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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2014 -> 07:36 AM) The reason anyone became so offended by this, and again, no women as of yet,is because they are card carrying Hawk haters. 4 years ago the Tribune published a poster during the Stanley Cup Final of Chris Pronger in a skirt calling him Chrissy Pronger. There was no big deal. On this site someone posted it and said they couldn't believe it wasn't being talked about. Illini did say it was stupid but did not go on about why. Others who are saying what Hawk said is just wrong said nothing although they were posting. Then there was the Chrissy Pronger is gay in the Blackhawk locker room. No outrage. . Besides if you think about it Hawks usage is not sexist. What do women generally put skirts on to do? Not getting dirty and physical. The Pronger thing had looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. Far more sexist if you want to be PC and not just admit males are just better at these games than females or there would be female participation. That's not always true, think of women's field hockey, lacrosse or professional tennis players, for example. They were forced by societal conventions to wear them, at one point, over "masculine" shorts...but they at least provide free range of movement.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2014 -> 08:08 AM) Why leave out Chris Sale? Because I was trying to make a team out of former Sox minor leaguers and/or current ones. Then the infield would be obviously be Abreu, Beckham, Alexei, Viciedo probably in the OF over Sweeney, etc.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 16, 2014 -> 07:00 AM) Caulfield, I'll give you a lot of credit, you have to be the first poster to start a topic with multiple sentences in the title. I actually didn't do it intentionally...always seems like there's an extra line in there when you do a poll that's kind of superfluous.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2014 -> 06:23 AM) People would be very happy with the draft pick position, and there would be no need cheering for losses as those would come by the dozens naturally. If this is supposed to be White Sox draft picks, Davidson, Santos and Cotts don't belong. Yes, I'm aware of that...there's virtually no way to fill out a team without going to minor leaguers or former minor leaguers in our system. I don't even think Chris Getz is still playing baseball, or Josh Fields. Maybe Fields is... I only included Santos because we basically "reinvented" him as a pitcher, so you can't say the Sox don't deserve at least 50% or more of the credit for that one.

2B Micah Johnson CF Chris Young LF Michael Morse DH Chris Carter RF Ryan Sweeney 3B Matt Davidson/Marcus Semien 1B Andy Wilkins SS Carlos Sanchez C Chris Stewart/Phegley Buehrle Gio Gonzalez McCarthy H.Santiago Rodon Bullpen...Boone Logan, Addison Reed, Matt Guerrier, Sergio Santos, Neal Cotts, Clayton Richard, Lucas Harrell

