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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) JA did say something like this after the first day of the draft, to the effect that they don't expect much of anything from Bradley this year except on special teams. He's your prototype project. haha your not supposed to use your EARLY 2nd round pick on a project like that... they should have made a smarter WR choice or a complete diff pick

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic. At least that was how I read it. Its hard to tell who is joking and who isnt when you have people like southsideirish saying stupid crap like that and actually meaning it.. my bad jackie..

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) I should really start using green again. yeah im pretty lost at what your saying here.. haha

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) Yeah, but Az's clearly screwed with Boldin and Fitzgerald. Two 4.5 40 guys who can do nothing besides "catch the ball well" and "run routes well", pfft. How will they ever spread the field? I hope the Bears don't trade Bradley for either one of THOSE guys. I dunno man, Boldin looked outstanding in his rookie PRO BOWL season... Ide give them another year, both healthy, before passing judgement on them being a failing combo..

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 08:00 PM) I think Williams will be a very good receiver, and I agree with most of what you say about him -- but you are forgetting one Larry Fitzgerald, who was kinda a pretty good prospect himself... 58 receptions 780 yards and 8 TD's is pretty solid for a rookie on a team that had like 3or 4 diff QB's start for them last season..

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) until they come up with some sort of ncaa tourney system im not paying attention Playoffs in College Football would be stupid... The Bowl Games are awesome, I dont wanna see some cinderella team make a run in the playoffs.. I like how one loss can f*** your season.. No playoffs... just try to polish up the BCS and were good to go..

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) Oh that's right you weren't around when he was picked. Nevermind, you got on later that night. He said he was the best steal of the 1st 2 rounds. And pretty much had a hardon for him for a good 3 minutes. Oh thats true I did miss the 2nd round, I went to play basketball to kill time before Miami's pick..

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 04:53 PM) I meant to say Kiper nutted all over Bradley, but what does he know I do not recall Kiper nutting on Bradley.. so I dont know about that.. Hard to picture anyone nutting over a player with 34 career catches.. but maybe you saw something I didnt

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) Yep he always loves Bradley and you said he was dumb for that... Never once seen anyone thrilled with Bradley.. everything I have seen has had them question the pick

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 03:23 PM) I think your memory is a little hazy concerning last year's rankings. I read an awful lot of material before the draft, and he was far and away the #2 WR on pretty much everyone's board behind Roy Williams. Reggie Williams was picked to go somewhere around #20, Lee Evans in the latter 3rd of the first round. He was picked to go anywhere between about #6 and #15. The only reason the other two moved up was that Mike wasn't there. Had he played at USC this year, Williams would have been one of the top 3, ranked ahead of Edwards. In fact, Kiper said many times during the draft that he would have been the #1 pick if that had happened. Also, I never said anything about taking Arrington, I wanted us to wait a while to take a power back to complement Jones. Obviously Benson is better than the guys you'd find in the 3rd or 4th, but Williams is better than those guys too, and I'd rather have the significant upgrade at WR than RB given our current personel. I think Jones will be solid if he and the bulk of the line stay healthy. On the other hand, I think our receivers needed another significant threat desperately. lmfao.... Kiper had Mike Williams #1 on his big board... but what does he know.. he only does that stuff FOR A LIVING!!! I forgot irish knows more than him..

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) T R U you really should learn how to argue a point. Nothing that you have stated had any substance to it at all. One catch makes you a franchise receiver? About getting seperation? He has not proven he could even do that in college. In his final game he wasn't even the best receiver on the field. That would have been Keary Colbert. He has proven absolutely nothing and you think he is a franchise receiver? I think you really should not try to make ridiculous "arguments" when what your saying is complete bulls*** that not one person agrees with because (this may shock you) your WRONG! Look at his stats, he was one of the best WRs in the nation when he was at USC.. your just, AGAIN, making stupid arguments prolly cuz you just wanna read your own posts..

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) Which is why I was so happy with the Bills draft :rolly Best pick they had was Everett... I still think they should have taken Justin Miller or a LT with their second pick..

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:11 PM) What bothers me is that someone thinks that Crede wanted to get hit by the pitch so he didn't have to have the pressure on him. That is the most irrational stance I've heard in a while. That is what really gets me too.. thats just a flat out dumb statement.. You know, by what your saying.. Last night Jurassic got hit in the ass, why wasnt that a ball? He could have jumped forward and it wouldnt have hit him...

