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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) If you wanted to get rid of Danks, we should have traded him to the Angels for Josh Hamilton and gobs of money. Seems Texas might be the ONLY place where Hamilton has the support system in place to succeed...not sure a city like Chicago would be the best landing site. It would be interesting to see between Reinsdorf, Hahn and KW how much, if any, interest there was over the off-season. Probably not very much (obviously) after Melky Cabrera/LaRoche signed....but was it Plan B, C, D or not even a consideration?

Orioles and MLB surely made the right decision...fan and officers' safety is paramount. They can't afford to bang the whole series, though, and try to make it up later in the season.

McCarthy must be incredibly optimistic to have the attitude he does (see his twitter feed) after all those injuries. Of course, having the security of that new long-term deal tends to help.

Please, let's not just stereotype or paint ALL protesters with the same brush...because we've had debate after debate over the police here at this site, and no good comes out of blaming either side, really. Clearly, something needs to be done across the country in order to improve frayed relationships between police departments and the local communities they police.

"This afternoon, a group of outrageous criminals attacked our officers. Right now, we have seven officers that have serious injuries, including broken bones, and one officer who is unconscious," Capt. Eric Kowalczyk told reporters. He vowed to find the attackers and put them in jail. www.cnn.com Head over there right now...huge banner headline, "STATE OF EMERGENCY"...the tv show SCANDAL just had an episode exactly like this situation, except the riots were in a neighborhood not so far from the White House

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 05:03 PM) They're dropping like flies in the NL Central. Homer Bailey might need TJS now. Yay, more starts for Jason Marquis. So much for that Jermaine Dye deal now.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:25 PM) I'm not praising the guy. The White Sox aren't going to have a team of 13 Chris Sale's and 12 Jose Abreu's. A guy like Danks who gives the team a chance to win with a decent enough game has a role, I'm not enthusiastically awaiting his starts but I'm also not just burying the guy. It can get worse, people. It can get so much worse. Well, of course....we saw that last year with Rienzo, Axelrod, Carroll and Johnson. That's still NOT THE SAME as he's anything but very much below average. Someone will come here and say that's among the "qualified" guys and there are many other starters who are worse. Sure, that's true, but it doesn't mean he isn't a problem or drag on the team's ability to be competitive, any more than those same spot starters / long men / AAAA guys aren't issues to overcome for their respective teams. Quality depth, it's hard to come by, unless you're the Nationals, Tigers (seems like most of their replacements overperform expectations, like Lobstein) or A's.

QUOTE (onedude @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:04 PM) Isn't Jaime Garcia coming back for them soon? Also they have 2 or three options in the minors. Cardinals aren't hurt as mush as most other teams would be with their number 1 being shelved. It stings, but if any team in this league were to get over that, it's them. I'd like to see Marco come up...not sure what their view on that is though LOL No, he's a long ways from coming back and probably will never be the same. Marco Gonzales is much closer to coming back, but has the always-difficult pectoral injury to recover from...at least 2-3 weeks away, probably.

ONCE AGAIN, for the 100th time, I never said it sucks. I'm just not ready to characterize it as elite/great/nails because of David Robertson and statistics from just 20 games. Sorry if that disappoints you. I love to watch Robertson pitch and feel that the team now has some confidence in the back end, which is also helping with their overall ability of Ventura to assign them consistent roles and stick to that. With the Rodon situation, though, there's a big wild card. Unlike you, I'm not 100% confident in Rodon adjusting well to pen work as Sale did. As PTAC has pointed out 100 times, there are some mechanical issues (aka flaws) in his delivery and he's going to continue to struggle with repeatability and consistency. If you believe he's going to have the same impact as Francisco Liriano in 2006 with his slider, great, but I'm not so sure about that. Statistically speaking, it's VERY VERY rare for teams in this modern era of baseball to recover from 0-4 and 0-3 starts and still go on to make the playoffs. That's just a fact, you can dispute it all you want, but certainly you weren't confident enough in the White Sox to predict they'd make the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons, either. Yes, if the Indians were swept by DET, I would have considered them done....sure, no problem with that. I've watched Kipnis enough the last two seasons to have serious concerns about him returning to the same form he displayed in his first couple of seasons...and the Indians without Kipnis playing at an All-Star level is the same as the White Sox with Adam Eaton OPSing in the mid 500's. I don't recall ever saying anything about Jose Quintana being done...other than repeating the same thing everyone here has said since 2012. Concerns about elevated pitch counts early....3-2 counts, and not being able to put hitters away due to the lack of one dominant strikeout pitch, wasting pitches when ahead in the count, giving up the one big inning and/or letting himself fall apart when the defense isn't backing him up (part of this is the residual "frustration" effect from all those 41 no decisions, leading the majors during that time frame)....etc., etc. You're welcome to go through the Quintana thread and find where I said he should be pulled from the rotation. I simply shared the same viewpoint as Balta and MANY others, that this team had no realistic way to compete in 2015 without Quintana being as good as he's been the first 3 years or so of his career, barring a Cy Young/Rookie of the Year campaign out of Carlos Rodon and/or Erik Johnson. It would be nice if I could just click my heels together like Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz and guarantee a bullpen record like the Twins in the 2000's or the Royals in recent years...just saying they're nails, that doesn't mean they're automatically going to be as good as the 2005 or 2008 (first half) pens, which were more talented and possessed more overall depth/quality. If that constitutes ripping your opinion, I guess...we could debate the semantics and word choices for the next decade and bore anyone left on this board completely to death, undoubtedly.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) Given the age he is, I'm not concerned about the age appropriateness at this point. If he moves up to AA at some point this year, that's fine, as he'd be younger than average and about right for AA at 23. As I said before though, there is essentially an open slot in BHAM, so Engel should really get up there soon for that reason and that he seems to be handling A+ so well. One piece of bad news - he's really a CF, and he'll have to alternate with Jacob May if he's going to get time there. May is a good defender thanks to his speed, but his route running needs work and his arm isn't great. Sounds like if Engel's as athletic and Trout-like as some are claiming, May might be the one to be moved to LF. His speed and ability to play center field are his best assets. Guess it all depends on who the organization believes has the higher upside, as you'd prefer that player to stay in CF and then eventually move if needed, just like you keep a player at SS as long as possible before moving him to 2B, 3B or the outfield.

