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White Sox decline option on Alexei Ramirez
Flash Tizzle replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Saufley @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 07:03 PM) In my wildest dream I cannot imagine Beckham back with the Sox next year. I hope that I am right. Yes, enough of Beckham. I can't wait until Danks is gone after 2016 and we're done with the "core" of those bad post 2008 teams. If nothing else, Hahn please try someone else for the exact limited production. I just want to see another face aside from Beckham's frat boy mug for more than half a season. And this time it should be permanent -
White Sox decline option on Alexei Ramirez
Flash Tizzle replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'd say 90% of Soxtalk did not see this coming. Sure as hell surprised me. I have read few, if any, offseason plans involving a restructured Alexi contract. If it's a restructured deal, I'm sure Hahn told Alexi the money saved would allow them to sign an additional FA. Of which would be geared towards 3B or 2B. If he leaves, I commend Hahn for atleast recognizing this collection of players isn't working and attempting something different. It's easy to sit back and say "alexi is the least of our problems" while accepting a below replacement level offensive and defensive player. -
QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 05:59 AM) with the success of the northsiders, i will say one thing. the sox's needs to come out with guns blazing. i would love the sox to fill up multi needs or holes in 1 fell swoop. but that will not happen, what they need to do is to make some exciting noise. something that the fans can see and hear, as they did last yr. if this is done, and done right, they will be able to continue to bring fans back. see those extra tickets and season tickets, and just maybe, they will not loose too may already season ticket holders. i hope they, the sox will not loose too much ground from last yr, success and just maybe stay close to the ticket sales. this is a large order and is going to require the sox FO to have some major stones to make the hard decision that is or will be needed. If we're using last year's offseason as a model for luring in season ticket sales (ie, something they can see and hear) then we're doomed to fail. If management concerns themself with building a sustainable winning ballclub, not just a team of "stop-gaps" we may be headed somewhere. Let's say an unbelievable offer comes along for Sale -- you take it, regardless of whether there's an emotional attachment to him. It always goes back to the team, anyway. If they're sluggish in April it'll completely undo any excitement from the offseason.
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QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Haha. Elrockin is taking that Beckham crush to the grave. I'm so tired of seeing him on this team. He just epitomizes the post 2008 Chicago White for me. Mediocrity mixed in with BAD, and when you think it's all over......look who comes back for more terrible baseball! Oh, may as well throw in the disclaimers: Yes, it's not his fault the team has thrust him into a starting role Yes, he's not responsible for poorly constructed teams Yes, he's capable of playing multiple positions I understand all the excuses. I just don't want to see him or hear his walkup music anymore. Atleast now we have better IF options and his exit (permanent this team) should be guaranteed
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) The Cubs will likely get one of those pitchers (top five free agent pitchers). Less likely, they might trade one of their good young players (Javier Baez?) in a package for a top starting pitcher. It will be interesting to see if the Chicago White Sox even consider trading Chris Sale, or if the Oakland A's will listen to offers for Sonny Gray. Tim Kurkjian, espn.com Yeah...... Javier Baez is not going to be involved as a centerpiece of any top starting pitcher on our team. Atleast I hope to hell not
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Really...that quick you can sign with new teams? I always remembered a period where you had exclusive rights. Clearly I am remembering wrong. Off-season is going to get started quickly here. I love it and wish it could get started the day after the World Series. Hahn has so much work to do to right this disaster, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. I really hope we look back on this offseason as the period of time Hahn began our turn around with shrewd FA pickups and trades
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:48 PM) Holy s*** it was joke about the 2006 team. Yeah it flew over my head. I Didn't remember their team was as good offensively as it was that year. It was even better than this years Toronto team
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:41 PM) And now they will win 90 games next year behind stellar offense and OK pitching as their bullpen implodes and they will miss the playoffs. Are yet we'll still be figuring out what we're doing as the team wins 79 games and misses the playoffs for the eight straight season Btw those WS hats look terrible. It's like a damn Nascar hat.
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Congrats KC! I'm happy for them representing the ALC.
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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:27 PM) You wouldn't bet against a single team not making the World Series? That's an easy bet to make, no matter who the team is. You take everything so literal it's hilarious. Point is, last season everyone made excuses and explained the Royals wouldn't make it back. They did. And yes statistically it's probably not going to happen; but I wouldn't flat out just say they won't be back as you suggest.
