Flash Tizzle

Look at that lineup, I’m not surprised at all. It’s terrible

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9765025/Trevor-Bauer-accuser-told-enjoyed-choked-texts-reveal.html

What was missing from Gio’s initial response to JD was the denial. He never addressed whether it was ever used, but instead focused on JD’s character. It’s an easy distraction for the media and fans. Some people here need to step away from the fandom and look at the outside prospective. JD is a punk; but is he wrong? I’d say no

If we could even entice him with even a 3 year 45-60 mil contract with player/team options now I’d take the risk his arm falls off tomorrow. If he performs 75% of what he has so far for an entire season he’ll get more, but that’s the ultimate question of whether he wants to take the risk.

Great post, if you think about how Twitter and Facebook have become the new modern day message board, places like Soxtalk have become rare. If they exist, it’s because they predated modern social media. It’s much easier to pick apart posts for places like reddit. Say the same thing on Twitter, oh well it’s deleted. On to the next troll comment.

I believe you’re right. I actually think it’s good for the forum, too. Not everyone should be in agreement with every decision. There’s of course more negativity dominating the forum because of several bad losses, key injuries, slow starts, and the expectations entering the season.

Game threads haven’t changed. Every few years, some incident happens where members push the limit and the mods have to enforce rules. It’s never affected the baseball discussions. What’s the solution to the toxic culture you’re experiencing? Remove gamethreads? Moderate the negativity? Fine, but you’ll be burying this site. I never see this discussed - What about the opposite of the Soxtalk doomer, the overly enthusiastic superfans who post here? I find them just as annoying. But Id never suggest to limit discussions of members crowning Mercedes MVP in April or Cease Cy Young based on ST starts.

Damn right it was. I love how these threads bring out the old time members. A lot of the hated Soxtalk memes (Choke Crede, Jermaine Dead) were born from the depths of the chat lol

Then, as we’ve said many times, send him down if he cannot have consistent AB’s. I honestly believe if Eloy was in LF, we’d be having the same discussion with Vaughn and a limited amount of playing time. He might not have even made the team.

No one can say this wasn’t predictable either.

Wet ground excuse, clear sunny day excuse, he didn’t immediately produce at the plate excuse, the possibilities are endless

You’re right, I didn’t see Garcia is expected to sit out too.

It’s on Hahn as much as it is TLR. They’re purchasing contracts of AAAA players and giving their manager an opportunity to play them in place of Vaughn.

It’s opening day too. Why not let him experience it at home for the first time? No one in that stadium is paying to see Williams in LF

Such a scenario would suggest this all may end up working in our favor, and I’m skeptical we’d ever be as “fortunate” as to have that happen. We lose a season of Eloy...but perhaps gain more in the coming years with him at DH. Who knows how many years of Eloy goofs we’d have to go through before the final “enough already he’s a DH” sentiment from yesterday? Perhaps the next one would involve Robert or Moncada? I’m obviously just throwing around hypotheticals, but if we are going down the possibility of Vaughn succeeding in left field and Eloy at DH, then this all needed to happen...... (Cue Dr Strange’s million plus scenarios clip)

He should be excited to be given an on-field position. I wouldn’t expect him to say as much, but before today he was sitting as the DH with the possibility of being sent down. No one expects him to make up for Eloy’s absence, but if he is anything above the worst defensive OF in MLB it will be an Improvement

I agree. It’s too late, and we’re at too much of a disadvantage, to even bother trying to replace Eloy outside the organization. There will be no fair value trade with Vaughn. I just hate that it becomes a convenient excuse if he struggles. “How do you expect him to hit when he’s learning a new position!?”

I agree, they’re more than one year away..... from being a championship contender. However, the expectation should be set of the White Sox making the playoffs every year now. Regardless of the playoff format, or Minnesota and Cleveland, we cannot take any steps back from here.

I agree, they can’t count on this extended playoff format being around. There needs to be a lot of roster and personnel changes entering next season. This is not a championship team

Im oddly at peace after these first two games. Unless Game 3 is a continuation of the terrible games from the last two weeks, a “good loss” like today wouldn’t be shameful. I expected a sweep coming into Oakland.

Next year that “happy to be here” excuse goes away. They’ll have to earn it over a (likely) 162 game season. Anything less is a disaster. 2021 is what everyone is saying right? All those other rebuild teams took the next step after an initial playoff loss right? Hahn is going to have his work cut out this offseason

I think that’s the truth. They weren’t pushed by RR either. He may have thought the division and seeding was in the bag. Maybe he didn’t care. But all i know is, we’ll look back at 2020 as a great step forward with the rebuild....followed by a late season collapse.

Any other positional players we can throw out for a couple relief innings?

I believe most here are happy they made the playoffs, but understandably upset with how the last week has gone. Are you excited about Tue? I’m not, and I’d be shocked if anyone else here is either. We expect an early exit This season has been a great step forward for the rebuild, but it’s not done. And now let’s see how they perform in the coming season with some expectations

82-83 win team that benefited tremendously from a shortened season and an expanded playoff seeding. Regardless, now the expectations have started and anything less than a repeat playoff appearance will be unacceptable. Hahn has yet another tough offseason ahead of him. There needs to be quite a few upgrades (notably RF and in the starting rotation)