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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) Smart guy! Wacha's human after all.

Dwight has 17 boards at the half. He might get 30 this game.

Philly back on top with ~20 seconds left.

Miami's winning now.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) Locker or Foles during Peytons bye? The guy who's not coming off a concussion.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:28 PM) I hope you all realize the entire last 4 pages or so happened because a few people decided to s*** on me for no reason for saying I thought the IR blaster in my phone was cool. Never said my phone invented the technology, never said it is the only phone to do it, and never said a damn thing about iPhones not being able to do it (which I had no idea if they could or couldn't, because I couldn't care less either way). Just said I thought it was cool. Basically what I've learned here is I need to be super jaded about technology and not be impressed by anything, because god forbid someone else has used this technology before me, I will be criticized for being out of date and easily impressed and thought of as a kid. Duly noted. Some of the things you've said before (in this thread particularly) make it easy for them to pick on you. That being said, picking on you because you liked the IR blaster on your phone was uncalled for.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:16 PM) Only Android phones. Because iPhones are too small.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:14 PM) Phones can do THAT now too? Have you seen the size of the HTC One Max? That thing will shatter your testicles if you give it to the wrong person.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) Oh I do ignore a lot of the posts...and I also take a few playful jabs at some of you guys for being such phone geeks...you respond by saying I am being condescending or that I am jealous that my iPhone can't turn on someone else's projector or something... It's no big deal...just explaining why it is that I was jabbing at some of you in the first place. You do know that I was just busting your balls right?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) Now you're taking my comments out of context. I'll say this...you make a fair point about this being a technology thread. However, I come to this thread mostly to see links about various products in the marketplace. I also enjoy hearing peoples' comments and reviews about these various products. At some point, this thread devolved into a pissing match between Apple and Android products, which has, in turn, devolved into a who has the biggest dick contest relative to technology know-how. I certainly respect that some of you have technology backgrounds and I never meant to disparage any of you for that. However, I will say that, in general, most technology consumers don't have the slightest clue (nor do they care) about many of the nuanced discussions about technology features present here. That doesn't make your discussions worthless by any measure, however, it does drastically reduce the size of their audience to those folks who have a career in technology or to those folks who have an extensive knowledge of technology. IMHO, that was NOT what this thread was intended to be, nor why it was started. It's quite easy to ignore the posts you don't understand or care about. I don't see anything wrong with delving deeper into the subject. If you want, there's always the option of splitting this into two threads.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) I understand exactly why they're hanging on to IR, it's because like I said, it allows them to make remote controls (and sell them). The proliferation of phones/tablets with WiFi/BT capabilities would render the remote control business obsolete almost overnight. But this is why if Apple (or Google) enters the TV industry, they will get credited with using WiFi or BT to "invisibly control" their televisions/receivers from any device they own, even remotely, and it will get called "revolutionary", when it something Samsung could have implemented a long time ago...and given how prolific their own phones/tablets are, I'm surprised they haven't thought of this. Nope, they'll wait for Apple to do it, then do it themselves and wonder why people call them copycats. Already done: http://www.samsung.com/us/article/turn-you...e-possibilities

