Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:48 PM) All the national guys are acting like this deal is pretty much done I don't remember a time where a trade was announced by all the major baseball insiders.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:47 PM) Have you seen his numbers in AA? Yeah, but it's only 87 plate appearances. Need to see more before I consider him a top 50 prospect again. His poor high A numbers really impacted his status.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:41 PM) I thought they both were Mateo's stock is really down at the moment, although the tools are obviously there.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:34 PM) Torres isn't getting moved. Wish it weren't true, but you do not trade Torres for a rental 3B/1B and bullpen arms. That's just highway robbery. Cashman is not dumb by a long stretch.Give me Rutherford, Adams, and Fowler, and I'll say it was a good trade. I'd take Andjujar and/or Mateo as well. Yanks have so many good pieces. Red Sox could never match. Lol, Torres was acquired for a bullpen arm. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but let's not use relievers being the reason why.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:33 PM) Really Fathom? Who else besides Andujar and Mateo would comprise a sufficient return? I assume that it would be a low level prospect. Neither guy is a top 100 prospect, although I think Andujar probably deserves some consideration. Regardless, that's not enough for Robertson+Kahnle assuming we're sending back any sort of cash. Frazier is really more of a sweetner IMO.

Any interesting Yankee prospects pulled or not playing today?

Assuming this is true, expect multiple guys who are on or will need to be added to their 40 man roster this offseason to be in the package.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:42 PM) Bruce Levine‏ @MLBBruceLevine 42s42 seconds ago More The Yankees are the team closest to getting a deal done with Chicago Wh Sox Robertson-Frazier and Kahnle going if deal completed Lol what the f*** does that even mean?! Can't decipher through Bruce's broken ass English!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:41 PM) I feel like I am waiting for the scene in Swordfish where Halle Berry unclips her top... Lol...now there is an analogy!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:33 PM) If just for Frazier that would be great Yup, now I'm going to be dissapointed when the real return is announced.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:30 PM) - a twitter user with 29 followers named NOLC Action That would be an incredible return if true.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) Right when you're at the game usually in the like the 3rd or 4th they will head down to the bullpen in a pack. The year Sale was a rookie he had to make the walk in a pink hello kitty backpack in Baltimore at a game I attended. Yeah, I'm an idiot, just wishing Robertson being in the dugout to start the game actually meant something.

This may be a dumb question, but do relievers normally hang out in the clubhouse and not in the bullpen this early in the game?

Frazier standing against the railing with the rest of his teammates.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:42 PM) Bruce said the money is right and Boston close to getting Frazier and DRob DRob too?! f*** yes!!

Here we go!!

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 05:28 PM) Where has Zack Collins been? He's been playing. Double header today, so probably just giving him a breather in game 1.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) I know but I was more focusing on the part of the writeup about his defense. But he's also doing that in the PCL right? Colorado Springs boosts offense by 30% more than Coors does. I'm not sure I buy that he's suddenly transformed into an elite hitter. His line is also being pumped up a lot by that .421 BABIP. Their AAA team is in Albuquerque now, but I believe it's also a pretty serious offensive ballpark. And agreed on the BABIPs, his numbers scream out flukisk to me.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) I just don't see Avi as part of our next contender, and I don't think there's any way he's ever going to have a BETTER season, so I'm all for moving him for a decent offer, despite his youth. For me, I just would never feel comfortable extending him. He'd have to keep this up through the end of 2018 before I'd even consider it and by then he'd be looking at a pretty sizable contract. And honestly, I'd always worry his game would just suddenly fall apart and we'd have an albatross on our hands. I'm not just willing to give him away, but if someone sees as a 3-4 WAR outfielder going forward then I think it's time to cash in.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) That article was written before McMahon went off and is batting .356 - .402 - .597 in 2017 How does that change his evaluation of his defense though?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 01:12 PM) I think the Eaton deal easily has the lowest likelihood of regret by far. If one of the pitchers reachers their ceilings or two perform 75% of peak protection we win easy. Sale is a Kopech injury from getting hairy. You really need Moncada to be a star. Sale has been the best player in baseball this year. Basabe/Diaz made up what I thought to be a surprisingly weak backend and their stock has gone way done since joining our Sox. Q trade is basically if Jimenez is as advertised we win and anything else from the package is gravy. I agree 100% with this take. We sold high on Eaton and were able to land three quality prospects. While I think the media's view on the trade being a complete heist was over the top, I think Hahn easily extracted the most value he could for Eaton. Obviously it's hard to do much better than Moncada & Kopech as centerpieces, but the backend was definitely weak. I think the overall return was pretty much fair for a 6 WAR type pitcher with three years of control, but we definitely didn't receive a premium (which we should have) and we definitely did not receive best pitcher on the planet value. It's a trade we had to make ultimately, but it still feels a little light to me. As for Jose, you're spot on with Jimenez. He pretty much makes or breaks the trade. And given how he's pitched this year, I think it was a somewhat fair return and a trade we had to make, but I do think the Cubs got off a little light. Cease is fine as a #2 piece, but I fully expected at least a Basabe caliber prospect to round things out. Overall, I think Hahn did well with all three trades, but the Eaton one still stands out as his best move.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 02:09 PM) Yep, not many 3Bs out there with 30+ HR, 10%+ BB, ~20% K potential and good defense. He would be a fine return, I'd think, for Avi. He and Tapia would have my head spinning. That's a ridiculously optimistic projection for McMahon. Hell, that's basically Eloy's Jimenez's projection if all goes well. McMahon has some nice power potential, but nothing from a statistical standpoint has ever suggested that type of offensive player, at least not prior to this year (which I'm not buying). And everything I've read says it will be a challenge for him to stick at 3B long-term. I really think you're completely overvaluing him.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) Rockies are interested in Martinez. Avi for McMahon? I'm not a McMahon fan, would definitely want something better.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) I am sure its been said in gamethreads. Everything & anything has been said in gamethreads.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:23 PM) ...did my memory fabricate this last year? Some people wanted to let him go for nothing when he was claimed by the Yankees (I believe) last year. I don't think anyone wanted to DFA him.