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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) Give them Mitchell. Nah, Mitchell is more valuable to us as a future September callup/pinch runner/embodiment of the system's failures.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) I have posted a Drive trailer in the past, this is the newly released international trailer. I have really come to appreciate Gosling. He could have easily fallen into the Rom-Com group and increased his exposure, but he has been pretty selective in his choices. I like pretty much all of his work I haven't much of his work, but I've seen Stay and he was phenomenal in that. He fits well into soft spoken character roles.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) Missed it, good defense? Great jump on a shallow fly ball to CF for the diving catch.

This is what it looks like when Rios cares, I guess.

Beckham just doing his thang, finding fastballs impossible to catch up to and yet again embarrassing himself.

Lillibridge obviously looking for an offspeed pitch, because Holland threw all his fastballs right down the plate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 12:11 PM) And you know this how? Walker only wants to work for the White Sox. So many people think saying something to someone and throwing pixie dust into the air will make anyone a .330 hitter with 40 home run potential. Beckham is struggling right now. Its not uncommon in young players. Heyward is struggling. Morrision was sent to the minors under the guise he was struggling. BJ Upton has struggled. Delmon Young has been pretty bad. More struggle than do not. It sometimes takes a while. You can pick any hitting coach out there and someone is struggling under their "watch". Anyone who has ever played should know you can know exactly what you are doing wrong and exactly what needs to be done to correct it, but it still takes a while. You have to have it built in. If you go up to the plate thinking about 100 things, you are screwed. As for Beckham's swing. Let me get this straight, the Sox draft Beckham, he goes to the minor leagues and Walker calls up and tells him he needs to change his swing? Is that how this went? Please give me what you're smoking. As Ozzie said, the minor leagues are for instruction. In the majors is tweaks. If you have no idea how to hit when you get to the major leagues, again, you're screwed. I now want Walker fired for no other reason than to see your reaction. And if the major leagues is only for tweaking hitters, Walker has failed at that too. Time for him to do whatever he does in the postseason permanently.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) Im at a loss. This team is a tease. There will be no good opening thoughts on this thread anyways, sooo f*** it. Go White Sox. Try and Win. meh Be prepared for another tease. I won't fall for it, but it's predictable -- by September 5th (immediately after a three game series against the Tigers) they'll be within 2 games. September isn't quite September without the White Sox falling apart at the hands of the Twins, and since the four game series will matter (unlike the one earlier in the month) they'll crap themselves.

QUOTE (SI1020 @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) Here is a scouting report from 2009 that praises his swing. Beckham scouting report I stand by my original post. His swing has gone to hell. After the draft, I recall a website posting a video comparison of Gordan Beckham's swing to that of...........Alex Rodriguez. They were nearly identical. There was no excessive looping action. I honestly believe it was a case of scouting reports identifying a weakness, and Walker/Beckham completely overhauling his swing to accommodate that weakness; which only spiraled out of control.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) Take this for what it is worth. Spoke with my guy on 35th today. This is the only scenario he knows that has been discussed. 1.) Guillen/Cooper out (presumably will go to Florida) 2.) Williams moved up or moved out. 3.) Hahn new GM. 4.) La Russa/Duncan hired. La Russa/Duncan hire would mean no rebuild. Under this scenario, I couldn't be happier to miss the playoffs. Even if it means the loss of Cooper.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) That's probably my third favorite. "See you in hell, CANDY BOYS!" News reporter: Homer sleeps with sheet that he believes gives him sexual powers! Homer: Aw, that's the half truth!

Simpsons travel to Australia because of Bart's lost distance, phone-call shenanigans The short stories episode (Smithers stung by bee, Tall man chases Nelson for laughing at him, etc.) Jay Sherman visits The Simpsons for their Springfield Film Festival

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) OK then. What's worse than benching Quentin for Rios is hitting him 5th, right behind Dunn. Why yes, let's have quite possibly the two worst offensive players in baseball bat back-to-back. Edit: WAR says that Dunn and Rios are actually the two worst players in baseball. Incredible. If I'm Pavano, Konerko doesn't see one hittable pitch tonight.

QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) I'm not going to address all of the fallacies here. I simply don't want to spend my time doing it right now. I'm going out. Anyway, it wouldn't take the sharpest mind in the world to come up with a counter argument for each of these, and bring up positive points that you had not mentioned. Hell, you could probably even do it. More important to my point is what I said in #36. Its a philosophical position I've taken, and there are no right answers. That is just my opinion. Have a lovely day. You shouldn't be allowed to post again until you address every one of Caufield's points. When you call out people to present counter arguments to your position, and someone does exactly, it's just cowardly of you to call them "fallacies" as you slowly back away from the computer. Also, deciding whether or not to sell is not something of a philosophical question. Quit making it out to be more than it is. Either you believe the team is in it or not -- there's definitely a right and wrong answer, as we've seen this last week.

