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Wins mean something when you're Pedro Grifol, praying this first season doesn't result in 100 losses and assuring he'll never manage another MLB team in his life. This is just a matter of self-preservation. And the funny thing is, it's not going to matter. No one will hire him.

At minimum, getting him to the ground asap to get him away from TA. Preferably, via knockout.

Kopech had Ramirez wrapped up. Instead of handling business, he tried to gingerly separate he and TA, which led to TA getting knocked out. Kopech had a responsibility there and failed.

This isn't a playground full of second graders out on recess. This is professional sports. It's an absurdly bad look not to retaliate in a situation where reactions are read as indicators of pride, culture, cohesiveness, and brotherhood. No manager is going to punish his guys for suspensions they may receive while sticking up for their teammates. Outside of, apparently, Pedro Grifol, most managers would applaud such a reaction. And TA didn't start that s%*#, Ramirez's soft ass started it. TA didn't stand over him long enough for Jose to get in his feels about it. Then he poked his finger right in TA's grill. It's game on at that point. I'm not a violent person and don't condone violence or fighting, in general. Sports are different...teammates are closer to family. Again, brotherhood. If my real-life brother were involved in a brawl, I'm going to be right there beside him serving pain to whomever I can. I'd do the same for a teammate.

My man looked like he'd seen a ghost. Accountability can be a beautiful thing.

What will be interesting is watching them tie themselves into knots trying to dismiss or minimize the rumors.

Any ideas where an out-of-towner may be able to catch this?

Mike Vrabel, who is one hell of an NFL coach and was one hell of an NFL player, says that he's hardest on his most talented and valuable players. Not only does that prove to the roster that Vrabs doesn't play favorites, it also shows the top dogs respecting the head coach. Next thing you know, a young guy gets out of line, Vrabs doesn't even need to worry about it....his vets, and most of the roster, will take care of the problem on their own. Making meetings, doing your work, not sleeping on the job, hustling, etc....these aren't difficult rules to follow. I think Kenyan's point about the shaving was that the attention to detail was indicative of a proud franchise and culture. Clearly, all of these basic duties went out the window under TLR. No one was held accountable. Why would the culture change?

It was, which is all the more frustrating. Jerry took Rick to the Dollar General to spend his allowance instead of Game Stop, where Rick wanted to go.

Why is he the "exact type of player you want" on this team? We're going to suck. Gio can be a dominant, top of the rotation kind of pitcher....but he can also suck ass. Should a rebuilding team be throwing $25-30M a year at a SP who will be 2-3 years into the extension before the roster is even close to being ready to compete? I can't believe folks are actually arguing that he should have been resigned. A different team with a different owner? Sure, maybe it's the right choice. But we're the White Sox and we have Jerry fucking Reinsdorf as an owner. An owner who has yet to sign ANY PLAYER to a 9 figure salary...not even 80% of a 9 figure salary. Time to accept who we root for and adjust your expectations.

Except he seemed to have forgotten Quero's name, requiring him to look down at his notes.

Better than my usual 3 mins ?

Score was 7-2 when I stepped away to hang out the wife. Came back and it's 8-7 Cubs in less than 20-30 mins. What the actual f***? This team is one to remember!

Science has come a long way since Crede days. Granted, it all depends on what the exact issue he's having with his back but there are options, For instance, fusing was a common procedure but now, given certain conditions are met, they have an alternative to fusion available. A guy who works for me has a very bad back and is going through this stage now, trying to determine the correct treatment. He was just telling me the other day how the older doctors he goes to offer him older options. He's now seeing a much younger doctor who is up on all the new options and has had great success with his patients. TL;DR - Back issues aren't necessarily the death knell to an athlete's career the way they were 15-20 years go.

Yeah, tickets aren't cheap at Truist and I can't imagine sitting in this stifling heat for 2-3 hours in the afternoon. We're skipping today's game, too.

Dad and brother are down and we chose this game to go to. Not sure why as, with Strider on the mound, this looked like a sure-fire loss. Shocked we walked away with a win. Acuna is just plain electric as a ballplayer. Good game all around. If y'all haven't been to Truist park, it should be on your list of spots to hit. Great atmosphere, friendly (and large) crowd, good sightlines.

In our "window"? Ya'll woulda been calling for his head. I would've been, too.

? Yeah, not like he's buddies with guys both on the roster and guys who have left the team. I'm sure they never talk.

We've never signed a player to a $100M contract. Never. Not even $80M. With these sorts of constraints, which positions on the diamond can you get the most bang for your buck using smaller contracts? You're not getting impact position players. You're not getting badass SP. The ONLY position on the diamond where you can still get elite-level players for <$20M/yr, and on shorter term deals, is RP. I think Hahn sucks and needs to go. But I understand why he loaded up on BP arms.

Because saber is doing us so good now? The rumors of clubhouse turmoil/indifference have been running rampant for the last few years, basically since Ricky was fired. This team doesn't need fucking saber, they need leadership, accountability, benchings for poor effort, insistence on playing if you're just a lil' sore, etc. Ozzie, for all his faults, is THAT guy. Not to mention, if you listen to the pod, it's some of the Latino players who are least invested....Ozzie would be in their asses.

To use Chuck's phrasing, the Sox "have lost Moncada". In context, I took it to mean he wants nothing to do with the team, doesn't try in the least, and seemed to be hinting at him being a clubhouse cancer. They had similar comments regarding Eloy.

Their point, and one I agree with, wasn't just what Harper's numbers would bring to the team. They believe that he's precisely the kind of player who could have come in and held every teammate accountable....ride them, hard. They also intimated, as with other deals, that Hahn is trying to GM with one hand tied behind his back. Everything they've heard points to him being essentially neutered as a GM. We saw this in FULL public view when TLR was hired.

He looks like a Japanese-style hitter to my eyes...that sort of drift out of the box during the swing.

I don’t hate it. LHB with patience and pop, can slide into 2B. College hitter relying less on Sox developmental insufficiencies.