Chicago White Sox

Eloy is a bad baseball player who can’t stay healthy. No contender is going to trade for him in hopes of improving his chances.

Glad they are doing this instead of going six man, one day a week for everyone.

Kopech isn’t performing bad and is 4th is Stuff+ amongst relievers. He will be in demand at the trade deadline.

Chance of scenery type trade?

The one thing I will give Getz credit for is bringing in Bannister. No idea how they convinced him to join this s%*# show of an org, but he seems to be making a difference where he can. I just have zero faith Getz has any idea how to build a competent group of position players. And when his key advisers are Gene fucking Watson and a dude who pushed to acquire Dominic Fletcher I become even less inspired to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Because Hahn was clueless in how to evaluate a manager and got all excited when Grifol used some buzz words.

I hate being that guy, but if you can’t build a team full of replacement level players then you dont deserve to be a major league GM. Yes, Robert and Moncada are hurt and yes Benintendi is a nightmare that Getz assumed, but so many of the negative fWAR guys are of his own doing. Maldonado has no business a major leaguer at this point. Vaughn should have been sent down a while ago. His big acquisition in Fletcher has been terrible and the depth pieces he acquired in Lopez & Shoemake are simply bad to little surprise. A person with any level of pride would quit out of embarrassment, but not Chris Getz, he’ll ride this wave of unwarranted good fortune to Jerry’s grave.

All good!

Two separate players => Robert + Benintendi

You just listed Robert, one of the worst OFs in baseball, an interesting backup catcher, and 11 unproven prospects. There is a very real chance it takes five years to be a legitimate contender again. The major league roster is almost completely devoid of talent. I think 2027 should be the realistic goal of when we are competing for an AL Central title. I think it would take a miracle to be competitive before the 2027 season and not a ton has to go wrong for it to take a few years longer.

I think the question is why waste playing time on garbage like Keller in the first place? At some point we have to start committing innings to our young starters. The one strength this system has is SP prospects in the upper minors. We’re going to have like seven prospects competing for like three or four rotation spots next year in Nastrini, Cannon, Thorpe, Iriarte, Eder, Bush, & Adams. Why not start giving them some of these starts so evaluations can begin? There is going to be a learning curve at the major league level and adaption will take time. Let’s see what Nastrini has to offer at minimum so we can get a pretty good sense if he has be a long-term rotation stalwart or more of a bullpen guy. No need to cram that initial evaluation into a two month post deadline period because we’re hoping to snag a minor league relief prospect for crap like Keller.

Let’s hope Getz does the smart thing and uses this spot towards developing an potential future piece rather than hoping we hit the lottery on some retread.

I truly hope that Getz calls up Cannon to see how you spin this.

Isn’t Montes a DH-only type prospect?

We got a pitching prospect for Grossman that is more or less the same as Horn. You don’t need to “trust my evaluations” to realize Getz has executed a ton of roster churn to ultimately effectively gain nothing so far. It’s wild to me how much the pro Getz crowd is celebrating getting a relief prospect for Grossman like it’s some game changer for us. We legit have the least talented major leaguer roster in baseball and Getz is prioritizing getting a few more C tier prospects vs. using our available playing time on guys who could potentially fill everyday roles. What’s weird is that you were previously all about giving Colas a shot but now are hoping to flip some dumpster dives for garbage. I can’t wait until we ultimately cut Colas & Sosa this offseason without giving them an extended shot.

Bush has been killing it. And so has Adams for that matter.

What good is a C tier minor league when you have little long term talent on the major league roster? Is that really going to move the needle? At some point you need to start giving your youngsters extended opportunities. And I supported the Fedde & Pham signings. There is flip upside there. What I don’t like is not giving guys like Colas, Sosa, & Fletcher extended shots and instead playing the likes of Grossman, Ortega, Lopez, Mendick, etc. Cool, we got a minor league reliever for Grossman! We literally just DFAed one that I’d consider a similar caliber talent in Horn. Same applies for giving a rotation spot to Keller over Nastrini. Hitting on one youngster we weren’t relying on would likely exceed anything we get in return for these minimally talented veterans.

I don’t know much about Young or Emerson, but does either have legit stat potential? Have to get a legit 60 FV headliner if you move Robert.

That’s part of my frustration with Getz. Go look at the old rebuilding Sox in the early years and you at least had some pieces that were going to part of the future. There are just so many bad vets that won’t command anything in trade on this roster that I don’t get the plan. And the few youngsters we’ve had have mostly be cast to Charlotte unless they performed well right away. It definitely feels like Getz had some plan but panicked a bit after the horrific start.

His velocity never came back?

I have no idea how we went from Nastrini making the OD roster to getting two starts and then being replaced by Brad fucking Keller. The saddest part of this season is we haven’t developed a single positional or rotation piece who can be part of the long term future. It’s going to be a long rebuild with Getz in charge.

Colson ending up at 1B would be a really bad thing and would be a terrible use of resources. If we have a glut on the left side of the infield, trade one of them for a position of need instead of using a high end prospect at a non premium defensive position.

At some point you have to take a gamble. I see few free agents that can potentially be difference makers that are even in the realm of possible. Alonso is one of the few and even he may be stretch.

Colas? Improved K & BB rates while maintaining a similar ISO to last year. His BABIP is down like 50 points which is likely bad luck unless he’s hitting a ton of infield pop-ups. Not suggesting he’s killing it down there, but I’d say he’s done enough to get some major league shot. Now is the time to see what we have in him, Fletcher, and theoretically DeLoach.

I think they go out and sign Alonso. The Soto tier free agents will never be feasible under Jerry, but Pete might be in that theoretical sweet spot. In all honesty, if you look at our future needs it’s 1B and OF that are our biggest holes and the latter will be much easier for us to pull off a splashy signing.