Lineup: Pierre, Ramirez, Konerko, Dunn, Quentin, Pierzynski, Beckham, De Aza, Morel

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Jon has updated the spacing in the article as well as apologized via the Tweet. He also informed me that he would like to apologize to the members of the forum as well over the confusion. I give him credit, then. I don't believe many within the media feel the need to held accountable. And let's face it, we're a small minority of his readership; he could have easily brushed us off.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) I often wonder how many people with different views just dont even bother to post because they dont want to deal with the mob. Great, yet another group of whiney Soxtalk members who can say the last couple years they've been discouraged from posting. I don't see J4L or Greg having a problem. Also, I'm rooting for the team to lose to hasten the firings of Guillen and Williams; I'd say that's a radically different view.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) That seems like a scary big risk to me. Yeah, we wouldn't without a clear cut replacement for him; but I could imagine a team figuring that for what his potential may be as a starter they could give us a few top prospects. It'd be a good bargain too if he amounts to anything in a rotation.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:40 PM) There's a possibility they can still move Thornton this year. How many teams would claim someone owed that kind of money as a set-up guy, and at his age? I think not very many. You could argue more strongly that it might end up being the best time to have maximized Danks' value, based on his June/July numbers. And Quentin. Trade Santos? He's one of the biggest bargains on the team. We still don't even know for sure that Sale can make the transition to starting...to act like he has the value of Randy Johnson instead of Aaron Poreda/Royce Ring isn't accurate either. Does he have great stuff and multiple pitches? Yes. Does he have a very slight frame and/or mechanics that might not hold up? Possibly. Of course, the same concerns existed about Gio when he was drafted and he's turned out pretty good as a starter. I could see another team trading for Santos and developing him into a starter. He's a fresh arm with not a lot of tear; it's not unreasonable. If you have three potential plus pitches, you should be given the opportunity. I'd consider his delivery a lot cleaner than Sale's, who everyone here is (rightfully) yelling to be stretched out.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) Change may be imminent, but seriously, we are not playing with the house's money any more like we were after 2005. This team could be in for a long long rebuilding road. This season may be our best season in a long time. I don't think any White Sox fans are ready for that pain. Let's say we have 4-6 straight seasons of sub .500 baseball. Ugh. I'm just saying the change you want may result in a way worse pitching staff. Coupled with our rich underachieving offense that may result in us being the worst team in baseball for a long time. I'm ready for it. If we had begun the rebuilding in 2007, as myself and others wanted, we would have been through this 4-6 year window you're throwing out. Don't you feel that we just keep delaying the inevitable? What, are we going to have this same discussion in four years? If we do happen to undergo a 5 year period of suck and attendance suffers, once we shape up our system and develop some all-star caliber talent and contend one season, attendance will shoot back up and we'll be able to sign FAs. That's what we have that KC and Pittsburgh don't have -- a large fanbase (even if they are fickle). And if takes longer than 5 years, so be it. We have to learn how to develop.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) To be fair, I didnt take it that way at all. I thought Ozzie Jr was pointing out that the fans can get pretty nasty towards his father. I have no doubt that its probably true those things have been said or written (maybe not here, but somewhere). It was some what of a martyr statement. I post here, I never thought for a second he was implying Im a racist. At worst I thought he was implying that some of our posters are less than eloquent when making their statements, and that I can agree with. LOL it's funny that you actually believe what you're typing here. Typical lawyer sentiment, where everyone can read and comprehend a sentence that CLEARLY implicates our site as both racist and guilty of inflammatory remarks, yet apparently there's deeper meaning that only you can view. Is this the "even the guilty deserve representation" part of you coming out?

QUOTE (SnB @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 10:54 AM) The no hitter was the first low point, then they crept their way back up and hit rock bottom again last night. I just find it amazing that all of this happened immediately after the deadline. We were 3 games out just 5 days ago, ridiculous. For future reference, if we're with a similar team that is meddling around. 500 but still within range of 1st, I hope we have a general manager with some balls to do what's right. There was that post on Twitter before the deadline were an anonymous source believed Williams didn't foresee the team as a contender. He should have went his instinct instead of worrying about people screaming "White Flag!!" or not attending games after a sell off. Now look at the result -- we're worse off for not dealing Quentin/Thornton, basically look dead as a team, AND people are not attending games!

It's just that part of you that wants everything to get worse. You want to see Guillen fall apart, Williams make a few more ridiculous roster decisions, Dunn strikeout a few more times, Rios make a few more defensive miscues, etc., because you know they're not going anywhere. If they're destined to lose, why not make it a bit more interesting? I believe that's the appeal of fun-bad.

We all know Guillen Jr.'s comments weren't based in fact, and from my perspective, that's all that matters. Let the author of the article and their readers believe otherwise, it shouldn't matter. Unless there's an influx of Mexican/Guillen hating posters, we exist as a community to talk with one another -- not appease outsiders. It should be irrelevant how they perceive our posts. It's a message board, not anything more than that. I know my position won't be supported by many judging from the reactions thus far, but fighting this with emails seems like a strongly worded United Nations letter; ie, good intentions, but nothing substantial will come from it. Do we expect Greenberg to imply to his readers he didn't do his homework and research the comments himself?