We win two games against the Royals and now everyone is forced to feel the same thing as other posters? Get real. We're still below .500, and we are still the same organization that has lost 16 of our last 21 to KC and 17 of our last 22 at USCF to KC. I don't remember ever in a million years celebrating this much beating a team in the first half of a season, because the only thing time has proven is that we struggle to beat teams like the Twins, Tigers and Royals in the 2nd half, when the games really matter. Balta's stats are or the ones posted earlier are totally irrelevant? Then aren't we doing exactly the opposite by "overhyping" the same stats after just 20 games played? "fans seem to love to be miserable...not trying to find negatives for every damn thing...there are a couple of people who would like to have the Brewers record" This kind of WSI "group think" is why that website doesn't exist any more, for all intents and purposes. Because posters had the temerity to think for themselves and not act like sheep. We don't need anyone, not even the mods, to tell us how to be a Sox fan or how to go about enjoying the game of baseball. Chisox.com could post 100 Scott Merkin fluff pieces per week, they could have Brooks Boyer and Rongey on the radio 25 times a day saying only positives things and defending the organization, and it probably wouldn't make one iota of difference in terms of attendance or fan support/enthusiasm. If the White Sox want to not be in the bottom 5 teams for all of MLB in attendance, they're going to have to do a lot more than beat the Royals, a team many pundits and prognosticators picked for 3rd or 4th in the AL Central. As a Sox fan, it's okay to disagree as long as you have a well-thought out reason for having your opinion or position. If we're just going to blindly all have the same viewpoint or not even be able to have disagreements without insulting each other at every step, maybe it's better to not post at all. I mean...think about it, if your biggest joy in life is assessing others and how good they are at being White Sox fans, maybe that priority it out of whack and needs to be re-examined. For example, Fathom can also be gloomy or Cubs-centric (and most Sox fans are guilty of this, myself as much as any), but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best and most consistent posters on this board. I would never think he's not one of the best White Sox fans out there. Heck, Marty, even though I disagreed with 98% of what he said, he made you think at least...and defend your beliefs with real evidence/support and not just opinions. Just the fact that many of us spend XX amount of minutes or even hours per day HERE at SoxTalk discussing our favorite team and/or sport should mean we needn't spend wasted time defending our right/s to have an opinion that it's in the minority.

That's a pretty big risk that the Cardinals "fix" Jackson and turn him into a productive rotation member. They certainly don't have to save the money, in the overall scheme of things. In 2011 he put up a 3.58 ERA and WHIP around 1.50 (with St. Louis), nothing amazing, but it's probably as much as they could expect out of Gonzales and he has far more durability than Jaime Garcia will ever provide again at the major league level... I think they'd rather take Jackson and $6-8 million instead of Cole Hamels' deal....its number of years into an uncertain future AND the loss of Carlos Martinez when they've already dealt Shelby Miller and Kelley from their stable.

