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QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Walker is a class act. That said, I have wanted a new hitting coach since 2006. Even in 2005 Dye and Konerko had long slumps. The way he handled those questions was excellent. Team first. I try to never wish another person to lose their job. Perhaps Walker can have a different role in the organization or maybe they add a second hitting coach which Hawk always suggests. The Sox can not dump Rios and Dunn and would be crazy to dump Bacon until another coach tries to fix him. The Sox would be foolish to risk Viciedo, De Aza, Flowers future as hitters as well. 1. Replace the manager and coaches 2. See if team improves 3. If they don't improve, KW has to be accountable NO, enough chances; Williams is done. Everyone stop coming up with these scenarios that give anyone currently in a coaching/managing position one more chance. Everyone has been here for long enough that we know what they've done, and what they're capable of. The time has come to start over. And what exactly is "improvement" in your eyes? If I was a Williams fan, I'd say that exact line too and then when the team wins 85 games next year I'd come up with some other excuse to justify holding onto him. There will always be a million.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) Where is Dick Allen in all of this? It took this long for KW to figure out the swing that Gordon took with him from Georgia was better? LOL, I thought most of us with the exception of the Walker apologists believed that. The guy was a stud. Now he's a headcase. And good luck getting him back to where he was, I don't see it happening, even after Walker is fired. I think the damage is done, but I hope I'm wrong. LOL and I recall people suggesting his personality and level swing would allow him not to be in extended slumps. He may look and have the personality of some rugby meathead, but he obviously knows that something is fundamentally wrong his his swing. I remember one day (I don't watch games too often, now) hearing a different song when he approached the plate at home. The Outfield was s***canned. I guess he's to that point now where even a different entrance song would be a welcomed change.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) And we'd be pretty much in first place if it weren't for that 11-22 start, right? I don't believe players think about themselves any differently than us. When I read posts that basically amount to shoulder shrugging and pointing out the calendar date to avoid feeling urgency, I honestly feel the same is felt in the clubhouse. Next season begins in early March, not April. That doesn't mean manage to win meaningless spring training games, but everyone should be putting forth the full effort. Not just using it as an extended vacation, and then thinking to themselves "I'll wait until the season to begin giving a s*** and working on my swing."

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) Some things crossed my mind when reading the story: (1) I saw Kenny Williams play in his only good hitting year (1987) and I don't think he has anything to tell the hitting coach on how to do his job better. But, he is the GM (2) Walker says to keep what happened in the locker room and that is a good way to make sure the fans might never really know what took place here and I for one would like to know what really ignited this issue (3) Going back to KW being the GM and supposedly having authority over the manager and coaches and seeing Jerry intervene makes you wonder about the status of everyone next year (4) Jerry is the owner and the boss and aybe is the cooler head in the case. If changes will be made they wilol be made after the season is over and my guess he will be making them for sure. As Walker said though this has been a very frustrating year Walker is also looking out for his future. He can't be spilling secrets and then expect another team to bring him on board. Even though the extent of his future in professional baseball should be nothing more than a base-coach, who knows what JR has lined up for him.

I'm actually enjoying all this bickering between everyone in the organization. If I could, I would instigate it further. If it wasn't for any of this I wouldn't be paying attention to this heaping pile of filth on the field.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) I don't really have a beef with Ozzie for playing them...it's in our best interests to try and get these guys going again since we have them signed long-term. What I do have an issue with is his insistence on batting them in critical positions in the batting order. This only works to exacerbate the problem more. Hard to defend hitting Dunn and Rios anywhere but in the bottom third of the order, even when we're already running Beckham and Morel out there. It's in our best interests to win baseball games, and continuing to play Dunn and Rios anywhere in the lineup with any consistency doesn't help us achieve that.

QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Aug 27, 2011 -> 11:06 PM) I cant wait for them to trade Danks, they couldnt possibly f*** that up I'm basically setting the expectations upon our GM to deliver a franchise changing deal involving atleast two blue chip prospects (does not include a RP or 4thOF) from any trade involving Danks. It's necessary for our improvement. And they damn well better produce.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 26, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) Say hello to the Pierre Rios De Aza outfield. I mean, were in the pennant race! Viciedo will have to rake whenever he's in the lineup to find consistent playing time, and even then, I expect a few of those "Viciedo has been on fire these last three games, why is he sitting?" posts.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) Give them Mitchell. Nah, Mitchell is more valuable to us as a future September callup/pinch runner/embodiment of the system's failures.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 25, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) I have posted a Drive trailer in the past, this is the newly released international trailer. I have really come to appreciate Gosling. He could have easily fallen into the Rom-Com group and increased his exposure, but he has been pretty selective in his choices. I like pretty much all of his work I haven't much of his work, but I've seen Stay and he was phenomenal in that. He fits well into soft spoken character roles.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 21, 2011 -> 01:50 PM) Missed it, good defense? Great jump on a shallow fly ball to CF for the diving catch.

