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QUOTE (professa @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) What we're really lacking is a true #3 hitter in our lineup (even tho conor is doing a great job) and a #2/#3 starter RH starter. Unfortunately, there really aren't any true #3 hitters hitting FA unless you're gonna spend crazy money. I think getting a guy like Markakis or Zobrist would be smart on a 3 year deal ~ 36 million until we figure out if Hawkins/Avisail can become that guy. Also, getting a vet right hander like Haren or Peavy on a 1-2 yr pact would be ideal. Resign Dunn for a year too ~8 million. Lineup 1. Eaton CF 2. Semien/Micah/Sanchez 2B 3. Markakis/Zobrist LF 4. Abreu 1B 5. Dunn DH 6. Avisail RF 7. Conor 3B 8. Alexei SS 9. Flowers/Nieto Rotation 1. Sale 2. Peavy/Haren 3. Quintana 4. Danks 5. Rodon/Johnson They have a #3 hitter. Robin just bats him 4th. I have seen 5 times that I remember this year in which Gillaspie has made the last out with runners on base and Abreu leads off the next inning. With the current team, I'd go like this: 1. Eaton CF 2. Gillaspie 3B 3. Abreu 1B 4. Dunn DH 5. Viciedo RF 6. Ramirez SS 7. De Aza LF 8. Beckham 2B 9. Flowers C

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Beckham--Maybe a low level prospect. Alexei-Yes, we'd get a lot for him. Dunn-Absolutely nothing but a low level prospect if that. Downs-Nothing but garbage in return if that. Belly - Nothing but garbage in return if that. Actually, they'd hang onto Belisario because he's under team control. Those other guys don't factor into the future though.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) Lol. If the Sox do make some trades, they could end up with another top five pick in the 2015 draft. This should be the goal. No reason to hover around .500 when you have the chance to unload again and draft another quality class of players.

QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Is Adam Engel hurt? Didn't he play for the AZL Sox last night?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 17m Buddy Bell talked today about numerous topics including Carlos Rodon. He expects his signing to go down to the Draft signing deadline, but. Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 17m he would like to see him sign sooner than later because he has such high expectations for Rodon. Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 17m Bell: "The sooner you sign and with his ability and how I see him, this kid is going to be in the big leagues soon.... Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 16m More Bell: "... It just seems to me if money is the issue, he’s going to make a helluva lot more getting it started than not." So I would imagine that the Sox are offering slightly over slot at around $6 million. Boras is holding out for the entire overage that JR has never been willing to pay. Rodon will sign for like $6.1 million around the signing deadline date.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) When? At some point next season.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 04:07 PM) Who are you planning on selling? I still say Dunn brings nothing and Danks brings nothing cause of his contract. These relievers like Downs will bring nothing. Ditto DeAza. I guess you mean Beckham and Lexi. Well, anyone other than Sale, Quintana, Eaton, Avi Garcia, or Abreu. I'd be fine unloading anyone else. Beckham, Alexei, Dunn, Downs, Belisario could net decent returns.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) The wheels are about ready to come off for the 2014 White Sox fun while it lasted. I'm ready for it. Better now than later in my opinion. Selling off a bunch of veterans and securing another top 10 draft pick could really help the organization long-term.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 11:48 AM) Afflalo is not part of a melo plan. He is the plan. This isn't true. Keep preaching that narrative though.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) Not getting the best players available is one thing. We've clearly done that. We have at least done it out of what seems to be a principled stance that we believe in deep squads a la Spurs. Unfortunately, our best player has been hurt since the plan seemed to start working. That doesn't mean that our fruitless plan to build a team that is impressive from top to bottom is the one we should stick to. What it does mean is that it would be dumb and make mockery of everything else that has been done to completely gut the franchise of all of its assets to bring in a star player. Imagine a deal of...this year's 2 first rounders, Mirotic, Butler, and Noah for Love. That's an awful deal because you're left with a team that has Rose, Love, and Taj only. Even if only Taj is the one to go, you've basically decided that your team will have 3 or 4 NBA playoff-caliber starters on it, at best. The whole point of the easy-does-it approach is that we should be able to make the big, bold move and bring a star player onto a team that is built to win. This is why I think we should ignore this Love business entirely if it is as it seems and focus completely on Carmelo, since we can likely get him to the team without moving nearly every positive asset the franchise has. I see no scenario in which we get Melo yet have a shallow team. Why would Minnesota take Noah in a Love deal anyway? He's a free agent again in 2016 and would never sign there.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 03:01 PM) That's why I think it would be wise to sign Shields and put him in between Sale and Quintana. Rodon will slide in nicely between Sale and Quintana

