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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) The Cardinals are not going to be picking up $14 million in salary this winter. I am going to have to respectfully disagree. The starting pitching market is pretty thin and guys like Westbrook/Garland/Pavano are going to get big money for MULTIPLE years. Plenty of teams (including the Cards)would take Buehrle for only one year at 14,000,000. Now he doesn't have much value, but I wouldn't say it is negative. Come to think of it, isn't there an automatic escalator if MB is traded? That might damper things...

Danks, Danks, Beckham, Mitchell to San Diego - Gonzalez, Ludwick to Chicago. + 8 Million? A multi team deal that nets the Sox Rasmus in exchange for Buehrle, Flowers, Viciedo. -14 Million Sox trade Pierre and $1million for low level garbage prospects. -4 Million Sox sign Miguel Olivo. +4 Million? Sox sign Scott Downs. +5 Million? Sox sign Tony Pena 1.5 Million? Sox let Konerko, AJP, Jenks, Putz walk. -30 Million This makes your 2011 lineup: LF Rasmus SS Ramirez 1B Gonzalez CF Rios RF Ludwick DH Quentin/Teahen 3B Morel C Olivo/Castro 2B Lillibridge/Vizquel Rotation: Peavy Jackson Floyd Sale #### Open? Pen: Thornton Downs Santos Linebrink Pena #### Open? My very rough estimates leave Kenny at least 30 million short of 2010's total budget to spend on a starting pitcher and a couple relievers. This does not count any of the money Manny received or any sort of a raise in spending. ----- Yes, I have run every single fan favorite out of town. Yes, I realize we do not match up well with the Cards. Yes, I realize Peavy and Sale are huge question marks. Yes, I realize our crappy farm system would be even crappier if that is humanly possible. Yes, I realize Ozzie and Miguel would have to kiss and make up. BUT Every single offensive starter would be above average defensively. No offensive player "clogs the bases". Hell, give Cliff Lee $25,000,000 and the rotation would look pretty nice right Pretty nice team IMHO Now back to reality

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Nov 3, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) Without him its an emotionless team You dig WWE?

Here is a fairly fresh thought: Is it possible that Carl Crawford's defensive value is overrated because the Rays played him in Left Field? LF is notoriously the position where old, slow, bad outfielders go to die. Yes, Crawford gets fantastic marks for his defense, but is it partially because he is being compared to the worst of the worst? If Crawford played CF or RF where would he rank? Another tidbit is that Crawford was second to Brett Gardner in UZR (and most defensive statistics), third was Juan Pierre. Now, to my eye Juan had a great year in LF; BUT most everyone here knows that Juan is overall a poor defender. The fifth best LF? Alfonso Soriano! The seventh best LF? Scotty Pods.... Is Crawford really that special of a defender? Or is he just the best of the worst?

QUOTE (since56 @ Sep 13, 2010 -> 06:59 AM) Accept his defense and get behind him. The only thing getting behind Carlos is "low, looping, line drives".

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 12:54 PM) Because the organization wants to stay away from a just a DH, player like Thome who can't play on the field. You make Quentin your DH and when your RF needs a day off you can put Quentin in the outfield. I realize Thome "doesn't" play the field anymore but he could play 1B as good as Quentin can play RF.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 10:43 AM) He's slumping right now, the sky isn't falling. His defense isn't slumping! Even when he is absolutely on fire at the plate Quentin isn't a right fielder.

No news here.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 08:50 AM) Personally I don't want him traded just yet, if he can become our DH and occasionally play LF/RF would be fine with me. I don't understand this logic. If he is not a good enough defender to play a position everyday, why is it acceptable that he just plays there "occasionally"?

What he is: Marcus Thames What he isn't: An everyday Right Fielder What he should be if he returns in 2011: A DH platoon with Mark Teahen and an emergency outfielder, NOT an "Ozzie Platoon" outfielder. What I would try to do if I were KW: Package him for another mid arb year outfielder that can defend their position. Just dreaming here: Ryan Ludwick

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 03:19 AM) Name a prospect that has come back to bite them in the ass. I'm waiting. Chris Young

GIVE ME SOME MORE RAMON!!!

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 5, 2010 -> 03:46 PM) yea and then we hire some other no name manager and he sucks too and were in the same position Great argument.

Choo is better and more valuable than any offensive player in the entire organization.

If I were a GM my closer would always be the best young arm I had. Why let anyone close that you will have to pay 5 - 10 million? I think this "trend" of closers making double and triple what other top relievers earn will come to an end soon, but for the time being I wouldn't let anyone close that wasn't under team control and preferably pre-arbitration.

Am I the only one that remembers how far $4,000,000 would have gone this past off-season? I am not against acquiring Manny and I realize that it would boost jersey/ticket sales but this is just something to think about.

Hawk is driving me nuts.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:11 AM) Jackson CF, Damon LF, Boesch RF, Cabrera 1B, Guillen DH, Peralta 3B, Raburn 2B, Avila C, Santiago SS Thanks.... had to decide between Inge v Garcia or Reynolds v Strasburg; I was going Inge but I guess I'll hope the kid gets rocked again. I can't imagine Reynolds can even touch his curve.

Anyone got a tigers lineup?

Anyone who watches every pitch of every (insert team name here) game is FORCED to agree with the Sabre community. It is the average fan that tunes in to Sportscenter just in time to see Ryan Theriot get the game winning base hit that says: "I don't care what those dorks say about this guy, he is one clutch mother f***er". When you actually watch every pitch of every game you begin to see the aspects that cannot be measured by traditional statistics. Currently I am flat out obsessed with how important defense and park factors are, I can't seem to get past either aspect of the game.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 06:03 PM) Peavy is a bona fide top of the rotation starter and at least 75 percent of the teams in the league would take him from us with no questions asked. No chance. I guarantee he has recently passed waivers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 05:14 PM) Wha? If I was any team that could remotely find a way to squeeze in that salary, I'd jump at that. Beckham might have been an over-exaggeration but how can someone say they would still make the deal today???? 50 million for at the most two years of Peavy post surgery???? And I am not certain that someone would give that 50mil for Gordon....

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 04:42 PM) Already? Disagree. I would make that deal again right now if I could even with Peavy on the DL. You are flat out nuts.... Peavy is only owed $50,000,000!!!!!! Let me put it this way so even the most baseball stupid can understand: There isn't a team in baseball that would take Peavy for a bag of balls, even if you packaged him with Gordon Beckham Factor in that Richard appears to be a bona fide major league baseball player under team control for several years, and that makes your post the worst I have seen on this message board. EVER. I love KW but saying that the Peavy deal is currently a good deal is blind ignorance.

New ballgame!!!!!

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 8, 2010 -> 11:25 PM) If Teahen can wait until Aug 16, then they can 15 day-DL Kotsay with "99 Problems." Fixed.