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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...cle1237204.html Trading for and KEEPING Shields was key to Royals' 19-4 surge http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...cle1237145.html On how to act when your team's actually pretty good for the first time in your lifetime Did anyone cry when the Sox won the World Series? I don't remember crying...just being very proud and still kind of in shock because of how they barely the Indians' charge in September and then they just got on that surreal roll of games and pitching. Maybe it's different for Pirates and Royals fans because of that 20-30 year gap without anything but misery. We needed Matthew Wein all along. Wein, more than Shields and even more than Brett, has lived what Royals fans are hoping to experience over the next six weeks. He just did it in Pittsburgh. Wein is 31 and a lifelong Pirates fan, which means he’s basically lived the life of a Royals fan, just with a different wardrobe. He says that growing up rooting for a loser has shaped who he is an adult, some of it good and some of it bad. The Pirates are winners now, so to remind himself and others of the Kevin McClatchy years (the Pittsburgh equivalent of the Board of Directors years) he wears a Ryan Vogelsong jersey (the Pittsburgh equivalent of Neifi Perez). “You did feel like you were in an abusive relationship with the Pirates,” he says. “Like it was really your fault for enabling the Pirates to do this… “They were so bad, so ostensibly awful, I started saying, ‘I’m just a baseball fan and I happen to live in Pittsburgh.’ But then you realize, ‘I won’t stop watching. I can’t stop.’ Eventually, you accept it, like, ‘Oh, I’m really a Pirates fan.’” That started to change two years ago, when the Pirates were in first place in July and above .500 as late as Sept. 18. They had a young star in Andrew McCutchen, and enough pitching that the future looked bright. That’s when the transition took traction, with some bumps along the way that Kansas City can relate to — the football mentality transferred to a 162-game season, the embedded cynicism from a generation of letdowns, and an honest uncertainty about when to really believe. That 2012 season ended in disappointment, and a 20th consecutive losing record. Not even the Royals can match that. But those who stuck around saw a start-to-finish contender in 2013, 94 wins and then an epic wild-card victory over the Reds in which the fans in Pittsburgh rattled Cincinnati pitcher Johnny Cueto so much he dropped the ball on the mound. Now, the Pirates are again in position for the playoffs and the team is drawing more fans than any season in its history except for the opening of PNC Park. “It took a while for people to think it was real,” Wein says. “But now they think about it like it’s nothing but real.” The adjustment isn’t easy. Nobody likes to admit this, but there is a comfort in the losing. It’s familiar. Wein got used to leaving late for a game, parking close to the stadium, and waving at the nice usher who always let him sit closer to the field because of all the empty seats. Last year, Wein couldn’t get a ticket to the wild card game. He watched from a bar, and spent the last few innings “sobbing like a child.” Winning brings a sort of first-world problems, of course. Tickets are more expensive, expectations higher, and Wein says he can already feel a sense of entitlement from some Pirates fans. But this is a lot like romanticizing that dump of an apartment you lived in right out of college. The harder life is much better in hindsight, because the greatest thing in a world for a fan might be your team paying you back for years of letdowns with one glorious stretch of daily joy. “There’s nothing anyone can tell you that’s going to prepare you for what you’re going to feel, or how you’re going to deal with it,” he says. “You can’t prepare for it. At some point, you’re going to accept that your team is no longer awful. Something is going to click in your brain and you’re going to lose it. You’re just going to lose it. “If you’re someone who cries, you’ll break down crying. You’ll cease to be gunshy about it. And the payoff is worth it. Allow yourself to enjoy it. Don’t shy away from that. Allow yourself to enjoy it when it happens. Don’t become relentlessly pessimistic just because that’s been your nature the last 20 years. Allow yourself to enjoy it when it happens.” At least, that’s what people in other places say. But even Pittsburgh is a different place, with different history. Here in Kansas City, maybe we need to see this for ourselves. To reach Sam Mellinger, call 816-234-4365 or send email to [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter at @mellinger. For previous columns, go to KansasCity.com. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...l#storylink=cpy

Updated, at 2:30 a.m. After some of the protesters blocked the entrances to businesses and civic leaders, including St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, arrived early Saturday, the scene calmed and the brief outbreak of looting ended. The police line was still in place near West Florissant and Ferguson avenues but had not advanced to the site of the protest line as of 2:30. Officers also did not move in during the looting. Updated, at 1:40 a.m. Several dozen protesters stood in the middle of West Florissant Avenue screaming at a line of police vehicles about a block away when suddenly some of them broke away and began looting stores. Among the places hit was Feel Beauty Supply and Ferguson Market and Liquor, which had been previously boarded up and was the site of the earlier incident where Michael Brown was accused of stealing cigars. That incident took place shortly before he was fatally shot by a police officer. Other protesters eventually lined up in front of the market, keeping looters from returning.

