DirtySox

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) A ranking of the signability/guestimated costs for the top draftees, especially the pitchers, would be cool. If anyone here has that expertise, much appreciated. Too soon for that. Give it a month or two. Edit: I'm talking signability here.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) We do agree, there must be something wrong with me. If this is a cover not to take Kolek, I think it's a bad idea. Like you said the #3 pick is too rare not to take the BPA. I really like Kolek too, but let's not pretend he's a slam dunk pick. There is considerable risk there, especially being a prep pitcher. He has a fantastic fastball but inconsistent secondaries. He also isn't all that polished for a prep arm. He's likely going to take some time to progress through the minors. I would have no problem taking him 3rd since he absolutely has a front-line SP ceiling, but there is a reason he isn't in the Rodon/Hoffman tier currently.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 01:25 PM) 43rd pick, which is why I want Reetz there as he is an athletic catcher projected to go in that slot. As far as catching prospects go, I have this feeling that Max Pentecost is going to have major helium and turn into a top 10 pick. Going to keep a close eye on him. As far as catching prospects that could be around in the second round sign me up for Evan Skoug. I'm probably biased though since he's a local guy who plays for Libertyville which is right near where I grew up.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) Both Lauman and Hahn have alluded to possibly taking a guy at #3 that would sign under slot and spreading out the money throughout the draft. I don't know what's going to be available at #3 right now but I'm not crazy about the idea I'm theory. I could go both ways on that. (Prefacing this: It's obviously still early and many things can and will change.) Unfortunately at this point in time, there is a clear top two tier of Rodon/Hoffman, then a drop off in talent level. There is no clear cut number 3 pick. You could make a feasible argument for MANY players at 3 right now. Kolek, Jackson, Turner, Gatewood, Gettys, Beede, Touissant, Holmes etc. If there is little distinction in who the Sox think the BPA is amongst the players available at 3, grab the cheaper guy and spread the savings on the premium tougher signs later. It helps stock the farm and creates depth for the apparent goal of having a more self sustained organization. The Royals did it last year by grabbing Hunter Dozier at 8, which enabled them the money to sign Sean Manaea later. The Astros did it in 2012, taking Carlos Correa 1st, allowing them to sign McCullers & Rio Ruiz with the savings. It's an interesting option, but if for whatever reason the Marlins don't take Hoffman the Sox better pounce on that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) Rodon, Hoffman, Kolek, Beede, Turner seems to be the 5 he's referring to. Yep. Beede is an interesting case. He's clearly not in the Rodon/Hoffman tier, but he certainly could be deemed worthy of the 3rd pick if he finally finds some command/control and some consistency with the secondaries. A snippet of a scouting report on Beede:

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 10:59 AM) Every other question was either ripping Dunn or Ventura. Just reading the recount on twitter is cringe worthy. Ugh.

Needless to say... Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 14m While it has been reported White Sox are meeting with Tanaka this week, they wouldn't be considered major players there at this point Expand

Lol.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 6, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) Likely have him pegged as a reliever due to funky motion. He WILL prove them wrong. Nope. Read the chat.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 16, 2013 -> 04:57 PM) Keith Law loving a White Sox trade? *gasp He also really liked the Adam Eaton trade. Despite what this board thinks, Keith Law does not have a vendetta against the White Sox.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2013 -> 01:12 PM) Reed's stuff is nothing special, and there's no need for a closer when you're in rebuilding mode. Reed's stuff is fine. Agreed about the second part though. Love the trade.

Love it. Relievers are largely fungible and the White Sox are pretty good at churning them out. Turning one into a potential everyday 3B position player is quite fine with me.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2013 -> 12:24 PM) Could not agree more. Let it ride this year, see where you are at developmentally on all of these players. Right now, I'm hopeful for about 75-80 wins while getting extended looks at Semien, Sanchez, and L. Garcia. I think 80 is a bit much, but definitely agree.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 10:09 PM) Ptatc is one cool customer. I would've went off on that clown. Word. The only place I see that dude post is in threads about ticket deals. I figured he's some desperate White Sox ticket broker.

Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 17m White Sox determined to get catcher at these meetings .

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 07:19 PM) So people really think Santiago should have netted more than an mlb starting cfer and lead off man that is cost controlled for many years? Jeez. I think it's a suitable return. Some Soxtalk members severely overrate Hector.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 01:31 PM) Vet MI, and an OF bat was always the course. Dealing SP to acquire was definitely something that was going to happen. I dont see them modifying the pen much if at all. Nothing on C or 3B?

I really hope Davidson is involved somehow as well. I'm okay with no Kendrick.

Me likey.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 05:01 PM) Anyone getting the assumption that if Sox do somehow deal Danks that Hahn will go hard after Tanaka? Nope. Not even a little bit.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 02:18 PM) Not. Gonna. Happen. Aww. I like trade rumors.

Please continue Sale talk in the Sale trade thread.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:32 AM) Jesus Christ let's put this to rest, Sale doesn't need to go anywhere but out to the mound on Opening Day wearing a Sox uniform. There will be no rest so long as there are rumors.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2013 -> 09:31 AM) They actually have prospects at positions that make the most sense, but this can't be what Hahn would consider to be a fair trade. He has to feel he won by a wide margin. The Dbacks are one of the few teams I feel could meet a Sale asking price.

Garfien: When Rick Hahn arrives here at MLB Winter Meetings, it sounds like GMs will want to talk with him about Chris Sale.