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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) There are some nice names. A couple I can't see leaving, and the others if they have great years are probably going to cost more than Tanaka now, and they are all several years older. Yeah I think that Shields, Masterson, and Bailey will all reach FA. Lester will probably re-sign with Boston.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) Stark hasn't tweeted anything about the cubs being interested in 20 hours. And at that point he said 2 baseball execs said don't count out the Cubs. Doesn't really seem going hard. As for the Angels the GM came out and said they didn't even meet with Tanaka when he was in LA. All this is nonsense till he signs. Tanaka will not sign with the Cubs, there is nothing there for him other than money, and from what is said about his competitive drive he isnt going somewhere to lose at least 80 games for the next three years. As for the Angels, they do not have they money. Not with the contracts given out the past few years and with Trout being due what may be the largest contract in MLB history. No he hasn't but Rosenthal tweeted about big interest from the Cubs about a half hour ago.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 08:51 AM) Rangers are looking for left-handed starting pitchers. The only way I see us getting back into the Tanaka sweepstakes is if we can work out a deal with the Rangers and free up some cash. The Sox don't need to free up any cash though. They aren't going to find more money to pay Tanaka more. They have most likely decided as much as they would pay and if it gets higher than that they will be out on him. If the bidding gets crazy (which it will) they will probably bow out.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 07:30 AM) You think they're going to send him back? No. I think he makes the team if they don't do anything else.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 12:38 PM) Need pitching, but sign Edwin Jackson and trade Garza, Dempster while trying to trade Samardzija Would you sign those guys? The Jackson signing was questionable but trading Garza and Dempster was smart. Older guys that won't be good when Cubs are ready to win. I'd trade Samardzija as well because he's overrated, is 29 already, and wants a ton of money. This argument is lazy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 36s Abreu is taking part in a White Sox hitting camp in Glendale joining the likes of Eaton, Davidson, Thompson, Anderson, etc. Jared Mitchell and some others there as well with Robin Ventura and Todd Steverson.

QUOTE (dayan024 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 1h Industry source suggests Tanaka price tag to hit $140M. Reinsdorf's absence at meeting suggested warm, not hot #whitesox interest So Jerry Reinsdorf was or was not there? I have seen conflicting reports.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) Two big reasons why the plan isn't working you kind of went right around. The first guys up are regressing, and they have no pitching in the system what so ever. They are also being handicapped by the new spending rules, both in the draft and internationally, which is what Theo was best at exploiting. The other one they closed on him is all of the comp picks the BoSox used to get. Add on top of that, Cub fans are FINALLY getting sick of losing, and that is recipe for a long time of problems. I think we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg on the northside. For every optimistic Cub post about how they have all of these guy in the minors who can help them, it is just as easy to point to the 2000 White Sox minor league system with the obvious caveat about how many of these guys WILL fail, not can fail, not might fail, but WILL FAIL. CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson are both good pitching prospects. You are right that it isn't nearly enough though.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 08:46 AM) To me, that's burying the lead. That's a major, major issue that isn't magically fixed. Also, the Rizzo and Castro regressions have to be of some concern. Obviously one regressed year doesn't spell doom for a propspect, but until there's a bounce back it has to be a concern. Obviously it's a big concern. But they don't expect to win yet regardless. Their fans shouldn't either.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 13, 2014 -> 07:18 PM) I watched Wilson back when he was at NC State. Ive never seen you post in the college football thread, so it doesnt really jive. Its odd that you say "I adore Wilson", when I barely even post about him. Wisconsin had really good WRS??? It had Nick Toon and Jared Abberderis, seriously just quit acting like you actually have watched Wilson more than just in an espn montage. T And what do you mean "like Andrew Luck", in what season in the last 3 years has he: A) Won more games or B) had a better qb rating Than Wilson? Ill hang up now while you continue to slurp Luck's penis. I get your a Luck fan boy, but s*** the guy threw 7 ints in the last 2 games, that isnt something to write home about. And Im not sure if you can really say that Luck hasnt had better wrs either, I mean TY Hilton, Reggie Wayne, or Golden Tate, Sydney Rice and whatever other cluster. I already said that I thought Luck was a better pure passer than Wilson, so it really sounds like youre the one who is idolizing, because its lunacy to put Luck in the category of Manning or Brady. Badger, I agree that Wilson is good. He's not better than Luck though. Luck is going to be the best QB in the NFL 5 years from now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 13, 2014 -> 08:06 PM) I think to a large extent you are right. Historically they have drawn well even when bad. I also think they thought they would be back to the 80-85 win range by now. Disagree. I always heard 2015 as the realistic date to start winning. It doesn't do them any good to win between 80-85 games. If they said that then it is lip service. They want high draft picks. They probably wish that they were bad enough to pick 1st instead of 4th this year. I don't really understand why people think the plan isn't working. They need pitching but they are loaded with some of the best hitting prospects in the game. I do think that Epstein undervalued how bad their farm system was though. They had pretty much nothing in the system when he took over other than Baez and Vogelbach. They will be godawful this year and hope that Castro and Rizzo are better. Cubs fans will most likely see Bryant and Baez this year too. I would say that next year (2015) will be the year that they hope to be around .500 and traject upward from that point. If the stadium gets done and they get a new tv deal they will be back spending in the $150 million range. This year will most likely be rough for the major league team though. Real rough.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 10, 2014 -> 03:45 PM) Save the money, get Kershaw. Sale/Kershaw/Rosterbate For $300 million? No thanks. He will be in Dodger Blue.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 10, 2014 -> 12:09 PM) Good thing for ND they don't really give a f*** what some random guy in North Dakota does or doesn't buy. It's the truth. They also promote the fact that they believe in a mythical figure. If you truly believe in what is taught in some of those "theology" classes, then you may as well believe in Santa and the Easer Bunny as well.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jan 9, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Petrino will burn Louisville and they deserve it when it happens again. He has a $10 million buyout.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 9, 2014 -> 09:59 AM) That doesnt say anything that contradicts what I said. The Sox were in on him from day 1 and the contract offered was exactly in the range of what I was told and mentioned on this site. Rock, you got anything on Tanaka?