Timeframe: Local police chief shows video SUPPOSEDLY showing Michael Brown robbing $49 worth of cigars, don't take any questions from press Come back hours later and admit that the Brown robbery wasn't at all connected with the confrontation with the officer..that Brown was standing in the street and blocking traffic Ooops...realize this removes all the motivation on the part of the officer/s to single out Brown Backtrack and say the officer/s reportedly saw Brown with the cigars...providing "probable" cause, rather than just singling him out for being big and black and blocking traffic by being in the street... ST. LOUIS • News that Michael Brown was wanted as a robbery suspect could put a fresh light on his killing by a Ferguson police officer, a use-of-force expert said Friday. “A police officer making a stop of just a couple of guys walking down the street is very different from an officer stopping a couple of guys who just committed a robbery,” said David Klinger, a criminal justice professor at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. The circumstances faced by Officer Darren Wilson contained both elements, according to a description Friday by Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson. He said Wilson was aware there had been a robbery involving cigars but did not realize when he ordered two young men to stop walking in the street that they were suspects. Wilson made the connection when he noticed cigars in Brown’s hand, Jackson said. St. Louis Post-Dispatch Of course, this last detail wasn't provided in the first or second press conference, it just sort of magically appeared to exonerate the officer...I mean, seriously, this type of response is typical for a misdemeanor cigar robbery?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 10:15 PM) I like Abbatacola, but Hawk earns the point in this argument. Rongey always takes it too far the other way, and defends the team/organization no matter what, and every fan just realizes he's never going to give you a genuine or authentic nature because of this tendency of his to protect his job. On the other hand, picking public fights with someone who's the broadcaster for the team carried/hosted by your own radio station seems to be a bit of a stupid move. You can say whatever you want off-the-air or after he's no longer broadcasting the Sox games, but it's kind of like picking on a grandparent...we all know our grandparents (well, mine were born before 1900) aren't always perfect, in fact, my grandfather was very racist...but you can't judge those older people by the standards of today and declare yourself superior, because you didn't go through that same period of history, you can't understand the context...the cyclical nature of prejudicial attitudes being passed down from father to son until the chain is finally broken somewhere along the line. Even my mom, she's 85...and she will say "colored people" instead of black or African-American. She never uses the term Negro or the much worse "n-word," but I try to tell her all the time people don't say that anymore and it's like she can't change or filter her vocabulary at this point in her life. It's why you saw the likes of Howard Cosell and Al Campanis go down later in their careers. So I understand exactly what Harrelson was trying to say...just as I equally understand those from my generation or or the one following feel the need to put down older folks for not being so sensitive or empathetic. Plus, Hawk's got that Ozzie Guillen in him...he will engage with anyone who attacks him, and he always wants to get the last word in. (Remember all that stuff with Mariotti, Hiney-bird and then Cowley?) That's why the Stone and Harrelson pairing hasn't always worked, two pretty healthy egos, whereas Paciorek is willing to put Hawk on a pedestal and be the faithful sidekick and not get in his way or walk over his lines. I feel 100% confident John Rooney or Dave Wills would never say something like what Hawk did, they're from the following generation of broadcasters...but that doesn't mean they're better, they're just more professional and less opinionated, and that's fine. Actually, Farmer is more opinionated that Harrelson, and made comments without knowing what he was talking about (SF home plate call with Flowers/Blanco) that were more embarrassing to me as a Sox fan, because he THINKS he always knows what he's talking about.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) good post Greg. i agree in most part, 1. the league will soon be pricing them selves out of a fan base following. fans today in most cases can not pay for 3-4 tickets for a family nite out at the ball park - game thicket $, food, parking. the tv will be a cheap second to watch a game. except for the die hard fans, not that many of the family will sit down an watch a game. the young kids would rather go out. 2. the prices for some of the fa's this yr is going to be crazy. can you imagine what Jose A. will require to resign with the sox??? Which is why they have a five year window after 2014 to get it done...realistically, more like four, 2015-2018. At the end of this six-year contract, Abreu will be 33 and declining, so it was actually perfect timing on the part of the White Sox to have him close to cost-controlled and in his prime career years. Picking up Abreu at 33 would be similar to the situation the Angels now are in with Pujols.

QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 05:53 PM) Raul Mendesi took Danish yard on a 3-2 pitch. Mendesi or Mondesi, Jr.?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 05:22 PM) 3 up 3 down for Danish including a SO of Bubba Starling.......Speaking of that dude, I feel like his name was brought up years ago as a future star and dude is still in A ball? Because he was a very high (top 10) pick of the Royals in the first round...high schooler, always a higher bust rate.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) Too much deep fingerbanging can really mess with the ligaments and tendons in your forearm. Thought it was TUC before I saw the poster, haha.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) Not only that, but I believe one of those teams had 7 guys hit 20+ home runs (Maggs, PK, Crede, Rowand, Valentin, Lee, Thomas maybe?). It was just a different era that can't be compared to the current. I do think the team needs a LH hitter but if the scouts love Tomas and pass on him because he's a righty that's just bad practice. I really hope we go into next year with 4 starting outfield types. Avi, Eaton, a lefty and a fourth wild card who can provide either great defense or serve as the primary DH with the bat. Regardless, I'm just praying were done with Viciedo and De Aza. 2000 Durham 17 Charles Johnson 31 Thomas 43 Ordonez 32 C-Lee 24 Jose Valentin 25 Konerko 21 Herb Perry had 12 and Chris Singleton 11 2003 there were six over 18 homers. 2004 there were six over 21 (Uribe, Crede and Rowand were added...Thomas had 18)