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) The ball was way inside, he didn't lean out over the plate to get hit. Or am I just being unrational here? Thats the dumbest f***ing rule ever.. if the pitch is inside like that you shouldnt be forced to move out of the way.. Its one thing to like lean over the plate to take a questionable pitch.. but if its inside out of the strike zone, I just hate that rule

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) To lean into it and let it hit you on purpose. You aren't going to be scoring any runs. I would think Joe wants to drive in the big runs. It shows me Joe is still lacking a little confidence. Either that, or maybe he just wasn't seeing the ball well of this particular pitcher. He knew he leaned into it. If he was totally confident he wouldn't have said anything and stepped right back up to the plate. Getting on base should be top priority.. now from what I understand there was 2 outs.. I dont get why he is in the wrong from trying to get on base.. I dont see it as he was trying to avoid having to be the guy or how it has anything to do with confidence..

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) There's no doubt Crede went out of his way to get hit. Look at the replay over and over and you cannot conclude anything else. Which brings up another point. Crede was too willing to get the pressure of his shoulders to get something done. For a guy who has several game winning hits in his career, I find that disconcerning. What does that matter... if a ball is thrown inside and im batting I will gladly let it hit me to load the bases up.. Doesnt mean he wants to get the pressure off his shoulders, but as an opportunity to get the bases loaded

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Cedric Benson is much more than a marginal upgrade and Mike Williams is by no means a franchise receiver. By saying potential I could say the same thing about Mark Bradley. Both receivers have the same chance of being franchise WRs. I agree with you on Benson but come on man.. All I have to say is watch the one handed catch he made Vs Michigan in the Rose Bowl.. Mike Williams is a franchise reciever and comparing him to Mark f***ing Bradley should get you laughed off this site

Ok thats enough Jon Garland jokes fellas.. back to the topic :finger

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 11:24 AM) lol oh cmon now, Jordan got away with push offs too. Maybe with one hand as he J'd it in your face

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 06:58 AM) I thought Carl was going to go kick his ass for it too. He sure had a lot to say to whoever would listen after he got hit. But on the other hand, Harden did his business like a pro. He didn't headhunt Carl, instead he plunked him in the middle section of his body, and didn't give him that 97 mph fastball to do it with. Actually I think the pitch was 95-97 range, pretty sure that what I remember seeing the gun at after the ball hit Jurassic right in the ass

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) If only he did that against Detroit 2 seasons ago when we were 3-1 up. That still pisses me off..

two years ago we went to Maryland for Christmas and our neighbor was watching our dogs.. We had a Chow named KC, we had him for at least 11 years.. Well the neighbor didnt put him inside on new years, the fire works scared him and he got through the fence and ran away.. We couldnt find him, I assume he is dead now.. but that was one of the saddest things I had to go through cause like I had had him since I was like 9

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) Meh, I gave them a C. Maybe there is something we don't know about Bradley's ability or Orton's stealness. Orton wont even matter if Grossman works out, but he will be a solid backup..

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) Benson is going to do very, very well here. He is naturally gifted and it will show on Sundays. After having watched his press confrence, I have become a major, major Benson-backer. He's just so happy and relieved to be here and I think it will translate into success in the NFL. NFL teams put a lot of s*** on him because he had dreads and went to UT like Williams.. I didnt really think it was fair, and neither does he.. I think he wants to prove something which can only be good for Da Bears

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) It's not the top speed that is the difference (Scouts inc had 4.55 for Benson, 4.51 for Williams by the way). I'm not that one that buys into 40 times that much because you don't play football in shorts in a T-shirt on a track, you almost never run for 40 yards in a straight line, and no one is trying to rip your head off when you're running the 40. Physically they're pretty much the same, but their running styles are very different. Benson runs over and through guys a lot more, Williams is a lot more elusive. I'm not a fan of getting a 220 pound power back in the high first, that's my main problem with the pick. Most of the really good backs his size like Green and Tomlinson have very good speed to supplement their power. I wouldn't have had a problem if he were our 2nd or 3rd round pick, but when we take him #4 over someone like Williams, I'm not happy. Obviously I could be wrong, but my prediction is that we are going to wish we took Mike Williams. I think if things go well he's going to be somewhat like Eddie George- 2 or 3 good seasons followed by a drop off in production and some nagging injuries. check out this highlight video.. Benson not only doesnt look like one of those straight forward power runners with no moves, he also has quickness and can make some cuts.. hes not as bad as you guys are thinking http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pag...104_benson.html