There are some interesting nuggets about Tanaka in Michael Sneed's Sun Times column today. I don't know if it's Kenny being Kenny or what but it's definitely interesting. http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/2484383...ll-of-fame.html

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 8, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) LOL "Steroids weren't illegal!" ORLY? Wonder if the DEA would agree with that. I definitely agree with his premise though. There are many players in the HOF that have cheated in some way or another. It impossible to know who used and who did not. You can't just pick and choose. The whole process is pretty stupid. I am looking forward to 2015 to see if Craig Biggio can have a really good season so that he gets in...oh wait. Frank Thomas is the reason why I am a White Sox fan and I am happy for him but the Baseball Hall of Fame and the process of election is a f***ing joke. You are either a hall of famer or you aren't.

Well here is an interesting bit of news: Luke Stuckmeyer ‏@LukeStuckmeyer 3m Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka will meet with the #Cubs & #WhiteSox this week...likely in Chicago.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jan 6, 2014 -> 12:44 PM) Interesting why? Anywhere in the 5-10 range seems very reasonable to me. Actually #7 is exactly where I have him on my list at the moment. Also I like Jacob May getting into the top 10. Currently I have him at #11 and am very interested to see how he does this season. I guess I just value ceiling more than most people. I also don't think Jose Abreu should be considered a prospect though.

Baseball America released their list of Top 30 White Sox prospects today. I don't have the entire transcript and I'm old school and still purchase the Prospect Handbook anyway, but this is tweet is interesting from Daryl Van Schouwen. Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 3m #WhiteSox top prospects, per Baseball America: 1 Abreu 2 EJohnson 3 Anderson 4 Davidson 5 Semien 6 MJohnson 7 Hawkins 8Thompson 9Beck 10 May Having Hawkins at #7 is very interesting.

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 2m #WhiteSox have claimed LHP Eric Surkamp off waivers from SF Giants. But they also lost Brent Morel to #BlueJays on waivers. Someone create the Brent Morel Appreciation Thread

Not sure if this was already posted but it's pretty funny. Matt Davidson was doing an interview with Chris Rose and Kevin Millar and Reed happened to be in the background working out. Pretty funny stuff.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 01:16 AM) My niece and nephew both have Downs Syndrome, so I didn't like it. But I'm not a mod here and I am not going to report it either. I can't force people to not make jokes about mentally challenged people, only distance myself from them. Not that this is what I want to turn this thread into but are they both from the same family? Like did your brother or sister happen to have 2 children with Down Syndrome or is it different parents? Just curious because you don't see it that often.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 21, 2013 -> 02:30 AM) Trea Turner needs to have a great season, but not so great that he goes 2. I hope he has a great season so that he goes #2. That would ensure that the Sox could draft Jeff Hoffman. Talk about a nasty rotation.

Like some others have stated, Nate Jones should be the closer. Hope that pitches awesome and that you can them deal him for a nice haul with some controlled years left. I like Nate Jones. I think Daniel Webb is the closer of the future though and I like selling high on relievers. That would be my goal with Jones.