side.. but Beck has looked good, would love to see him get to play in a game that wasn't the s***tiest conditions ever I just watched the end, so I didn't see much, but John Beck did look good on play action...the Dolphins receivers just seem pretty bad right now. The only one who has a chance to be a play maker is Ginn, and he's raw as hell. Ronnie Brown obviously is/was good, but who knows how he'll be next year when he comes back There's a bit of talent there, but that top 3 pick (in all likelyhood anyways) will be really nice for them...hell, the #1 pick would be outstanding.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 09:39 PM) I don't know about that. The 85 Bears roster, playoff run, and superbowl seem to be more legendary and better remembered than the 72 Dolphins. But I'm biased. Seemingly every year, the 72 Dolphins are brought up, especially when the last undefeated team loses. I'd say that's better remembered.

obviously praying for Sean Taylor...he hasn't been a model citizen, but that's just terrible. And Miami is really bad, but you have to wonder how good the Steelers are...they've scored like 16 points in the last 115 minutes against 2 of the 3 worst teams in the AFC and possibly the NFL. (and yes TRU, I do recall that they killed the Bills)

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 08:48 PM) Personally, I find the notion of Heath Phillips having trade value even more humorous than Nick Masset. Leading off for your Chicago White Sox, left fielder, Jerry Owens > Heath Phililps trade value > Nick Masset trade value > center fielder Jerry Owens

QUOTE(iamshack @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) How? Why? There are two prevailing attitudes around here that are somewhat bothersome. One is that our prospects are worth far more than they are. The other is that they are worth far less than they are. What is needed are more posters who espouse the viewpoint in the middle- their true value. I feel I am doing that. Quite frankly, Broadway and Phillips have virtually no value at all, especially in a trade for a player the caliber of Miguel Cabrera, Gio Gonzalez, talented as he is, has question marks about both his health, size, and ability to limit home runs in a ballpark that is conducive for home runs, Sweeney just repeated AAA in a hitter's park and put up an OPS of .746 in an injury plagued year, and Fields hit .240 and was on pace for 200 strikeouts while putting up a league average OPS. The Marlins would not consider it. Now, the Angels offer you proposed - Kendrick, Willits, and Mathis - is a little better because Kendrick and Willits have both had success at the MLB level and Mathis is a solid catching prospect, but I really doubt the Marlins deal him without getting some stud pitching too; that just seems to be the way they operate. The Sox will have to include DLS and possibly Danks as well, because Miguel Cabrera is an absolute stud and the Marlins know it.

QUOTE(heirdog @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 02:52 PM) Fields, Sweeney, Gio, Broadway, and Phillips for M. Cabrera? Where do I sign? Hell, I'd even throw in Brian Anderson if they wanted. The Marlins wouldn't even consider that deal

I said Brian Anderson; I assume that with how much he parties, he has quite a bit of experience. I will always take experience in this situation.

QUOTE(Lemon_44 @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 04:51 AM) 2006 American league silver slugger at 3B, Mike Lowell,NO,Joe Crede, YES. To say he can't put up offensive number is ridiculous. Lowell has been more consisten over his career but a healthy Crede is no slouch. The qusetion is whether he's healthy. Crede had been becoming more of an offensive force every year until his back gave out. Someone suggested Crede and a prospect for Abreu. I said you do that deal. I don't think the Yankees do that deal but,if they did, i would assume Crede at 1B or DH.Where else would he play? You are using a silver slugger to determine the better hitter, rather than actual numbers. Your argument is going nowhere.

Kinda funny since I just busted out Super Smash Bros and Goldeneye this past weekend when I went home along with NFL Blitz. Remembered how much I loved the N64.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 08:21 PM) The USSMariner puts an interesting spin on this. The Angels gave Hunter the same exact deal Ichiro got 4-5 months ago... and Hunter is no where near the player Ichiro is. When saying that, please take into account that Ichiro is 2 years older and that a lot of his game depends on speed (which, generally seems to age much worse than power, though Kenny Lofton has proven that to be quite false, and I believe Ichiro will too...just way too good of a hitter). I wouldn't say Hunter is no where near the player Ichiro is; rather, I'd say he's slightly inferior and was in an opportunity to have other teams bid against each other. Ichiro never had that opportunity, partly because of his own fault. I haven't checked, but has USSMariner compared Hunter to Vernon Wells yet...the Vernon Wells who signed like a 7 year, $126 mill deal? There are two sides to every story, and this really isn't the worst contract that has been given out within the last year.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Nov 21, 2007 -> 04:27 PM) We don't know for sure what shakes out at 2B. Upgrade to a gold glover in CF and we look pretty good. His name is Danny Richar; do some people seriously think he isn't going to start next year? He may have a platoon partner, but he is going to be given every chance and more to start.