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A lot of empty seats from some views looking behind home plate. I'm sure it must hurt to watch, but cmon mets fans -- may as well just sit around and watch someone celebrate
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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:22 PM) Royals not making 3 World Series in a row. I wouldn't bet on that. Although I'd say the Royals have a better shot of making the 3rd world series than we do even making the playoffs
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QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:21 PM) I know most of you guys can't stand KC, but I really enjoy wathing them play. I envy their execution. Wish the Sox could just do even a fraction of what KC does. I feel the same, and I'm definitely envious of their talent.
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:14 PM) The Mets blew 2 9th inning leads and one 8th inning lead. SMH. That's excruciating for their fans knowing the lead has been in their hands late in all but one game. Atleast their troubles can be addressed -- Murphy and Cespedes are gone, two defensive quagmires. I'm sure they'll find defensive replacements. And they'll definitely need more bullpen help. Having an extra starter with Wheeler coming back, may as well deal Matz
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Pile it on KC! You knew damn well runs were going to score after that miscue. Not like it would have mattered with 1 out and runner on second, more a feeling of "here we go"
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QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) 4 straight sliders, just a total choke by the Mets this series You're guaranteed atleast one hanger from Reed in any given AB Murphy horrendous defensively again. Announcers making excuses for him lol
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Better off walking Gordon than throwing a meat pitch here
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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) Yost saving his closer on the road until he gets a lead. That never works. No kidding, I'd rather throw Davis out for two and worry about every inning afterward when it arrives, then keeping Davis waiting for a lead that may never come. They got out of the inning so everything is good for now
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) Collins is so pissed lol. He knows what awaits with questioning if Mets lose. He fell for the possible headline of "Harvey throws CG Shutout," and gave into the crowd. After that walk he should have been yanked. It was just terrible
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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:08 PM) He should have been out by a mile. Should have.....but wasn't. We should be saying that about many plays this series. It's like watching the White Sox Lets go Royals! Close it out!
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 11:38 PM) Cespedes OR Frazier (not both) is exactly what we've become conditioned to expect. Doing something to make a big splash, or not doing enough due diligence to determine if the player's even going to be a good fit or whether this particular coaching staff can extract the maximum performance from him... The odds are ten times better if you allocated Cespedes' $100 million across 4-6 players like KW did entering 2005...but Hahn has shown no ability to identify the right second and third tier players. Abreu is the only outlier. Signing Tanaka or Shark would have been disasters. I'm not advocating that we should throw out maximum dollars to entice top tier FA's. It was more a sarcastic comment about the unlikelihood of us being in a World Series, dethrowning KC, with our special blend of "low tisk high reward" signings or 1-2yr stop gap options. What's sad though is they're actually trying to succeed.....which makes seasons such as 2015 all the more pathetic. And KC winning a World Series makes our likely path of second/third tier options all the more pathetic when it'll only marginally improve our team. Maybe with the new WC format we can hope to improve 10 games and atleast be in the hunt, but as you mentioned Minnesota and Twins are better positioned to compete moving forward. Hahn has a LOT of work to do. It'll definitely be exciting around these parts. Hopefully Hahn turns in a magical offseason where we get a franchise changing trade, key FA signings and a bit if luck. We sure as hell need it
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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 31, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) And I disagree. The Royals set the standard by winning 95 games, them winning a few short playoff series that are each basically a toss-up doesn't change anything. If the Astros had held on to their 4-run lead in Game 4 of the ALDS, the distance from Point A to Point B would be exactly the same. This changes nothing. Oh come on. It changes nothing, really? So we're just going to go about assembling our team with second third tier FA and cast away FA's to compete against a DIVISIONAL opponent, twice in the World Series and likely to win it this season, even after Williams has acknowledged we're in our three year window? Point A to Point B changes when the Royals have more revenue from a World Series run to retain, sign, extend vital playera for their success.
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Go Royals! I can't wait for Hahn to assemble a team to compete with the World Series champions...
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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 09:33 PM) Royals are stealing signs. Maybe, but Degrom had no offspeed pitches tonight. If everything was on with his repetoire I'd be more willing to believe it.
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QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:46 PM) s***. This kc team is unreal. Degromm's offspeed pitches are meat tonight. Evidenced by his low strikeout total. I haven't been impressed with him tonight. But yes, KC is good and I'm GLAD they're winning. Give some inspiration to Hahn and company to compete with the World Series champions......hopefully
