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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:07 AM) I don't know what your schedule is, but just randomly choosing departing 1/9 and returning 1/16, you can get Wanna Get Away nonstop fares for about $180 each way from Midway to Phoenix. You wouldn't have bag fees like some other airlines charge, either. Well, even still, that's $360 versus the $99 I could get by doing some combination of Spirit/Frontier/Delta/United/American Airlines. From what I've read, I get 1 free carry on at Spirit, and 1 checked bag is like $26. I'm a very light traveler.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) Sorry my comps bother you so much. I suppose you are correct and this guy is a stud, and will get a boatload of money. My point is you can't just point to an older player who had success as a reason to discount other players who have had success. I see it all the time and it's weak.

Hard to believe the Reds didn't know anything about this. I wonder if it's the main reason they've been so vocal about moving him ASAP.

I'm going to have to scan through this thread tomorrow when I have more time, but I am going to be flying to Arizona sometime in January, and I have no idea what I'm doing. I haven't flown in like 7 years, and I've definitely never flown by myself before. I know I am going to be so stressed out. Anyone got tips for sites to use to find a flight? Or airlines to use/avoid? Orbitz seems to have the best prices. I see I could take Spirit one way, and American/United on the way back, graveyard times, for $99 nonstop. But flying Spirit kind of scares me, as I have heard a lot of bad things. And for a 4 hour flight, I would hate it to be an awful, uncomfortable experience. From basic reviews I've read, it seems SouthWest has the best ratings. But of course, SW flights are 3-4x the price. I want to stay under $200, and non-stop if I can since it's less of a chance I f*** up something at the airport by making a stop. lol.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 01:36 AM) That was 1999, I was 6 lol. I am not a Star Wars fan and probably have only seen one of the movies but can't remember it at all. It is amazing how much hype and excitement there is for this movie. I mean, I'm just guessing. But I would guess Episode 1 or maybe one of the Harry Potter movies? It has to be a movie that either had a book series or had a big gap between movies in the series. People generally don't freak out and buy tickets months in advance for a new franchise or random lone movie.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 12:54 AM) How many records is this movie going to break? Has there been another movie with such excitement/hype to it? Star Wars Episode 1?

That would be a STEAL for the Cubs. Baez is such a lottery ticket at this point, you'd have to get another piece or two along with him for Miller, especially if the Dbacks are truly hot on his trail. No way Baez alone would beat something the Dbacks put together.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 08:55 PM) Chapman may have just thrown a wrench into the works, domestic incident at his house where he allegedly fired 8 gunshots and choked his girlfriend He threw a wrench at her too? Dear god.

Thank you.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 11:19 PM) Winter Meetings seem dead. What's funny is, whenever they predict a lot of activity, it's usually dead. When they don't predict anything, that's when trades happen. MLBTradeRumors has been updating the same story with very little throughout the day. It's only Day 1 of 4. Things will pick-up, I promise you.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 11:15 PM) So no new rumors tonight? I don't know...wish we had a catch-all thread for rumors....

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) You guys really struggle with the concept of no catch alls. Because it's a dumb concept that most people here don't agree with.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 12:05 AM) He's pretty connected with the White Sox organization obviously from the news we've seen him break over the years. I doubt that it's just a guess based on zero evidence or no talk. Examples?

I don't know if this thread if allowed or not. If not, I guess delete it. But I thought this might be a helpful place to put just Day ONE information that we hear on twitter or MLB Network, or just theorize stuff. Just so people know where all the new info from just Monday's Winter Meetings are and not have to look through, for instance, the Zobrist thread to find new info from the winter meetings. Last year on Day 1, Rick Hahn blew our unworthy minds. Let's see how Slick Rick kicks things off in Nashville!

QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 11:45 PM) 100% behind them going after Upton. Sox need impact bats, and the only way you're gonna get em is if you either A. Trade Sale/Q B. Trade some top prospects or C. Make a move like this. C. To me is the best route, especially when they would still have 2 picks in the top 50. Hypothetically speaking, would you trade Spencer Adams for Justin Upton straight up? And that's kind of how I am looking at it. What are the odds a comp round pick is going to become a 3-4 WAR player for a couple years? Incredibly, incredibly small. It's not like we are trading a top prospect for Upton. The guy we draft at #26-#29 may end up never even becoming a top prospect. Keon Barnum was a 1st RD comp pick in 2012. Where is he now? I love the idea of 2 picks in the top 30, but we aren't in a full rebuild mode. We have a window now and we need to utilize it.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:19 PM) No. Yes, actually. Instead of 12 months, it's 6 months.

