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QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 09:57 PM) I bought mlb.com so we better go .500. I like the projection in this thread. FYI: My radio listening tonight was JT The Brick. Oddly I gladly heard somebody supporting my controversial position AGAINST tanking. He was furious and said pretty much what gets me in trouble on here. He said owners like Cuban should give money back to the fans if they admit tanking or it is obvious. He said sports are in great danger if teams disrespect the sport by tanking. He ripped the Sixers and he ripped the Astros saying their organization should not deserve credit for building a winner. He said they built a winner by tanking and getting tons of draft picks. Finally he said he realized fans embraced tanking and it is very dangerous to the integrity of sports to build teams that way. He said as a kid if the Yankees stunk they stunk. They didn't tank. He's a Yankee fan. Not sure who he is but he sounds like an idiot
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I'm pretty confident in saying that the White Sox won't be forfeiting the 45th pick and $2 million in draft capital to sign Mike Moustakas.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 08:34 AM) They’ll need the pen even more with Kopech and Hansen...to protect them as much as possible. I don't think we see Hansen this year and most of the bullpen will be traded by the time Kopech is in Chicago
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QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 11:32 PM) If anyone was wondering what we did with our remaining international money, we have signed 5 guys since the beginning of February that I think are all international amateurs. Jose Rodriguez SS 16 years old Johnabiell Laureano CF 17 years old Francisco Benitez RHP 17 years old Luis Rodriguez RHP 17 years old Jesus Rondon RHP 18 years old Interesting. White Sox only had $500K remaining.
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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports
Y2Jimmy0 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 17, 2018 -> 11:14 PM) https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-padres-sig...-045527963.html $144 million...first $100+ mill deal in franchise history. $18 million aav, less than Carlos Santana at $20 million. Wil Myers at $83 million was record holder until Saturday. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports...0216-story.html He's actually getting a 5 years $105 million deal and then 3 player options totaling $39. -
Eric Hosmer signed an 8 year deal with the San Diego Padres. The Padres will forfeit their 3rd selection (2nd round) and the Royals get a comp pick after 1st round for losing Hosmer. Nothing below changes for White Sox. Moustakas, Holland, Arrieta, Cobb and Lynn are the remaining free agents with compensation attached 1. Tigers 2. Giants 3. Phillies 4. White Sox 5. Reds 6. Mets 7. Padres 8. Braves 9. Athletics 10. Pirates 11. Orioles 12. Jays 13. Marlins 14. Mariners 15. Rangers 16. Rays 17. Angels 18. Royals 19. Twins 20. Twins 21. Brewers 22. Rockies 23. Yankees 24. Cubs 25. Diamondbacks 26. Red Sox 27. Nationals 28. Astros 29. Indians 30. Dodgers 31. Rays (Alex Cobb) 32. Royals (Eric Hosmer) 33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain) 34. Royals (Mike Moustakas) 35. Rockies (Greg Holland) 36. Indians (Carlos Santana) Competitive Balance Round A 37. Pirates 38. Rays (Comp, failure to sign Rasmusses) 39. Orioles 40. Padres 41. Diamondbacks 42. Royals 43. Indians 44. Rockies 45. Cardinals 2nd Round 46. Tigers 47. Giants 48. White Sox
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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 09:07 AM) Law's top 30 draft prospects up. Insider only. http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/post/_/...draft-prospects Keith Law top 30 usually looks very different than other publications and it's no different this time: 1. Ethan Hankins RHP HS GA 2. Casey Mize RHP Auburn 3. Travis Swaggerty OF South Florida 4. Nolan Gorman 3B HS AZ 5. Matthew Liberatore LHP HS AZ 6. Griffin Conine OF Duke 7. Logan Gilbert RHP Stetson 8. Kumar Rocker RHP GA 9. Jake McCarthy OF Virginia 10. Ryan Rolison LHP Ole Miss 11. Jackson Kowar RHP Florida 12. Carter Stewart RHP HS FL 13. Shane McClanahan LHP South Florida 14. Nander de Sedas SS HS FL 15. Jarred Kelenic OF HS WI 16. Steele Walker OF Oklahoma 17. Seth Beer OF Clemson 18. Nick Madrigal 2B Oregon State 19. Will Banfield C HS GA 20. Brice Turang SS HS CA 21. Cole Wilcox RHP HS GA 22. Brady Singer RHP Florida 23. Tristan Pompey OF Kentucky 24. Tim Cate LHP UConn 25. Jeremy Eierman SS Missouri State 26. Mason Denaburg RHP HS FL 27. Tristan Casas 1B HS FL 28. Cole Winn RHP HS CA 29. Konnor Pilkington LHP Mississippi State 30. Joey Bart C Georgia Tech
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QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 15, 2018 -> 08:54 AM) I hope so. Seems like this has been a bad decade for #1 overall picks, hasn't it? Kind of. It seems like many of the rebuilding clubs that have picked #1 also have a comp pick and a high 2nd rounder. These teams have been saving $$ with the 1st overall pick in order to allocate funds throughout. It could have something to do with it.