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) My biggest concern with Shields is all the innings he's thrown in his career, as well as his stuff looking pretty mediocre of late. Yeah. Giving up a draft pick to sign a pitcher in the offseason is a stupid idea. The Sox are still in the process of acquiring young, cost-controlled players. Shields or another free agent pitcher that costs you resources besides money will not happen in my opinion.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 11:00 AM) http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?s...mp;ymd=20140621 Charlotte- Surkamp Birmingham- Jaye Winston Salem- Montas Kannapolis- TBA Great Falls- McKenzie Arizona White Sox- TBA DSL White Sox- TBA I love following the Montas starts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 10:52 AM) Sigh. What does this mean? Haha

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 21, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) Basketball Insiders ‏@BBallInsiders 12m Sources: Bulls Pursuing Arron Afflalo: The Chicago Bulls are pursuing a trade for Orlando Magic swingman Arron I have no clue if that twitter account is legit or not but it does have 10K followers.....Hopefully this is in addition to Melo and they aren't JUST going after Afflalo. If they could really just get Melo for Boozer and a pick then get Afflalo for Butler and a pick or something along those lines, that'd be incredible. Afflalo is up there with Jimmy defensively but brings much more offense along with him.....Rose-Afflalo-Melo-Taj-Noah would be sick. Afflalo is owed $7.5 million next season. After doing some research, I noticed that they could fit Afflalo and Melo. Orlando would want a 1st rounder for Afflalo. So trade #16 along with the $4 million of non-guaranteed deals in Amundson, Brewer, and Mike James. That gets it into the $5.5 million range. Bulls may have to include Snell or some 2nd round picks o get it done. Should be an interesting next few weeks.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 12:14 PM) Who cares? For that asking price it is worth having a season and a half of David Price plus the first round pick that you will receive when he reaches FA. The market for Price is down given that teams are becoming ultra protective of their prospects. That is the reason that Price was not traded in the offseason, no one would give up what the Rays wanted so they are going to try and increase their leverage at the trade deadline this season. Every start he makes for TB lessens his value as thats one more start his new team is not getting from him. Rick Hahn has said that he's only interested in trading for pieces that fit into the long-term plan. Price doesn't.

I've been a Viciedo supporter on the board for a long time but he just doesn't offer enough offensively to justify him playing in the field and he really doesn't hit enough to be a primary DH. He's just not very good.

Keith Law has an insider piece on Tomas today: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/...aw_YasmaniTomas He says that he may have more power than Abreu does but he isn't as good of a prospect as Puig or Abreu. Says he has below average bat speed, will have to play in an OF corner, and will have a low .obp. Good for 25-30 HR's annually though. He expects that he will get paid more than he should because that market is still the only one without a cap on spending.

Here is Tomas' crushing a ball in the WBC

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) BA reporting Sox are hot on Jorge Alfaro's little brother. He also plays catcher and is one top players this year at that position. Adding Alfaro and Ynoa to the system would be awesome

The White Sox are not getting David Price. He would never re-sign here. You can close this thread.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 08:54 PM) Not if he soesn't sign. Even if he does sign, he prob won't get enough starts to warrant a top 20... He's probably not going to get actual starts. He will have some appearances. He has thrown a ton of innings this year. Why are you still on this kick that he may not sign?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 06:27 PM) This is sort of encouraging? I had this brief conversation with CJ earlier. CJ Wittmann ‏@CJWittJr 3h I love Tim Anderson's end game profile. Don't love his reactions off the bat at SS but hands are always in sync. Electric. #whitesox Reply 3 Retweet 1 Favorite James Fox ‏@JamesFox917 2h @CJWittJr Do you think it's at 2B though? Brandon Phillips type upside or not that much power? Reply Retweet Favorite Delete CJ Wittmann ‏@CJWittJr 2h @JamesFox917 I do and yes; a Brandon Phillips type profile was my comp for Anderson actually. CJ Wittmann ‏@CJWittJr 2h @JamesFox917 Anderson has plus raw and generates a lot of backspin; ball jumps off of his bat. I think he will have that type of power.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) Any rotation with Sale, Price, Quintana is ready to contend. Then you toss in Rodon with Montas/Danish/Adams on their way and hope EJ refinds himself. I understand that. The Sox will not be giving Price an 8 year deal in excess of $160 million though. Not a chance.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) I think the odds are 99% Heat, 1% anywhere else. The only way he leaves is if Miami does absolutely nothing to improve the team. That's the problem though. If Wade is back, Miami is almost screwed. Can't really add more and they need more with his dead ass dragging around.