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Go get Thornton Robin. He's gonna get killed by Beltre.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 09:48 PM) That was a joke, Jones threw 4 or 5 strikes there. This ump is f***ing terrible. 3 of the balls he called on Jones were strikes at the bottom of the zone according to Pitch f/x. His zone is horribly inconsistent. The walk Sale gave up to Torrealba was also a joke. Ball 4 was definitely a strike. As was ball 3.

Come on Nate...you had Andrus down 1-2.

ADA is always getting into incidents where it looks like he breaks his leg.

Is anyone a little concerned at Sale's lack of velocity?

Chris Sale is good.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) Vargas + League is a nice package regardless of what happens with the pursuit of an ace. 3? years team control of Humber has to be at least somewhat appealing for Z in Seattle, provided a couple nice prospects finished out the package. Humber is a change of scenery guy who could maybe get his confidence back by returning to a low expectation, non-contending situation and doing so in a pitcher's park. Humber + Mitchell/Thompson is a potentially great deal for Seattle given that the players they would be acquiring have higher ceilings than the players they'd be trading and also would be controllable for longer. And if it's me I'd throw in a lil extra to just to keep Mitchell and ditch Joe Borchard Jr. Humber would be appealing if he pitched against the Mariners all the time. Unfortunately, if Jack Z gets Humber, he will never get to pitch against the Mariners.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 04:43 PM) I don't think we will be seeing Danks until feb.. That might be a good thing. The last thing we need is for him to really f*** up the shoulder and not pitch for another year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) Supposedly he's had a falling out with their pitching coach. Also, he's going to make 20 million or so the next two years, which is a lot for a team with Tampa's payroll. And the final reason is that Tampa wants to be able to use him as trade bait to bring in more talent. Considering Tampa's view on relievers, I can't see them viewing Reed as the prize return in a trade. He's most likely going to get traded. Tampa considers him expensive. He hasn't been good this year despite decent peripherals. I honestly don't think we should trade Reed for Tampa and Tampa would think the same. We don't have any real catching prospects to give them, the only guy I can think of is Phegley and he's not very highly regarded.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 04:22 PM) The very fact that the Angels offered a bench player (Peter Bourjos) straight up for Shields not only hints at the perceived market value, it also indicates he could probably be had for one of our young pen arms (hope for Jones, settle for Reed), a decent spect like Mitchell, and then a low-level spect. That's just my opinion. There's no f***ing way we should trade Reed for Shields. Jones and Mitchell, maybe.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter Bud Selig says on "The Mike Lupica Show" he will expand instant replay to include trapped balls in the outfield & balls hit down the line. Could be a Diamond Club thread but I figured it was relevant enough for PHT. They should also expand it to calls at bases. When that's done, I'll be satisfied with instant replay in baseball.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) What would it take to get Shields? Would Viciedo or Reed be involved? I don't believe so. Shields is having a bad year. His ERA is 4.5. His value can't be that high right now. That being said, his peripherals are still decent and I'd like to have him as a 4th or 5th starter.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:14 AM) There's nothing to be learned from a 3 start sample size. That ERA is completely irrelevant. Understatement of the century? That would be like saying Beckham is kind of like Chase Utley, only without the talent. C'mon now. Fine. He's a lot like Javier Vazquez, but with much much much better stuff. Happy now? Greinke has this ability to give up a flurry of runs in one or two innings once in a while. Otherwise, he's fairly dominant. I would rather have somebody that was a bit more consistent though. Is there a chance we get Shaun Marcum? I know he's hurt, but he'd come a hell of a lot cheaper.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:11 AM) I don't mind giving up Jones for Greinke but not Reed Yeah, I'd give up Jones as the main piece in a split second. But Reed is far more valuable than some view him on this forum. His ERA may be around 4, but his peripherals point to a guy who is an elite closer, as does his stuff. Elite closer for 5 years > elite starter for 10 starts. Besides, do any of you really trust Brett Myers as our closer for the rest of the year? I don't.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) I want Google Fiber. That's so worth it.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:09 AM) Ugh, please KW, stop this fascination right meow. It's definitely not worth giving up your closer of the future for a rental. 10 starts vs. 5 years...you do the math.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 11:08 AM) BTW, Greinke had a 6.48 ERA in 3 postseason starts last year. He's kind of like Gavin Floyd, but with much much better stuff.

Great game by the Indians. That 7th inning must have been awesome. It's not often you get 4 runs off Verlander.

Tigers lose!

Ump screwed up the call at 1B on a double play. Game still going. If Berry somehow gets on, Cabrera will be up. This could be bad.

Lilli's back to his pre 2011 self again. Can't hit anything, even fastballs.

Pestano with a 1-2-3. Perez will have at least a 2 run lead.

Verlander implodes in 7th.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 01:16 PM) That all started with trying to fill a hole at 3rd. The inability of Josh Fields, over paying Teahan, makes me think the Sox should make every effort to sign Youk. God, it's been 3 years since we trade for him and people still can't spell Teahen right?

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 25, 2012 -> 09:23 PM) Rios quietly having a career year. I thought this was the case in 2010 too. But by this time in 2010, Rios was starting to struggle. He stopped pulling the ball and started hitting weak grounders up the middle most of the time.