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 06:39 PM) Adolfo coming in at #17 is pretty ridiculous IMO. Check out his power & walk numbers over the last three months of the season, the kid was making some serious progress. Obviously he has work to do on the strikeouts, but there is so much upside here I feel like he should be in the top 12 without question. I agree but he's still pretty far from the majors, has injury concerns, and plate discipline issues in the manner of deciding which pitches to drive and which pitches he should lay off of due to making soft contact. That last part was in the handbook.
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As far as Zavala goes: they mention that Sox have him on a program to add strength and weight because he loses a ton of weight in season. He also altered swing path to get ahigher launch angle. They note that he has power and an all fields approach, fringy but playable defense, fringe average arm. They say his ceiling is offensive minded backup catcher. Call: probably ends up in left but profiles as an extra OF with the chance for me if he hits like he always has They seem to think Cease is most likely a reliever. FWIW, Josh Norris did the list and he saw Sheets a ton at Wake Forest. Could have something to do with the ranking. They gave Sheets a Lucas Duda comp.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 12:41 PM) Some interesting stuff in there. First would be Puckett, I don't anyone else is even close to that high on him. They said "probably a back end starter" but he has a plus changeup and some scouts think he can add more velocity.
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My BA handbook came in the mail last night. The White Sox top 30 is interesting. There are a bunch of relievers and they apparently love the 2017 draft. Sox are ranked as the #4 system in baseball. 1. Eloy Jimenez OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Alec Hansen RHP 4. Luis Robert OF 5. Dane Dunning RHP 6. Zack Collins C 7. Jake Burger 3B 8. Blake Rutherford OF 9. Gavin Sheets 1B 10. Dylan Cease RHP 11. Zack Burdi RHP 12. Spencer Adams RHP 13. Carson Fulmer RHP 14. Luis Gonzalez OF 15. AJ Puckett RHP 16. Jordan Stephens RHP 17. Micker Adolfo OF 18. Luis Alexander Basabe OF 19. Lincoln Henzman RHP 20. Thyago Vieira RHP 21. Alex Call OF 22. Ian Clarkin LHP 23. Ian Hamilton RHP 24. Tyler Johnson RHP 25. Jordan Guerrero LHP 26. Bernardo Flores LHP 27. Tito Polo OF 28. Lenyn Sosa SS 29. Seby Zavala C 30. Connor Walsh RHP 31. Yeyson Yrizarri SS
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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 11:59 AM) There's Mike Moustakas. He hit 38 bombs last year but his OBP and only average defense drag down his WAR.I anticipate a huge hole needing to be filled when the Sox can't outbid everyone of Machado, Donaldson or Arenado and I'm not sure Donaldson would be a good idea at his age or if Machado will decide not to be a SS. Moustakas would fill that LH power void and fill that huge hole at 3rd base. Many here don't like him since we are still supposedly 2 years away from 2020 but even then he will be 31 , Donaldson 34. I have seen people saying Donaldson will age well while but I don't see how anyone can derive that while at the same time dismissing Moustakas. Miore than likely the Sox won't sign Moose and probably take their chances on Yolmer, Davidson, Burger or Machado and Arenado but those options seem far fetched in my mind . I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell the Sox outbid everyone for the huge names out there and unless Davidson can show us way more than he has so far or Yolmer can hit 25 bombs a year 3rd base will be a glaring hole. Mike Moustakas isn't very good and the Sox won't be interested in forfeiting a top 45 draft pick and $2 million in draft bonus pool space to sign him to play for a non-contender. It just doesn't make any sense at this point.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 14, 2018 -> 09:46 AM) My odds. Engel - Even money Garcia -150 Tilson -250 Cordell -300 Field 10:1 Personally I think they WANT Engel to win the job, as his defense is pretty untouchable in general. He is a 75 to 80 defender in CF, and that is a big help to a very young pitching staff. I think it is his job to lose at this point. Hopefully his work in the off season at the plate pays off and he can also hit a respectable amount to still be starting at the end of the year. He was one of the very worst players in baseball last year though. I personally don't even know if he hits well enough to be a 4th OF. He had a 37 wRC+ last year. 37.
