Chicago White Sox

It’s interesting that we don’t sign many arms. Seems like almost all our high profile LatAm sighing are of the positional variety.

Rodon for Mejia, who says no? (Mostly kidding)

No doubt he’s pressing and the missed calls haven’t helped. Honestly, I think it’s probably a combination of all the factors I mentioned that are causing his problems. It’s never easy for someone like him who has been mostly successful their whole career to overcome failure at the major league level. Ultimately you have to believe in the underlying talent to right the ship.

Sure, we should explore options like this once enough of the core is in place. But now is definitely not the time IMO and we shouldn’t be using the first big wave of prospects (Jimenez, Kopech) under any circumstance. The starting pitchers at AA & the positional guys at High A (plus Basabe) should probably be the trade chips when the time comes.

If we traded Michael Kopech straight up for Syndergaard I’d stop being a White Sox fan immediately. There is no logic whatsoever in that type of move.

He’s borderline down. The lack of power is concerning to me, but I like the plate discipline he’s shown and remain hopeful that he’ll be able to tap into his 70 grade raw power with time.

Looking at the 27 eligible players in my top 30, I’ve got 19 guys I feel improved their value, four who have maintained their value, & four who have lost some value. Overall that’s beyond fantastic progress for the system. 01) Jimenez, OF - UP 02) Kopech, RHP - FLAT 03) Robert, CF - UP 04) Madrigal, SS/2B - NA 05) Cease, RHP - UP 06) Hansen, RHP - FLAT 07) Dunning, RHP - UP 08) Collins, C - UP 09) Basabe, CF - UP 10) Adolfo, OF - UP 11) Rutherford, OF - UP 12) Burdi, RHP - FLAT 13) Burger, 3B - DOWN 14) Gonzalez, OF - UP 15) Zavala, C - UP 16) Stephens, RHP - UP 17) Walker, OF - NA 18) Hamilton, RHP - UP 19) Curbelo, SS/3B - UP 20) Sheets, 1B - DOWN 21) Johnson, RHP - UP 22) Adams, RHP - DOWN 23) Cordell, OF - DOWN 24) Sosa, SS - UP 25) Vieira, RHP - FLAT 26) Lambert, RHP - UP 27) McClure, RHP - UP 28) Flores, LHP - UP 29) Rivera, SS - UP 30) Pilkington, LHP - NA

I thought you & JR were buddies? Are you harboring resentment now because he wouldn’t let you interview for the GM job?

So instead of waiting & seeing what we have in Moncada because that would actually take some time, let’s trade him for an asset that doesn’t really fit our forecasted competitive window. Makes all the sense in the world if you ask me.

Retool <> rebuild and the fact Reinsdorf is behind this is incredibly important & should not be understated.

Lol...this is a disaster of an idea. If the Sox want to add a starter, they’ll either do so via free agency or trade for a guy with 4+ years of control. They aren’t trading prospect currency for guys with two or three years of control.

So you refuse to acknowledge this could be just be a one month slump and are continuing with your downward trajectory theory. Look who is dodging the data now.

The question I have with Moncada is what’s changed since his injury? Look at the splits below (pre / post injury). Despite striking out a ton, the kid was absolutely murdering the ball. His line drive & hard contact rates were amongst the highest in the leagues and that shows in his power numbers. Since the injuries, his entire offensive game has regressed (with the exception of strikeouts) to the point of being a terrible hitter. These can not be the same player and the insane tools suggest that the pre-injury player (with some BABIP regression) is there in there. Is Moncada not healthy? Is he having swing / approach issues? Has the league adjusted how they’re attacking him? There has to be explanation for how he want from one of the best to one of the worst hitters in such a short period of time. PA: 132 / 198 BB %: 12.9% / 5.6% K %: 37.1% / 34.3% ISO: .246 / .130 LD %: 29.2 / 17.8% Hard %: 51.5% / 35.6% BABIP: .407 / .281 OPS: .868 / .566 wRC+: 139 / 53

Pretty sure Robert was injured before this thread was started but whatever.

You aren’t getting him for Fulmer in any scenario. And from what I can tell from the 30 seconds I’ve spent looking at his numbers, he’s been more unlucky than anything. I’d take him straight up for Jose but seriously doubt the Rockies would bite on that.

While I can acknowledge the pick was bad with the benefit of hindsight (people were generally ok with the pick at the time though), the development of Carson has truly been criminal. No idea where Fulmer would be right now if they allowed him to develop at a normal pace.

I’d be open to that, but I’d like to exhaust the reliever option first if possible, although that admittedly could sap his remaining value.

I know I’m in the minority here, but I’d rather just move him to the bullpen and see how he responds. Maybe that doesn’t solve the command issues, but I don’t see him ever becoming a quality major league starter regardless.

Collins HR!

Cease has been pretty good other than the one long ball.

Excellent start for Lopez.

Given he’s batting like .220, that’s not overly surprising, but still very scary. This coaching staff has to figure how to get him going. Even against RHP he doesn’t look like the same player we saw in May.

That last at-bat was like watching a public execution of a loved one. You knew after the first pitch how that at-bat was ending.

I don’t care what anyone says, Lopez is a badass mothefucker. He battled to get through that shit with minimum damage and you can still see how pissed he is to have given up those two runs. Love this kid.

And Lopez has some serious stones, but it’s hard to let this shit get to you when it happens time and time again.