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Anyone else not have a good feeling about Sale tonight? I hope he puts on his big boy pants and doesn't fall apart against a good offensive team

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) It worked just fine in 2005. Yes, once it all cane together......10 years ago. What's sad to me is Minnesota last made the playoffs in 2010, conpletely dismantled their team, and in five years now are in a position to be in the playoffs. We've been trying to compete about every season since 2009, and are no better for it.

Dodgers don't need another starter for Sale's price, think of teams requiring pitching: Boston, Texas, Colorado, Arizona. Those teams are more feasible trading partners

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Montas, Micah Johnson and Avi are the 3 non-veterans that should absolutely be trade bait this offseason if they have value. I still wouldn't deal Montas. Judging from today he still has development left as a starter. His value isn't exactly low given his talent, but he definitely has potential and if I'm another GM im asking for him, hoping the White Sox think of Montas as a bullpen guy so they'd get him cheaper. Bring him up to Charlotte next season and have him develop a consister offspeed pitch. Perhaps he could lose a little bit if his pudge too

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 03:36 PM) They're on their way to the playoffs. Personal stats like that shouldn't be that important to them. Again, they don't have to jeopardize anything with the team if he's giving the opportunity during a blowout. Maybe they're aware, maybe the care, maybe not. But if so it's not an unreasonable accomodation

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Buehrle will need 14.2 innings his last two starts for 200. Not likely. Not likely, but not impossible. And who's to say he doesn't come out of the bullpen one day during a blowout for a few innings if he's short?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Just goes to show you how bad we are without Jay. I'm curious what the tape indicates on that pick. People covering Bears were indicating Bennett was supposed to stop and the pick was on Marty. Looked like Marty was settling in and then he all of a sudden took off on a curl (not sure what the route was). Either way, if we have learned one thing this week...our secondary f***ing blows (and I am not learning that this week...I've been saying it all along) and Claussen is terrible. Either way, this year is all about getting the top pick and Connor Cook. Absolutely, the Bears would have been in the running for Cook with Cutler; without him we may as well lay down and draft our franchise QB.

I'd really like to see Montas start a few games this season. I know people are insistent on trading him or placing him in the bullpen, but I'd really hope they'd continue stretching out his arm to be a starter. Next season, around midyear, if he's dominating In tge rotation bring him up and find him a spot.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) This might be the least interested I have been in a Sox game in a very long time. It's the White Sox just being their irrelevant self in September, yet again.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) One pick away from having a true building block on defense in Donald. That will sting for awhile. They'll be plenty of opportunities to draft building blocks next draft with how the Bears are playing

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 20, 2015 -> 12:57 AM) They have bad luck with NL players. Best solution - stop. The DH is also a money pit. If we want great players in their prime, we'll either have to trade for them or draft them. And we definitely can't corner the market on mid tier players and expect them to equal NL priduction Also, those one-year FA signings involving players coming off of injury or ineffectiveness with limited risk is what we should strive for across a few positions. I'd rather sign those players than committ any more money/years to what will likely be a terrible 2016

God the Sox are so terrible, it's beyond Fun Bad; which has characterized past teams. This is just......sad. No hope for this team. 10-1 now. May as well keep your ass in the dugout Cooper. Nothing you can do

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) He doesn't know anything. He's just guessing like anyone else. If he accepts, he'll be the first. Someone will be the first eventually. I'm still of the position not to offer him a QO. Even if there's a miniscule chance of keeping Shark for another season I wouldn't risk it considering his pitiful season.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 08:31 PM) At least Cabrera performed on the field. personally I think clubhouse chemistry is over rated. The "Swingin' A" of the early / mid 70's hated each other. yet they won three straight World Series. It's about talent, pure and simple. The Sox have very little of it. Mark I agree with the idea of how overrated clubhouse chemistry is. Mostly because as fans we have limited knowledge of how things really are behind closed doors. There's no way to know whether negative chemistry makes players underperform, or positive makes them perform well. Maybe one person can spoil everything; but I'd guess otherwise. Especially with the divide among Latin speaking and English players which I'm sure naturally exist.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) You disagree? The Sox scouting of major league players on other teams seems just awful. Only thing worse was season 2 of True Detective It's been an embarrassing year for the White Sox, and what's troubling is they can't even sell us on hope. Nothing short of a complete dismantling of office personnel, coaches, scouts and players will help this team. There's no, "oh lets make a few shrewd moves and we'll be able to compete. Nope.....it's going to take all the right moves to contend in 2017. If Hahn doesn't start by trading Quintana for a haul we may be screwed even further. I'll go as far as to say it will be the most important trade easily in the last decade for the White Sox. We have to realize how depleted we are offensively, how pitching is our surplus, and how valuable someone such as Q is considering talent and contract. Hahn HAS to succeed, and we shouldn't expect less as fans