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:27 AM) That's the part you are missing. I don't WANT a remote. I want the OPTION. For the people that don't already have a tablet or phone that uses WiFi/BT, they can use the crappy remote the TV comes with. But for the majority of the rest of us, we could use our phones to accomplish this, without needing to set up our entertainment centers with LOS in mind. Fair point.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:23 AM) The point is, you are ALREADY connected to that WiFi network and/or have BT enabled on your phone...so this is irrelevant. And on the other end of that connection, if your TV is off, it's drawing no power anyway. Then you'd basically have to require people to have a smartphone or tablet to use their TV. Because a remote that is constantly connected via WiFi or Bluetooth will die pretty quickly.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) This is where we differ in opinion. IR does not do the job just fine, it DID the job just fine at one point, but not anymore. I'd love to be able to enclose my ENTIRE entertainment center, so it's completely hidden from view/not taking up space, without requiring any sort of line of site to use, which is something IR cannot do. A simple implementation of BT or WiFi accomplishes this. BT and WiFi, unlike NFC, are already everywhere...the reason these manufactures don't want to kill IR is because they want to sell universal remotes, and they know a lot of devices don't come with IR. Once they move to WiFi/BT, they realize everyone will be able to use their phones/tablets to accomplish these tasks, in an even better way, and then they have to close down their entire s***ty remote control divisions. You can't make a remote with NFC, it wouldn't make any sense. It's a close range technology. Bluetooth can also have range issues. If you want a bluetooth or WiFi enabled remote, be prepared to charge/change batteries often.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) They won't be, though. Just because most TV manufactures are lazy and hang on to an aged technology doesn't mean we should embrace it, but rather, we should push them toward using something BETTER. BT OR WIFI could do that same job these days, only better, and with LESS power consumption. How often do we have to worry about the placement of our remote devices because they require IR? I know I have to sometimes sit up and point my remote directly at something for it to work, and that's with a Logitech universal...why is this still necessary in 2013? It's a dream in comparison controlling my AppleTV with my phone, which doesn't require LOS, or me sitting in a specific position to do it. I don't even have to have my AppleTV visible to use it ... it'd be REAL nice in 2013 if I could enclose my entertainment center and only show the TV, but I can't, because a few of the devices require f***ing IR...STILL. Same with controlling my Nest thermostat...it's really nice being able to remote control my AC/Heat when I'm not even home. Why does seem like Apple will have to come out with a TV that uses WiFi or BT (they will), in order for other TV manufactures to do it? It's time to dump IR, BEFORE it takes newcomer Apple to show them the way and get credited with doing something "revolutionary" that they should have done a long damn time ago. IR doesn't require a constant connection. It actually uses less power. I'm not sure about Bluetooth LE vs. IR in terms of power draw, but I'm fairly certain WiFi will use way more power than IR.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:04 AM) The first time I saw anyone mess with a bar's tv was with a wristwatch universal remote circa 1990. I figured that ran it's course during the last century. But everything old is new again. And what's with the cracks about "adults" and how they use their phones? Just responding to shack's condescending comments. Apparently, I'm not 'normal' and neither are most people in this thread.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) I'm not really taking a crack at adults and how they use their phones, since I am one...I just think there is a sect of the younger crowd that cares how much their phone can do, even if they don't actually do those things other than to show people they can. This is how CHW comes across to me...he can do remote IR, NFC, etc., but never actually uses the functions other than to brag that he can and to make fun of people with iPhones, since their phones CAN'T do those things, that means their phone sucks, and they suck for buying it...even though it does everything they actually want it for. Well it looks like my job is done here. BTW, I don't own a phone with an IR port. But if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't use my TV remote much.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:50 AM) That sound your hearing in the background is the sound of losing on the price is right. All of Apples ecosystem works via wifi, so there is no need for IR anymore, though some of their devices still have some remnants of it leftover. That said, Apple has a track record of getting rid of older tech faster than anyone else. They were one of the first to lose the floppy, and now they're one of the first to discard optical, too. I see IR in that same arena...a useful technology that's been superseded by an even better one. Yes, there will be hangers on to older technology, but for the most part, everyones catching on. On a serious note (I hope you've noticed that I haven't been serious for the past 20 min), almost every TV still uses IR. Nobody uses a floppy anymore. Can manufacturers make a TV that uses bluetooth instead? Yeah, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them considering IR does the job just fine.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:49 AM) Well, he's right, most adults don't. All they care is whatever phone they have does the very few things they use it to do, which is almost primarily text. So long as it does that, they don't care. Most of the people I know with iPhones or Androids (top end models), do nothing but text or make calls...all the rest of what the device is capable of they don't know, and don't care about. I don't view adults in their late 30s as normal people.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:50 AM) That sound your hearing in the background is the sound of losing on the price is right. All of Apples ecosystem works via wifi, so there is no need for IR anymore, though some of their devices still have some remnants of it leftover. Yeah, cause screw things like NFC. There's WiFi everywhere!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) No, we really aren't. God I cannot wait for that 30 second commercial spot about how revolutionary the iPhone IR blaster is.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:46 AM) And one of the major tools used in modern journalism is computers/phones, so being informed on the tools you use will probably be beneficial. What you are saying is it's ok for them to be ignorant about the things they will HAVE to use in order to do what they're studying to do...and um, well, it's not ok. Well, according to shack, 'normal' people don't care about things like phones.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) Yet they go to a school to learn a trade that uses nothing but technology. That's like going to school to be a mechanic but not caring about cars. Joe's majoring in journalism...not computer science.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 08:07 AM) Apparently, your school is state of the art, but the students that attend it are anything but since IR amazes them. They're 'normal' people, they don't care or know about technology. Especially not technology in a phone, that's just way too abnormal for them.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 12:50 AM) Yeah, and maps have existed pretty much since the dawn of civilization, so the fact that we have them in our phones is no major feat at all I guess. How do you not understand that having something exist, and having something exist inside of a cell phone are different things? I think it's stupid that this somehow is bothering a few of you, as if I had been proclaiming I invented this myself. They're only saying these things because it's not a feature on the iPhone.