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Two tailor-made DP balls. No hits so far.

More Grandal defensive highlights...

Looking like TB win streak might end tonight against TOR. Yankees at least showed up to play tonight.

Bulls Talk?

2/12 threads at the top... pretty overwhelming. . 167, doing better than Romy and Andrus combined lol.

A lot more than $18. $24 million, $25 million club option which will likely be declined the following year. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/yoan-moncada-16234/

I was just joking because it originally said White owner... I know I know typo.

Cliff Floyd and Curtis Granderson, come on down. Charlie Tilson...you've still got a shot. (Cue Phil Rogers article on Solak.)

Kopech?

Due to O's/Rutschman/Grayson Rodriguez fans? "Clevinger is 4-1 with a 3.69 ERA in six career starts against the Orioles, with 27 strikeouts in 31 2/3 innings." https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/batvspitch/_/id/32769/mike-clevinger Current Orioles' hitters 7/35 against Clevinger. James McCann not so good. Mullins 2/2 but he has been struggling mightily out of the gate so far.

This one also made me laugh about the Sox future rotation after Sale/Q and how badly it turned out in terms of passing up Tanaka...ofc the Cubs went with Jon Lester at that time, ultimately. "The White Sox have a bona fide staff ace in Chris Sale to build around moving forward, as he has quickly emerged as one of the best starters in baseball since joining the starting rotation in 2012. The team wisely locked him up with a team-friendly five-year, $32.5 million extension prior to the 2013 season, and he is under team control though 2019, including a pair of option years. Behind Sale, however, the rotation is a question mark in both the short-term and the long-term. Here is a look at the current projected starting rotation to open the 2014 season." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1915340-masahiro-tanaka-is-smart-splash-for-cubs-white-sox-rebuilds Chicago White Sox Projected Opening Day Rotation Player Age 2013 Stats 1. LHP Chris Sale 24 30 GS, 11-14, 3.07 ERA, 226 K, 214.1 IP 2. LHP Jose Quintana 24 33 GS, 9-7, 3.51 ERA, 164 K, 200 IP 3. LHP John Danks 28 22 GS, 4-14, 4.75 ERA, 89 K, 138.1 IP 4. RHP Erik Johnson 24 5 GS, 3-2, 3.25 ERA, 18 K, 27.2 IP 5. RHP Felipe Paulino 30 DNP: Tommy John surgery recovery -. RHP Andre Rienzo 25 10 GS, 2-3, 4.82 ERA, 38 K, 56 IP Baseball Reference

This rings so familiar eight years later... "Terms of the White Sox's offer to Tanaka have not been revealed, but both the length of the contract -- especially for a pitcher -- and the dollar amount are nowhere near in line with White Sox contracts in the past. The team has always balked at long-term deals for pitchers, and the biggest financial commitment they have ever made in a contract was Jose Abreu's $68 million deal earlier this offseason. There is not a high expectation that the White Sox will turn to the next tier of free agents on the market, such as Matt Garza, Ervin Santana (haha, although he was solid for Minny until he got hurt, KW always get his man) and Ubaldo Jimenez. While Tanaka would have cost more than any of those pitchers, his appeal was that he was an extremely rare pitching talent whose prime years still figure to be ahead of him. Garza, Santana and Jimenez are all over 30, and investing long term in any of them figures to be less of a certainty despite the fact that Tanaka has never pitched in the major leagues. That doesn't mean the White Sox aren't looking at the 30-something crowd to fill out a rotation spot. Expect them to pursue a short-term commitment to pitchers bunched in the middle tier of the free-agent class (that sounds more like the Sox)" https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/17948/white-sox-swing-and-miss-with-tanaka

https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-pitcher-logan-webb-reportedly-agree-on-five-year-90-million-extension-155154279.HTML Webb off future FA markets now. Don't forget Clevinger also will more than likely be out as well. When's the last time we seriously bid on a Japanese player/pitcher? Tanaka, right?

Although odds are extremely high he's white...Melody Hobson's presence at least demonstrates proof to the contrary.

O/U on infield errors tonight?

Memories of AJ Reed and sugar plums dancing in our heads...

Look where the Twins went from 2016 to 17. Then 3/4 playoff teams. 101-61 mixed in there. Then two rebuilding the farm system/reloading years (including signing Buxton/Correa)…with the Twins leading the division for well more than half of 2022. Does anyone believe a White Sox teardown in 2023 is going to lead to a team competing for first for 4 1/2 months in 2025 when their entire pitching staff will have to be replaced, essentially?

If Crochet can make it back that fast, so can Chris Paddack.

Don't overanalyze or over think it. Just see the ball and hit the ball.

Reminds me of Carroll, the former Purdue QB/pitcher that everyone was worried about qualifying for his lifetime pension and medical insurance...

I was just watching the new "AIR" movie about Nike and Deloris Jordan... The thing that REALLY struck me was the fact that I could just never imagine Rick Hahn believing in something so much that he would risk his entire career, his position, his family on the type of bet Sonny Vaccaro made on Michael Jordan. I couldn't imagine him pulling all-nighter after all-nighter in week before the draft or right before hosting Machado or Harper...that desire of wearing his heart on his sleeve in the quest for Sox greatness. It's not that he couldn't even give an emotional speech that spoke directly to Sox fans or a future #1 draft pick or free agent target, it's that there's something in his manner that says all the right things but it just lacks the conviction, the belief, that what he believes in is right and good and that he can almost will it into reality in the future by sheer determination. It feels like that's why we come up short on so many important free agent negotiations...in the end, he's representing Jerry Reinsdorf, and there's always going to be a limit to what he's willing to offer because that risk-averse side of the baseball operations execs and Board of Directors will kick in and they'll get lost in all the things that MIGHT go wrong instead of focusing on what COULD go right. There was a point in time that KW once legitimately believed the Sox could win the battle for the city of Chicago with the Cubs...now, it's almost like Hahn is resigned to his fate and playing out the string like a marionette, but any vision of this team BEING great/amazing has disappeared with the morning fog. I just don't and can't believe in Rick Hahn...even to the extent that we placed our faith in the KW who wasn't afraid to hurl over the post-game spread tables to get his point across. An Ozzie and Cora who weren't afraid to haul those players out in the early morning or offdays when they kept making the same mistakes in fundamentals or execution. KW once had that edge, that chip on his shoulder when he was in his 30's and 40's, but he too has lost that burning fire and passion for the team/organization. After almost two decades of Rick Hahn, I still don't have a clue what he actually stands for...whatever it is, it's certainly not excellence. I also don’t get the feeling he has genuinely been desperate for anything in his life, that everything has come way too easily and too quickly without it being earned on the talent evaluation side. He’s always going to be more of a lawyer/negotiator than criss-crossing the continent or flying over oceans to locate the next great Sox player.

Well it would have been a Sox loss 85-90% of the time in that scenario/on the road. Alberto just expedited it... may be saved the bullpen for another day later in the season.

Clevinger just the most recent example of not being ready until Year 2...

Brewers/Rays/Guardians/A's/Twins/Orioles Cardinals/Braves/Blue Jays Dodgers/Giants/Astros Need to find an exec/GM from one of these three tiers... preferably the first grouping. Someone who could conceivably field a competitive team within 3-4 years with a budget of just $100-125 million.

They really took it to the Sox with their speed defensive aggressiveness and not being in the least bit intimidated. Orioles and Guardians play a quite similar style or brand of baseball.