Johnson got away with a hanger there, only a deep out. I'm not impressed with his command tonight either.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 15, 2015 -> 10:31 PM) Not giving him a QO at this point is crazy talk. He's getting a QO and he'll decline. He wants to get out of town. If for some reason, he accepted the QO, the Sox could still trade him or give him the QO next offseason. Getting nothing for him is really dumb and that won't happen. This reminds me of "If we don't get the offer we want for Shark before the deadline we can just let him go for a draft pick." There's too much risk with a QO because if he does accept, we are sure as HELL are not trading him for anything of value. Also can anyone tolerate this guy for another season? I'd rather take equal production for a fraction of the cost A cynic/crazy part of me thinks, Shark may throw aside his issues with Cooper (assuming they exist) and accept a QO to reestablish himself for the following offseason when the available SP market won't be as deep.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 15, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) So much for the QO/compensation argument. Whatever we would have received would have been better for the future than NOTHING or being stuck with one of the worst pitchers in baseball on a $17+ million one year contract. Even if he pitched well, the team doesn't have the horses to compete...he's blocking someone like Montas/Fulmer/Johnson and finally, he's soaking up valuable resources that should be going towards improving the offense. Hard to ask for more of a train wreck. The team's not bad enough to be terrible and receive a high draft pick, but hasn't realistically been in the WC hunt since stumbling after that winning streak and making the decision to keep Shark. Can't believe he would be pitching like this on a playoff contender...it's almost like he's sulking or doesn't care anymore...which is probably the feeling of most Sox fans as well. Exactly my sentiments. Not trading Shark has turned out to be a HUGE failure for the organization and yet another spoiled opportunity moving forward to acquire talent. I'm not even going to give Hahn any remorse, because while no one could have predicted this regression to absolute garbage, he retained Shark either under the guise of competing (which was ridiculous because many of us here knew this team wasn't a playoff contender), or was not satisfied with his trade value. While it wasn't on par with Scott Kazmir, even a step below his value was still worth more than the risk associated with a compensation round draft pick. At the time ofvthe trade deadline he was pitching quite well. All I can hope is they learn from their mistakes. I'd just ONCE like to see them trade someone at peak value. Deal someone like Quintana should all but be a certainty, and if I'm JR/KW whoever else I'm putting very high expectations on him to succeed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Look at how Hunter turned on the 96 mph fastball inside, and then looked like he was sitting on an 89 mph change-up on the outer half. He looked clueless against Quintana yesterday too. Today he's suddenly guessing miraculously what pitch is thrown. It may be something with how he's placing his glove, or some other tell, but If im the White Sox im looking into video of him and trying to see if he's giving away any pitches

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) Hunter absolutely looks like he knows what's coming There were a few Twins who acted as much.

It just doesn't add up how Johnson and Quintana pitch respectably against Minnesota and Sale implodes. They'e middle of the pack in offense, bot Toronto. I swear watching them it's like they know what's coming

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) He'd be the Cy Young front runner if he didn't have to face the Twins...dammit. I'm serious when I say that they should never have him face the Twins again. He's always awful against them. I just don't understand it. How can someone with his stuff not mow down their lineup? He has to be tipping something in his delivery. it's actually kind of embarrassing, because an ACE should not be avoiding any team. Expecially a division rival. Someone bettter figure it out

Johnson has good command of his fastball and locatea his changeup well. His breaking ball leaves something to be desired though.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 09:10 PM) Very nice job by Danks- always happy to see that. There are a litany of reasons why this team is where it is, and he's nowhere near the top. He pitches well against KC, i'll applaud him for that.

Even with a six run lead I wouldn't count out KC. They've had a a few hard hit outs the first time around