Chicago White Sox

I bet Ricky will cite all these meaningless late September wins in his year-end review!!

So fucking stupid

Trade for Eli?

?...this Cooper rumor sounds too good to be true, but he’s got to be close to retirement. I know next to nothing about Menechino so not sure if that would be good or bad.

Wheeler is easily worth forfeiting a second pick IMO.

Bumgarner is not a whale...like not even fucking close man. Wheeler is so much better than him it’s not even funny and he’s not a whale. Either way, anyone but Cole & Rendon should be on the table. Strasburg is probably a long-shot, but that has to do more with how his agent will drag out the process and our need to address pitching right out the gate.

Yes I did, which is don’t count on us landing a whale. We will certainly add quality players via free agency even if their last names aren’t Cole or Rendon. Those of you suggesting otherwise are implying we will be rocking a ridiculously low payroll and that’s not happening.

Some of you live your lives according to Murphy’s Law and assume the worst will happen at all times.

Got to bat your worst hitter first because...reasons.

It’s absolute insanity that people think this.

Grandal, especially if we plan on retaining Abreu for multiple years.

I must have missed it, but what has Timmy attributed to Steverson? Other than Moncada, I’m not sure I’ve much proof Steverson has driven any of these changes. I have seen our manager say guys are zoning him out though, which is a significant red flag IMO.

There is plenty of free agent pitching available. Four of the top 14 starters in terms of fWAR will be free agents (Cole, Strasburg, Ryu, & Wheeler) plus other several other semi-interesting guys in Bumgarner (3.2), Odorizzi (4.3), Gibson (2.6), Hamels (2.5), and Alex Wood. IMO, there is zero reason to trade for pitching. The hitting class is very underwhelming after Rendon, Grandal, & JDM if he declines his option. A trade would be more justifiable there, but we don’t have a lot of expendable chips.

To me, this is very simple. Grandal is as good of a hitter as Castellanos, fits our lineup needs much better (lefty + elite OBP), and actually brings good defense at a positional of skill. Give me Yasmani any day of the week over Nicholas.

And what if we extend Abreu for two or three years? What’s your plan with Vaughn?

I think Mendick has done enough to get first crack at the reserve infielder job next year. Take the $4M or Yolmer will earn this year and use it elsewhere.

This isn’t an either or thing...the Sox can and will load up on pitching and add a few bats. Adding Grandal does NOT prevent them addressing the pitching staff in any way, shape, or form IMO. Let me ask you this, who is it you want to add at DH?

He worked with him over the offseason in AZ, but a lot of that may have been Moncada driven. Either way, our plate discipline has been horrendous and oftentimes it seems like our guys have no game-plan. Renteria made a crazy comment earlier this season that Todd was doing his job but some players were just zoning him out. To me, once the players stop listening to a coach, a change is most definitely needed.

I think Steverson is as good as gone. Margulas also seems to think the writing is on the wall based on Hahn’s commentary.

Hahn has already stated a need to upgrade both RF & DH.

No you’re really not.

This is a ridiculously stupid idea.

Good god man, that would be absolutely horrible and reflect a team with like an $80M payroll at best. There is nothing “real” about this scenario whatsoever.

Oh I fully agree, but Ricky should be fired for the reasons you stated, not because a bunch of shitty players sucked.

So my guess is they go one of two options here. 1) They clean house on the hitting side and replace Steverson & Sparks with guys from outside the organization. 2) They let go of McEwing and bring in a different bench. Either this would be an outside guy who is more analytical-oriented to cover Ricky’s weaknesses or they promote Vizquel in fear of losing him in the not too distant future. I went back and forth on this, but ultimately chose scenario one. The hitting outside of a select few guys has been atrocious and plate discipline has practically been non-existent. While I could make a similar argument against the pitching coaches (and truly believe it’s time for Cooper to go), they are far more likely to be protected than Todd & Greg who were outside hires IMO. Also, Hahn citing the need to improve our OBP throughout the lineup is the biggest sign that Steverson & Sparks are on the hot seat.