QUOTE(gosox41 @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 10:58 PM) Either spend a little cash to save money or enjoy paying $20 mill for a 6+ ERA pitcher. Bob First, when has Jose Contreras ever been a 6+ ERA pitcher? Secondly, I really do think Contreras is going to have an ERA under 5 next year. I know, real high goal, but that's a dependable starter who will eat 160-180 innings; that's actually pretty valuable and very much worth $10 mill in the current market. So, as much as I'd like to see that $20 mill freed up, Contreras should be kept unless someone wants to give up something of value. Think of it this way...this 26 year old reliever who just finished up AA is coming to the Sox because the Mets are doing a favor by picking up Contreras' salary for the next 2 years. If they trade for him next year, he's merely a stopgap and there is no commitment beyond that, thus they'd likely be willing to give up the same package, and perhaps even a little more (as weird as that is). There's no reason to trade Contreras right now without getting something that has value to the MLB club in return.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Andy Reid is a very good coach and this was his Super Bowl; JJ is a good D. Co. and this was a good opportunity for his team to gameplan. It's good that the Patriots won this game so close against who is still a top NFL strategist and a very determined team. But I'd point out Moss' bogus PI call in the endzone and note that most of the drops the Pats. had today don't happen very often and it was kind of flukeish. Very good job by the Eagles. The Pats did not play well at all. There were a few penalties, Brady seemed pretty off all game (but obviously still good enough), and the defense was vulnerable over the middle all game. And the Eagles played a hell of a game too. Tells you a little bit about how good the Pats are.

ballgame, see ya AJ Feeley

QUOTE(soxfan3530 @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 09:10 PM) That is the point though. I dont think he will be in in similar price range at all. I would rather take Rowand, save some money that we could spend elsewhere (if we plan on making other moves after that). Jones is a very good player but i just think we depend on the long ball too much as is. Jones would just add to that. If you take Rowand, you are very likely making a long-term commitment as well. With Andruw Jones, there's a good possibility that he'll become a free agent again after a year or two (unless someone is dumb enough to give him 5+ years)

Dude, there is an entire forum based on this exact concept.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 11:01 AM) We teach "popping" up. It takes a couple tries to find the sweet spot, but if you are athletic, it seems easier. We practice on the beach until people get the hang of it. so are we talking about surfing or sex?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 08:32 PM) !=, not =!. so is ≠

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) Oh hell...sign them both. and then trade for Coco Crisp too

QUOTE(Lemon_44 @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 01:28 AM) no basis at all for that statement. 3 years ago,Lowell was as unmovable a player as Contreras is now. He was a throw in to rid the Marlins of his contract in the Beckett trade. Fenway park has greatly benefitted him. Crede hit what, .290 with 30 hr's in 2006? To say Lowell would be better is pure speculation. First of all, you yourself admitted that was 3 f'ing years ago. This year, Lowell's coming off a .880 OPS, a .320 average, and a World Series MVP. Secondly, Lowell has had 6 years with an OPS over .800 plus 3 more with .870 or more. Crede has one time had an OPS of .800 or more, and that .828 is still 42 points short of the .870 Lowell has put up 3 or more times. Third, the Yankees were signing Lowell, not trading for him like they would for Crede. Finally, the whole Boston-New York thing (as in, by helping your team slightly you are hurting their team tremendously) comes into effect; Crede's situation has no bearing at all on Boston and neither helps nor hurts them. The situations don't compare, and I'd absolutely guarantee the Yankees have absolutely no interest in Joe Crede for a major league caliber player.

They are definitely done alright.

I, uhh, kinda sat around all day. I pretty much pledged that I would not shop on this god forsaken day.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) I've gotten an "I love you" from her today. How sweet. Wite's idea involved rohypnol and him, though I'm not sure how having him drugged helps the situation? I was going to roofie her, but then on accident, roofie myself; she would understand my intent, and help me finish. I figure it has to work. QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 09:50 PM) Ya see, that's kinda what I think, but either way....there's chemistry there. BTW, did you save any of the good bits of drunk Gage last nite? S***F*** I COME HOME FOR THANKSGIVING, HAVE NO AIM, AND THEN GAGE GETS F***ING DRUNK, WTF I think I hate myself

There is no reason to be thrilled with the Linebrink signing. He provides an upgrade, sure, but he's not a stud stopper by any stretch of the imagination.