Cespedes would be a much better option due to defensive value and lack of pick compensation, but for those reasons he will come at a higher price as well. I could see 6/$150 for him, honestly.

I get not wanting to lose the draft pick, as that would be a downer. But the Sox want to try to utilize their window during the current primes of Abreu and Sale and Quintana. These guys are amazing RIGHT NOW. They may be peaking now and not be as good 4 years from now when that 2016 draft pick would be contributing to the team. Upton was a 3.6 WAR player in a huge pitcher's park. He was a 4 WAR player in 2014, and he has been a 6 WAR player in the past. This dude just turned 28 a few months ago. He has probably 3 or 4 more years of really quality baseball left in him. Sluggers don't typically hit the market at age 28. Fangraphs crowdsourced him at 6 yrs/$120M. That's fair value for a 3-4 WAR player. And remember, whatever amount of years you would want to give a player, add another year if he's a FA. If the Sox sign him, expect it for 6/$120-125M or even 7 yrs/$135 or something with that 7th year being an option.

The Show 16 trailer came out today. Looks like they did something new with fielding, and possibly hitting mechanics. Josh Donaldson on the cover.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) A little long in the tooth. Iguchi put up a .903 OPS in Japan in 2013 as a 38 year old. If he is reasonably cheap, he is probably a better choice than David Freese. Bartolo Colon has pitched very well in to his early 40's, therefore pitchers in the U.S. must not be that good.

Good thing they saved that $10M on Arroyo to give Touki Toussiant away to Atlanta, AMIRITE?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 01:07 AM) Agree with both of ya. I also think now is the time to move Sale if you have a a crazy package. I prefer Q of the two. If I move Sale, I move Q also. Load up on young talent. I don't agree with moving Sale because no team is willing to give up the value he is worth. You could hold on to Sale and trade him with 2 years left on his deal and STILL get an enormous package for him, while giving your team 2 more years of trying to contend. The reason I am an advocate of moving Quintana is because I feel someone may actually pay for what Q is worth, and this team will STILL have it's ace. You trade your perennial Cy Young contending ace, and you are punting on the near future. You move Quintana, and you can still have a solid rotation if you replace him with a FA pitcher and Rodon continues to make strides, while using the return package for Quintana to upgrade offensive/defensive needs and still contending for the next couple years. THEN, if the team is still treading water, trade Sale with 2 years remaining and you'll still get a kings ransom in return.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 12:33 AM) Because Greinke and Price just upped Sale's value. You have a proven ace that's on the most team friendly deal in baseball. So suddenly the Sox are going to take let's say.... Crawford as dead weight and more expensive than Sale. Puig on a down year with attitude issues. Pederson who faltered down the stretch. And Urias, who hasn't seen the bigs. Kyle Drabek once was the centerpiece for Roy Halladay. Mike Olt was a Top 20 prospect in baseball as the centerpiece for Matt Garza. Jacob Turner was an important piece for Anibal Sanchez, who led the league in ERA the following year. Gordon Beckham was a legitimately viable centerpiece for Adrian Gonzalez when A-Gon went on to hit .338 for Boston. That's just people who have been tied to the Sox. Look at Profar for a former #1 overall prospect, can't miss stud who is looking like a miss. Or Jesus Montero. "Can't miss prospects" miss all the time. So if the Sox are dealing the best contract in baseball, they get all the cards. While I do agree with you about prospects missing all the time, they still hold significant value to clubs because of how huge of dividends they can pay if they DO hit. Trading for top prospects is high risk/high reward. It's like saying there is no value in being given $100,000 worth of lottery tickets because the chances of winning the lottery are so slim anyway.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 11:18 PM) We started at pick #33. Cubs and Arizona giving up picks gives us 31. Gotcha. Anyone have a website with this information listed? I'm wondering what the best or most realistic position we could be in. Is it feasible we pick at #10 and #25? I feel like we are still waiting for the Yankees, Dodgers, Angels, Rangers, Cardinals, and Giants to lose a pick.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 10:14 PM) 10, 31, 53 Oh, someone said we had #31 after the Lackey deal, figured we would move up to #30 once the Dbacks lost their 1st RD pick.