Chicago White Sox

Yup, either you suck or you are awesome…there is no in between. What a great message board this place has become.

This may be the most embarrassing thread in Soxtalk history. Just so much unnecessary arrogance by the OP and for no particular reason.

Rosenthal mentioned that the Sox would be willing to eat money to improve a Robert return.

What in the f*** are you even arguing at this point?

Lol…you brought up his speed buddy and I simply called your post out for being incredibly dumb. Mike Tauchman’s speed has zero merit on anything long-term. He is simply a cheap vet placeholder who comes with warts (including health) but has 100% outproduced his measly $2M salary. Trying to draw any conclusions about our long-term strategy because of a cheap vet is absolutely ridiculous.

Again, why does this matter? What is the quota for speed on a team that will almost certainly suck again next year? No idea where this need for speed idea came from…

What does this have to do with his lack of speed? You are moving the goalposts here and in a fashion that hasn’t nothing to do with the point of your thread.

You’re actually arguing a guy who is currently 35% above league average as a hitter sucks?

Why does this fucking matter? Complaining about Tauchman’s speed while he’s giving us a 135 wRC+ for ~$2M is the strangest take I have seen on this board in my 20+ years here.

This is an incredibly bizarre, poorly thought out, click-baity thread. Why do we need to build around speed specifically? Why would we expect a team very early in a rebuild with few building blocks in place to have all the attributes of its ideal roster in place already? For people to say there is no strategy is just straight up wrong. On the positional side, Getz has targeted hitters who get on base and make good swing decisions in almost all his major trades and with several recent draft picks. There is really no denying this and so far that strategy has provided quick wins with guys like Vargas & Meidroth looking like solid regulars. But honestly, that is more about providing a much needed floor of average contributors (something that the previous regime consistently undervalued) and from what we’ve read and seen they understand the need for athleticism and power. B. Montgomery and Teel both fit the billing in the single biggest trade of Gets’s career and so does Bonemer in the draft. More is going to be needed here, especially in the power department, but this is basically the first year of the org’s rebuild and power & athleticism aren’t easy to come by. On the pitching side we have Bannister and it’s clear as day they have a full fledged strategy there. Identify, select, and develop premium arms in the draft to anchor your future staff since we know we can’t afford those guys in free agency (at least under Jerry) and target lesser pure stuff guys on the cheap who offer unique pitch shapes, deliveries, and/or other attributes that generate weak contact. There is now a legit pitching lab in place to aid in our pitcher’s development and we are actually seeing evidence of biomechanics being used to both enhance offerings and to help establish ideal roles for our guys. Beyond that, it’s clear that pitching depth is highly important to front office and there was actually a glut of SP talent in AAA before the rash on injuries happened. And to be clear here, by no means am I saying this strategy is going to solve all our problems as much of this is stuff is common nature for modern orgs. But it can’t be stressed enough how behind the times we were and how basic improvements to our foundations can rapidly improve the quality of org. f***, I would happily take an average org from a scouting, player development, & analytics perspective and hope that Ishbia can eventually be a difference maker on the payroll side. Regardless, there is a real plan in place whether or not our very bad rebuilding roster has speed on it or not.

Same here…I need to be hurt again so I finally feel something

Ishbia spending his hard earned money on Tucker and a new stadium would be a good start to his reign as majority shareholder.

Who is blaming La Russa for Grifol?

Harold was a big fan of Hahn in the past? Not saying you are wrong, but I don’t remember that.

I thought the 26 year old is the one who people think brought in the gun? And I think the theoretical shots from outside the stadium were much closer than six miles.

Fun interview, but nothing that we didn’t know already. The simple reality is guys got super lazy under La Russa and that got even worse with Grifol since no one took him seriously. Hahn didn’t really help matters either with all the early extensions (in hindsight) and then bringing in a bunch of assholes and red asses to stir things up. Tim Anderson going insane was the final nail in the coffin.

I just want to add that I am so glad that Vaughn is gone for good. I was pretty confident we’d never see him again once he got demoted to AAA, but this all but confirms that.

Eloy, Moncada, & Kopech would like a word

A .500 BABIP suggests big time batted ball luck rather than big time raking. Meanwhile Baldwin has a .354 ISO which is 2.5x higher than Amaya’s. That’s big time raking, even for someone at Charlotte.

No need to keep beating on Rick Hahn with that last line when he’s already dead

What the f*** is a Vinny Capra?

He will be back up soon and will never return to Charlotte.

Baldwin needs to be up ASAP. The good news is that Getz is showing he is willing to cut bait on recent veteran additions. They will probably give Rojas a bit more runway, but that shouldn’t prevent us from calling up Baldwin.

A 20 year old one who is on a 30 HR per 600 PA pace. Seems like he should be getting a lot more attention whereas Baseball America didn’t really move up at all in their new rankings.

Why is Perez not getting more hype? His power numbers are ridiculous.