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QUOTE (docsox24 @ May 18, 2012 -> 09:53 AM) Wasn't Beachy, but Minor or Teheran yes. Thanks, doc. I guess the Beachy thing was pure rumor. Castro is at least intriguing - peripherals look better than results at this point.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ May 18, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) When Viciedo was young-young, every team had a shot at him, and he did not command a giant initial contract....thus him developing into a Paulie would be quite the shock down the road. But also not as much was known about him. The market for the Cubans has changed, and is continuing to change. The relative success of Lexi, and specifically the huge bargain that he turned out to be, made money for all of the ones who followed, including DV. Kendry(s) M also had some success. The drastic overpay that Chapman looks to be (though he could still figure it out) probably tempers some of the enthusiasm, and the market will change again when we see what DV, Cespedes, Soler and others do over the long haul. DV's contract was pretty healthy at the time we signed him.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 18, 2012 -> 10:29 AM) I'd say PK is the vast vast vast exception, not the rule. My point is that improvement happens. You and Marty would have traded Matt Kemp two years ago when he was being called a disappointment, not living up to the hype. Whoops!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 18, 2012 -> 07:22 AM) Its amazing how many people want the Sox to totally rebuild but don't have the slightest patience with young players. This. x10,000 The Konerko comparison is as good as any. A few here act like what DV is now is what he will always be, when we've got a guy right under our noses who's STILL evolving/improving in his mid-to-late thirties. But as I said early in the thread, I'm pretty sure Marty is just playing the "genius" card with this idea, trying to be ahead of the curve (sample size be damned), when it's becoming pretty clear that most of us missed badly in our Beckham evaluations.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 17, 2012 -> 06:49 PM) This is the truth. Well, of course all scenarios be should be considered, but the bolded above is the key - How in the HELL do we know what a 23 yo's peak value will be when he could easily be on his way to super-stardom, or irrelevance? Trading him on his first hot-streak will NOT bring the return we seek, and COULD severely limit the upside realized. Given that we have him under control for a good while, t'would be foolhearty, IMO.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2012 -> 06:24 PM) If Doc said it did, there is a good chance it did. Beachy would've been Nnnniiiccceee! For my own sanity, I'm going to believe/pretend it didn't happen.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 17, 2012 -> 06:27 PM) Why would you trade Dayan Viciedo? The best you could hope for is a Viciedo-in-waiting. Exactly, and besides our season of trading assets for pitching prospects was this PAST offseason - whether it works out or not will (and should) determine KW's fate, but it must be given time. Our biggest mess to clean up at this juncture is the offense, and DV could go a long way toward solving this. If Danks pulls his head out of it and Peavy comes back on a discount (big ifs I know), we really don't have a lot of pitching issues. If Peavy goes, that's a lot of coin in the till.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2012 -> 06:17 PM) And I still say let him get hot and then move him. Yeah, we need to make room for all the stud hitters coming up through our system.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 12, 2012 -> 07:45 AM) I just heard yesterday that Dee Gordon is son of every team's former reliever Tom Flash Gordon. Corrected fo accuracy. How are some guys journeymen despite being pretty darn effective throughout long careers? Arthur Rhodes and Dotel also come to mind.

And we can make Reed the unofficial, official closer. Though I won't be upset if they don't make a grand proclamation about it. Imagine, getting your high draft picks in the major league positions you envisioned them in in the first place!

And Keith Law still sucks, after all.

