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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) I'd rather this indicate that a Alexei for Pisciotty trade is more likely. Cardnals added 2 OFers in this deal. Pisciotty is also behind Tavaras as well. I hope that's the direction Hahn is looking, and not Jon Jay. Yeah, just looking at Jay's numbers, he's not that much of an upgrade from De Aza, and he's arb eligible. Sox need to go younger/ more upside than Jay.

Should we start the Jon Jay to the Sox speculation? Man, he played a brutal OF in the postseason.

The first instinct the voters are going to have is to check Maddux, then Glavine because of the teammate pitching thing, then Frank. I'll predict: Maddux 99.1% Glavine 87.5% Thomas 78.7% They all count as getting in, so I wouldn't complain. But this is the order I expect.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 10:36 AM) If you really believe in their prospects, yes. But the way Hahn has been talking, it's not gonna happen. Sale has probably crossed into the Jerry Reinsdorf Circle of Loyalty anyway. But if the Sox could get a good starting pitching prospect, plus a few other players---and also thought there was a premium starting pitcher they could get at #3 next June, I wouldn't be against it. On the other hand, once you have an ace locked up on good contract, it would be very hard to say goodbye.

Do the Rangers have any package of players that could get the Sox thinking on Chris Sale?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 10:04 AM) Still think it is a better chance he ends up on an AL East team, they could all use him. I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to trading Dunn, but if the Orioles end up trading Chris Davis, and the Sox are willing to eat a bunch of money, maybe Dunn ends up in Baltimore.

If Frank doesn't get in this year it's not because he doesn't deserve to be a "first ballot" guy (which is a ridiculous term---either you are or you are not a hall of famer), it's because of the steroid era guys clogging the ballot, and voters are only allowed to vote for ten players. In a clean baseball world, Clemens and Bonds would have gotten in last year. And probably Bagwell and Piazza. Now, with Maddux and Glavine being added, it's getting ridiculous. I think Frank gets over the 75% mark, but I'll say in the 78-82 range. But overall, I'm tired of the Hall of Fame. It's supposed to be a positive thing for Baseball, and it's all about negativity and who doesn't belong. There's no fun in that.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) Do you remember the Reagan presidency? That's the last time the Royals made the playoffs. I've seen the Royals lose and win a World Series. Now excuse me while I go take my back pill.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 07:25 PM) I honestly don't see us entering the 2014 season with both Ramirez & Beckham on the team. IMO, one of these guys will be traded this offseason. If that happens, Semien will be needed in the middle infield. And quite frankly, I'd rather not use him as a bandaid at 3B if he's going to be a 2B/SS long-term. Let him develop him defensively where he protects to be. I agree. The Sox have numbers at 2B- Semien and Garcia are probably ready, Sanchez and Johnson are close enough, and Elmore as a backup. Something has to give with the middle infield, and I don't see the Sox moving Beckham to 3B.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 07:23 PM) How do the Royals expect people to take them seriously with moves like this? How's that John Danks signing looking for us? I mean, can a Sox fan really point fingers coming off 99 losses?

Frank is on CSN at 5:30. Kinda wish he would let his numbers do the talking over the next couple months before the vote.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 21, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) If they pick up Perez, they would conceivably then need to DFA Flowers opening up another spot. Or they could non-tender him coming up on December 2. Or other players.

It must be fun for Dave Dombrowski to have an owner that pretty much lets him do anything.

Honestly, this deal doesn't impact the White Sox. Until the Sox turn over two-thirds of the lineup, and give a couple other guys some seasons of experience, they're an under .500 team.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 07:40 PM) I hope Fielder vetoes it...if the Tigers aren't sending money to Texas, this is a huge coup for them He already waived his no trade. The league has to approve it for money trading hands.

https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/403330963188367360 um, wow?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 05:21 PM) Maybe, but if Konerko comes back, they probably need someone who can play the infield and the outfield. This could be sprimg training competition for Leury Garcia. Or maybe L Garcia gets traded.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) Good see Thompson and Sanchez. Wonder if Jacobs and Wilkins get added? The beat writers are all tweeting about Sanchez, Thompson, and Elmore, so that's probably it for additions today.

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/403252792615112704 Anybody know anything about Elmore?

https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/403245225176358912 Carlos Sanchez being added. Not sure if this means he's the only one.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) He's a douchebag that handled a stressful situation terribly. Whatever. Doesn't change that fact that his lowest OPS+ ever was 131. If the Brew Crew throw in a bunch of cash and the teams stash it for the end of the deal he is going to make someone very happy. You don't get superstars at a discount for no reason and yes I understand he'll probably have a dip in production. There's a line I don't want the Sox to cross. I didn't like when they got Canseco and Manny. I don't want Braun no matter what. And yes, I'm sure we've all rooted for Sox players that juiced over the years, but I still wouldn't want the Sox to acquire players that have dirty records--especially how Braun's situation developed.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 20, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) I understand where you're coming from as a fan, but I'm continually shocked at how often people on this site value the personal likability of players over winning. I'm not judging you for it, just saying it surprises me. When it's "Konerko deserves to go out on his own terms" or "Santiago is such a great guy", I kinda eye roll those type of things. With Braun, he's a despicable human being. The Brewers gave him his money. They can keep him.

If you care about such things, MLBTR is updating all teams here as they come in... http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/play...man-roster.html

Hell no. Brewers signed him. They can keep him.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 19, 2013 -> 07:08 PM) Rumors! I must have them. Then they won't happen.