Everyone knows the kind of talk that goes on in NBA/NFL/MLB clubhouses. Just read all the transcripts from the Dolphins' situation with Ignito and Martin...that's just touching the surface, undoubtedly. Or remember Beckham calling Getz "gay" written in the dirt? All that stuff with Ozzie and Mariotti? However, just because Harrelson was/is around that kind of talk, IN THE CLUBHOUSE...doesn't mean he shouldn't make some type of effort NOT to do it, or we should simply accept the excuse "that's just the way he is, he'll never change, etc." He can at least TRY.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) If the Sox had a guy like Peavy in the dugout with all his fire and passion, the bullpen would be too scared to blow as many leads as they have. Sox would probably be in playoff contention. Too bad he couldn't SCARE/INTIMIDATE the Detroit Tigers so easily. He was either winless or one and something his entire Sox career against them. I'll never forget that game where we were up 5-0 in 2012 and then it completely disintegrated in the middle innings (with the help of a bad reliever again).

http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way...-053336976.html Darren Wilson is the name of the officer I think trying to turn thing around on Brown and vilify him over the theft of $49 in cigars is only going to backfire in the end...it's right out of the "it's her fault for dressing provocatively/blaming the victim" playbook in a rape case. Surely, someone should have known better than to send almost an all-white militia style assault force when finding just ONE African-American state patrolman (Ron Johnson) with ties to the Ferguson area could have ended everything in a peaceful manner.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) I was all set to become a Brewers fan in 1986 or 1987 when they were going to leave. But now that they are in the NL, I would have to at least consider the Twins, but probably stick with the Brewers. It would be far less invested. Whichever team has the best pitching coach, haha. Probably not Rick Anderson. So you get Bosio, I think. The Twins would only be fun if Buxton, Sano and Nick Gordon turn out to be monsters.

Going to see BOYHOOD later today. Am obviously aware that it's an almost 3 hour movie, but it's supposed to be amazing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) So how long until we get the first post about sending Garcia to AAA, and how they would rather have Jake Peavy back? Don't you mean Rios (Leury Garcia)? Or we're talking about Avisail, since he's already in AAA? You mean not bringing him back up? Peavy, after all, did beat the White Sox, although he hasn't beaten anyone else this season, so there's that.

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If twenty years from now, the average age of a baseball fan is closer to 33-43 and not 53-73, then the commissioner will have pulled off an amazing trick. Gammons said it this morning....about baseball being too focused on promoting the history of the game and ties to the past, while NBA and NFL is all about superstars and action figures. With Jeter leaving the game, guys like Trout, Stanton, Puig, Kershaw, Abreu, Sale, McCutchen, Cabrera, etc., have to be promoted much more effectively and strategically. A lot of the momentum from the World Baseball Classic has stopped....how are they going to continue to build up revenue streams from Mexico/Caribbean/Venezuela? Brazil? Colombia? Central America? With the distance to China, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan being a prohibitive hindrance, how to continue to expand in the Asian market, besides just simulcasting games over satellite? Will Million Dollar Arm move the meter AT ALL in India?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 07:08 AM) A worse version of Adam Dunn could still be a useful contributor to a team as long as he is not paid >$10 million for the privilege. I think you just hit upon one of the key talking points to motivate fans and corporations to buy season tickets for 2015. Let's hope not. Or that they're going to burn a year of control on Rodon simply to promote his possibly/probably being in the White Sox rotation next year...by showcasing him in September.