Noone knows what he'll become, we're all speculating here, obviously, but I, for one, believe that he'll be a stud, eventually, and that a thread passing judgement so early is ridiculous. Reminds me of the reporter so eager to be the first to get a scoop, or an opportunity to be the 1st one to make a negative opinion of something or someone, but doesn't have nearly enough damning facts to make much of a case. When Dayan wasn't either suffering from or recovering from his thumb issues last year, he flat out raked. Besides his physical tools, I LOVE his demeanor - it's a relaxed confidence that reminds me a bit of a young Robbie Cano or Manny. I think he has the right approach mentally, and will adjust to overcome his current deficiencies. Time will tell.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 3, 2012 -> 06:23 PM) I've been listening to MLB games via Gameday audio for the last couple of weeks and I forgot how good baseball is on radio. I forgot because Ed Farmer is brutal. He's not a radio guy, he can't paint a picture. I've found the best radio broadcasts consist of one broadcaster at a time and don't do the give and take that Farmer and DJ do. DJ is at least tolerable, but probably better suited for TV. I wish the Sox had a radio broadcaster calling their games instead of Farmer. ______20 + 1 x 10 Beyond brutal, and the terrible, nasal voice is the icing on the turd. Bravo, Marty! If nothing else, Hawk's got a warm, strong and folksy voice.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 3, 2012 -> 07:43 PM) Sox bust ass and Danks give it right away! Danks' giving back runs becoming way too much of a trend.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 3, 2012 -> 11:27 AM) Fukudome and Escobar playing, Morel/Viciedo sitting If Dome can't hit in April, might as well DFA him. I hate that he's taking AB's from DV, regardless of the matchup. I just hope this is a final-or soon-to-be-final chance for him to show something.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 1, 2012 -> 04:15 PM) Scott Merkin ‏ @scottmerkin Rain continues to come down hard here at U.S. Cellular Field. Tarp is on the field Weather's passing soon according to radar. Play ball!

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 10:55 AM) If they won the two games they blew, even with a s***ty offense, the Sox would be 13-9, and I would have taken that. I kind of look at this way as well. We've BLOWN two games and STOLEN zero games thus far, so we're 0-2 in that category. If this evens out, we're 13-9 as Flav said. Of course, it's been my observation that STEALING more games than you BLOW is a frequent trait of winning teams, and the opposite is a frequent trait of losers. Time, and the choice/performance of closers & late inning setup men, will tell.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 21, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Those type of write-ups don't get me excited. I'm a stuff guy. Watching Sale last night and thinking...that was exciting. I think he profiles a lot like Huddy. Time will tell.

Does any team have a better 4/5 than us? Doubtful. Pitching depth just might be our meal ticket to a magical season. Need to see Danks and Floyd step up a bit, and I'll be sold. Many positives currently, including the recent performances of our minor leaguers.

99% of us out-of-towners are stuck with Yank me's / BlowSox, and it's not raining in beantown. Damn.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Apr 21, 2012 -> 09:01 AM) Regions Park has no cameras. Yeah, I saw that the Barons don't participate in the MiLB TV offering. Just all of the IL and PCL teams, with a very small amount of AA coverage. Too bad. Hopefully they'll upgrade the MiLB Gameday info to include the pitch details at some point in the near future.

Molina's night likely done. 102 pitches, 7 IP, 6 hits (4 listed as GB, 1 as a soft fly, 1 a bunt per Gameday: 1 double, 5 singles) 0 runs 1 BB, 5 SO, 9/2 GB/FO. Encouraging.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 20, 2012 -> 07:59 PM) One thing to remember is how big Regents Park actually is... Don't be suprised to see those ERA numbers inflated by at least 0.50 to 1 full run in Charlotte. Plus in Greene, Mitchell and Martinez, more range the defensive ability than our current major league outfield. I'm aware of how pitcher-friendly Regions Park is. Regardless, this is a nice bounceback for NM since the 1st inning of his last start.

Molina cruising. ERA and BAA plummeting. There's hope.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 20, 2012 -> 12:15 PM) Pot jokes on 4/20 Actually, the Sox have quite the smokey team name-wise. Besides the obvious Danks and our colorman, the Stone Pony: Is there a stonier band than Floyd? "Ventura Highway" by America is a bit organic - "Chewing on a piece of grass..." Oh,man I must be wasted, I'm Jones 'n for a Twinkie Sorry fellas.