Chicago White Sox

Pretty sure they lease the land around the ballpark, but regardless a costly real estate development is extremely unlikely to provide a quick payback.

If this is the first time you dreamt of Machado signing with the Sox, you’re probably doing better than most of us.

Not for Sunday asshole ?

Gotcha and that would all make sense, I just don’t think there is a lick of truth to this Yankees’ offer. Even Duquette has already back-tracked on it a bit.

What do you mean?

I think that would be pretty crazy as the quality of contact from Timmy just isn’t in the same wheelhouse as Baez.

Lol.../ thread.

Yankees fans on Twitter are completely unbearable. Like they legitimately feel they should be entitled to Machado & Harper just because. I really, really hope they land neither of them (which seems likely at this point) just to see their fanbase’s endless whining.

Yup, which makes me think things will wrap up here soon.

Lol...there have been zero rumors about the Yankees even making an offer and now Jim Duquette just casually drops the Yankees’ current offer is 7 to 8 years and above $200M? Seems like a blatant Lozano plant if I’ve ever seen one.

Jesus fucking Christ no.

Two questions: 1) Why would Machado care about batting second and why do you care? 2) I thought you’ve fiending for a LH middle of the order bat? That’s exactly what Joc is and if he can be bad for cheap why the fuck not?

Ok I’m hyped as fuck right now. Let’s sign Machado & Keuchel, trade for Joc, and win the division NEXT YEAR. This lineup could hit 240 bombs and along with a strong pen could offset a sketchy rotation (yes I’m aware this OF defense would suck balls). 1) Moncada, 2B 2) Machado, 3B 3) Abreu, DH 4) Pederson, CF 5) Jimenez, LF 6) Alonso, 1B 7) Castillo, C 8)) Palka, RF 9) Anderson, SS IF: Sanchez OF: Jay UT: Rondon BC: McCann #1: Kuechel #2: Lopez #3: Rodon #4: Nova #5: Giolito CL: Colome SU: Herrera SU: Fry MR: Jones MR: Frare MR: Hamilton LR: Banuelos PS: Let’s hope Lindor’s calf injury causes him to miss time or be limited and pray the Indians’ rotation gets hit with some injuries and that their bullpen & OF suck ☺️

This Cubs-Sox talk in this thread is ridiculous. First, while we all may be diehards, that doesn’t mean everyone has to pick one team or the other. The value of playing in Chicago is you have access to a huge market when things are going right and can take advantage of a big population of band-wagoners. In terms of true die-hard fan-bases within the metropolitan area, I’d give a slight edge to the Cubs but it’s probably pretty close. What superates the Cubs from the Sox is their support from the causal / transplant audience and much more of a regional reach (i.e. Iowa, etc). No matter how you want to argue it, the Sox are NOT a small market club.

The Cubs do? Who do they lose other than Zobrist and some relievers?

And Shields’ FIP & xFIP were both above 5 last year not to mention James is five years older. Nova is without question the better bet to provide solid back-of-the rotation production next year.

Please tell me you aren’t arguing Shields > Nova.

He’s just doing that to appease the fans, IMO it’s pretty clear the Yankees are satisfied for now and are saving some payroll room a future potential pitching addition.

Cool?

Lol...that Simonetti guy stays losing.

I know India has his fans here, but he would have been a poor centerpiece for the exact reason you stated.

I agree you can’t rely solely on defensive metrics, especially for catchers, so if he looked that bad to you I’m willing to accept his WAR is likely overstated. I still think he has to be a far superior catcher to Narvaez who has both the eye test & advanced metrics working against him.

While I’d normally be willing to accept defeat here ?, Carson wasn’t just missing by inches. He was all over the place and walking between 5 to 7 per nine innings. I’m not sure crisper offerings will change that enough, but clearly I’m not a pitching expert.

Lol...I got scolded for throwing out a theoretical Rutherford for Joc trade (from a value standpoint), but I’d without doubt be pissed if we gave up all three of those guys for Joc unless they plan on adding both Machado & Keuchel.

The difference is BP has him as one of the best framers baseball. Admittedly, I have to rely on the advanced metrics here, but despite his shortcomings he’s a pretty useful catcher if you believe the framing is legitimate going forward.