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2017-18 official NBA discussion thread
Y2Jimmy0 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 13, 2018 -> 10:11 AM) Lauri had a really strong game in the post. His 3 ball isn't falling right now and it was nice to see them get the ball to them down low. Didn't see the 4th so can't comment on that, but for 1st 3 quarter Lauri played really well. Lavine is explosive and is getting better every night. I truly believe the NBA should find a way to rig the lottery to reward the Bulls. Absolute sick what a lot of teams do. Yes, you can tank and that is fine and good, but going out of your way to sit "healthy" players is just crappy for the sport. I'm a fan of the NBA and what teams are doing is just bad for the league. What those teams are doing is setting themselves up in best way possible to win that next win title whenever it is though. They have no obligation to the league. They have an obligation to their fans. Taking a step back to take two steps forward per se. -
QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 10:46 AM) You know what's really interesting is McDaniel and Longehagen made a point to devalue pitching overall in their top 100, and still ranked Burdi in it. They must really really like his stuff. Eric Longenhagen @longenhagen Following Following @longenhagen More Replying to @FutureSox We decided the stuff was too good to leave him off. @FutureSox Replying to @longenhagen We've seen him hit 102 in person with a devastating SL. No doubt his 2-pitch punch is huge. Just pointing out his ranking as being unusual is all. He's got high end, high leverage reliever ceiling for sure. @longenhagen We think the changeup is also bonkers 0 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
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QUOTE (Dubzinski rules @ Feb 12, 2018 -> 08:22 AM) I'm going to assume that Jones starts the year on the DL and I too think the Sox carry 13 pitchers (8 relievers) in order to protect their young starters. CL- Soria RH SU- Minaya LH SU- Avilan Middle- Cedeno, Infante, Rondon, Farquar, and Gomez They'll need to open 3 spots on the 40 man by pushing Rodon to the 60 day and releasing K. Smith and whichever of Cordell,Tilson, or Palka doensn't make the OD roster. My thoughts are that the Sox will attempt to save as many young pitchers with options at AAA while they try to turn some of the above retreads into tradeable assets. With the plethora of free agents still unsigned I'm guessing that most of their 40 man releases will clear waivers and go to Charlotte. Indications at Soxfest were that Jones is ready to go.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 11, 2018 -> 03:50 PM) Arrieta does - the Cubs will get a pick back if he signs elsewhere. And that's a silly concept anyway. If the Cubs are that worried about a 2nd or 3rd round pick that they're going after a pitcher that they like less, then their priorities are totally screwed up. They went after Darvish because they wanted starting pitching help and they picked the pitcher they preferred. Whatever their reason was, they seriously preferred darvish to Arrieta. Yes they did. I don't think it hurts that they now have 4 picks on Night 1 of the draft.
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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 11, 2018 -> 02:24 PM) I think they just value the extra pick/draft flexibility or something. Darvish doesn't have draft compensation attached to him.
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 11, 2018 -> 06:15 AM) Dodgers have never had problems adding players they wanted despite those tax issues. If they wanted him he would have been there This isn't true. Dodgers need to get under $197 million. They paid the luxury tax last year. By not paying it this year their tax bill resets. They will target players in 2019 free agency (Kershaw, Harper, Machado). They'll be going way over the luxury tax threshold but will only pay a 20% tax on the overage to do so. If they brought back Darvish this year and then spent heavily again next year, they'd be paying a 50% tax on the overage. It truly is about money and not wanting to be over the tax line. Yankees, Nationals and Giants are trying to do the same
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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 11, 2018 -> 03:37 PM) Now that we’re two days away from pitchers & catchers reporting to Spring Training, I thought it would be fun to do some Opening Day roster predictions. We’ll start with the bullpen, which figures to be one of the more interesting areas in terms of competition. The rules are simple: list the guys who will be in our opening day bullpen and what role they will serve (CL, SU, MR, LR). CL: Nate Jones SU: Joakim Soria RHP: Jeanmar Gomez RHP: Juan Minaya RHP: Gregory Infante RHP: Danny Farquhar LHP: Luis Avilan LHP: Xavier Cedeno
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Cumulus Media trying to drop White Sox/Bulls from WLS
Y2Jimmy0 replied to Dick Allen's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Joe Brand who has been the Kane County Cougars PBP guy since 2014 has been added to WGN Weekend Sports lineup as well as former Cubs and Padres broadcaster Andy Masur. I wonder if either of these two guys will be part of White Sox baseball? It would be ideal in my opinion. Have one of them become the PBP guy next to Farmer or DJ as the analyst. The other can be the Pre/Post Game host. I'd love for them to find a young PBP guy for radio broadcast. -
QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 9, 2018 -> 12:27 AM) I mean I'd love for them to bring a bunch of guys on pillow deals guys like Cargo, Morrison, and Tillman. Some people are focused on tanking and sure whatever but you can get better prospects via trade. Plus it's more interesting to watch real MLB players. It's one thing to not sign a veteran stop gap because you are worried about blocking them but are we really worried about blocking Davidson at DH? Moving shields to the bullpen? The Sox don't really care what you or I think is more interesting though. That doesn't matter. They need to find players that could be on their next playoff team that we aren't expecting. Guys like Chris Taylor and Marwin Gonzalez weren't expected. The Sox should be playing Leury, Tilson, Cordell, Palka etc to see if someone is decent and worth keeping around.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 01:58 PM) If the 2nd round pick turns out to be as good as Mike Moustakas, you would be pretty happy with it. I think Boras being his agent kills it all, but I think he would make a lot of sense at a Frazier like discount. The Sox need some LH punch, and if you signed him for a few years, eventually he could probably move to 1B if Abreu hits the road. He would be set up pretty well at GRP. You could have just brought back Todd Frazier who has been the better baseball player. He's not left-handed but that Frazier deal was a steal.
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Rob Scahill has like a 15% K rate for his career. He throws 94-95 but doesn't really do much else well. I think he's probably organizational depth at Charlotte. Cedeno, Rondon and Gomez have a much better chance at making the team IMO.