Well, we know the Nationals have extra pitchers available (Gio, Zimmermann, Fister)...but that's a highly improbable option. The Mets supposedly are looking to shore up their starting line-up. So the obvious one is trying to trade Noesi or Danks. Of course, there's P. Maholm out there for free, Aaron Harang, Kyle Lohse...the Cardinals aren't likely to take on Danks' contract, but you never know. Matt Garza, maybe? Yovanni Gallardo, although the Rangers needs to at least try to compete the first 2-3 months (if possible). The Cards keep getting asked by Amaro for Carlos Martinez AND to take on that huge contract for Hamels, so that might be a non-starter for Mozeliak. They're not going to get anywhere asking for Cueto, David Price or Jeff Samardzija, either. The Cubs won't just give them Edwin Jackson....not where it's going to backfire against them. And the Cards can keep saying they're willing to wait on Marco Gonzales and their overall record's just fine.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:29 AM) You two realized he's talking about Engel, Adam, right? I am excited about his prospect status, and will point out again that Stoltz compared his athleticism to Mike Trout. Hopefully he sees Double A soon. http://www.gocards.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/engel_adam00.html He definitely has the neck to match him. That said, he's going to have to maintain that 800 OPS until the Carolina League All-Star break in all likelihood. It's quite possible they dump Mitchell, soon, and promote a AA outfielder, creating a vacancy in need of filling....but he's (Adam) only had around 150 AB's at High A, and he didn't exactly light Kannapolis on fire (he had a "solid" season there, but far from dominant). Work in progress. That said, his K's seem to be coming down to a more manageable level considering he's hit only 12 homers from Louisville through this minor league season.

Personal attack.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance Passed two teams (CLE and Miami) to pull into 27th place with 23,317 yesterday. Now averaging 20,370. A bit surprised by the numbers in AZ, Houston, Oakland and Minnesota.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...le-scores.shtml We had the same exact record last year after 19 games. 9-10, 4th place, 2 games back (not 3 1/2 - 4).

Allen Craig has fallen off so far they're probably willing to do a deal similar to the Angels/Rangers for Josh Hamilton.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) Just hope Joe Morgan keeps his mouth shut. Any Sox fan knows when he gets too confident, bad things ALMOST ALWAYS follow. In 2005, I think everyone was breathing such a sigh of relief to make it and not choke away one of the biggest leads in history that it was just a completely relaxed feeling...so different than all of the past battles with the Twins where you'd want to throw Bobby Jenks or Carlos Gomez off a bridge after a bad loss, or Matt Thornton. It's almost like playing other teams like the Red Sox and Angels allowed them to get into that zone and away from all that Piranha-Mania and Ozzie allowing those guys to get into his head. When expectations start to rise, performance has always suffered...so I tend to just hope for the best and not be surprised by the worst. Pragmatic/realistic. And it's MUCH easier having been through 2005 and also getting married and starting a family. Back then, when you're younger, those games are nearly life and death.

For the record, it was for teams starting off 0-4, not 0-3.

I would be more than happy to come back to this argument in the two weeks before the trade deadline in July. There will be enough of Hawk's sample size to start drawing some real conclusions about this pretty unpredictable team.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:34 PM) THEY ARE 5TH IN THE AL IN ERA AND 4TH IN OPPONENT OPS. They play in a hitter's park. Jesus man, wtf else do you want? And who cares about the NL can't compare the stats no DH. They are upper tier in the AL after being arguably the worst pen in the AL last year. What has the weather been like in April? The ball carries in USCF a lot differently in the summer months (June-August) than April through mid-May and mid to late September. Many of those balls coming up just short at the fence, like the one Melky Cabrera speared, are going to be homers instead.

Well, it should tell you a lot when the Rangers, a team desperate for outfield help...desperate enough to pin their hopes to Josh Hamilton's fading star....that they don't value him very much to let him go for nothing. They already have a similar player in Leonys Martin, and former Ranger Leury Garcia is the infield version of Engel Beltre.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) There it is A Gordon Beckham mention. The Royals drop 2 in a day and Caulfield is in full meltdown. Seriously, this is enough. Please PM Marty or TUC or something. There's no point in even trying to discuss anything in a sane or rational manner with you anymore. Good luck.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 26, 2015 -> 07:27 PM) 11 IP 8 hits 1 run 0 walks 15 strikeouts If the Sox bullpen is as bad as you say, good night Royals. Once, again...hyperbole. I didn't say they were bad...they're above average. But to say they're anything close to "nails" or elite or whatever other adjectives you'd like to throw at their description, that's far from accurate as well. Other than David Robertson, who, exactly is it that you're describing in the bullpen as being "nails"? Maybe Putnam for stretches last year...but we're in 2015 now. Duke had a great stretch last year as well...but that was 2014, and in an entirely different league.