This is what it looks like when Rios cares, I guess.

Beckham just doing his thang, finding fastballs impossible to catch up to and yet again embarrassing himself.

Lillibridge obviously looking for an offspeed pitch, because Holland threw all his fastballs right down the plate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 12:11 PM) And you know this how? Walker only wants to work for the White Sox. So many people think saying something to someone and throwing pixie dust into the air will make anyone a .330 hitter with 40 home run potential. Beckham is struggling right now. Its not uncommon in young players. Heyward is struggling. Morrision was sent to the minors under the guise he was struggling. BJ Upton has struggled. Delmon Young has been pretty bad. More struggle than do not. It sometimes takes a while. You can pick any hitting coach out there and someone is struggling under their "watch". Anyone who has ever played should know you can know exactly what you are doing wrong and exactly what needs to be done to correct it, but it still takes a while. You have to have it built in. If you go up to the plate thinking about 100 things, you are screwed. As for Beckham's swing. Let me get this straight, the Sox draft Beckham, he goes to the minor leagues and Walker calls up and tells him he needs to change his swing? Is that how this went? Please give me what you're smoking. As Ozzie said, the minor leagues are for instruction. In the majors is tweaks. If you have no idea how to hit when you get to the major leagues, again, you're screwed. I now want Walker fired for no other reason than to see your reaction. And if the major leagues is only for tweaking hitters, Walker has failed at that too. Time for him to do whatever he does in the postseason permanently.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) Im at a loss. This team is a tease. There will be no good opening thoughts on this thread anyways, sooo f*** it. Go White Sox. Try and Win. meh Be prepared for another tease. I won't fall for it, but it's predictable -- by September 5th (immediately after a three game series against the Tigers) they'll be within 2 games. September isn't quite September without the White Sox falling apart at the hands of the Twins, and since the four game series will matter (unlike the one earlier in the month) they'll crap themselves.

QUOTE (SI1020 @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) Here is a scouting report from 2009 that praises his swing. Beckham scouting report I stand by my original post. His swing has gone to hell. After the draft, I recall a website posting a video comparison of Gordan Beckham's swing to that of...........Alex Rodriguez. They were nearly identical. There was no excessive looping action. I honestly believe it was a case of scouting reports identifying a weakness, and Walker/Beckham completely overhauling his swing to accommodate that weakness; which only spiraled out of control.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 14, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) Take this for what it is worth. Spoke with my guy on 35th today. This is the only scenario he knows that has been discussed. 1.) Guillen/Cooper out (presumably will go to Florida) 2.) Williams moved up or moved out. 3.) Hahn new GM. 4.) La Russa/Duncan hired. La Russa/Duncan hire would mean no rebuild. Under this scenario, I couldn't be happier to miss the playoffs. Even if it means the loss of Cooper.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) That's probably my third favorite. "See you in hell, CANDY BOYS!" News reporter: Homer sleeps with sheet that he believes gives him sexual powers! Homer: Aw, that's the half truth!

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QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) OK then. What's worse than benching Quentin for Rios is hitting him 5th, right behind Dunn. Why yes, let's have quite possibly the two worst offensive players in baseball bat back-to-back. Edit: WAR says that Dunn and Rios are actually the two worst players in baseball. Incredible. If I'm Pavano, Konerko doesn't see one hittable pitch tonight.

QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) I'm not going to address all of the fallacies here. I simply don't want to spend my time doing it right now. I'm going out. Anyway, it wouldn't take the sharpest mind in the world to come up with a counter argument for each of these, and bring up positive points that you had not mentioned. Hell, you could probably even do it. More important to my point is what I said in #36. Its a philosophical position I've taken, and there are no right answers. That is just my opinion. Have a lovely day. You shouldn't be allowed to post again until you address every one of Caufield's points. When you call out people to present counter arguments to your position, and someone does exactly, it's just cowardly of you to call them "fallacies" as you slowly back away from the computer. Also, deciding whether or not to sell is not something of a philosophical question. Quit making it out to be more than it is. Either you believe the team is in it or not -- there's definitely a right and wrong answer, as we've seen this last week.

Lineup: Pierre, Ramirez, Konerko, Dunn, Quentin, Pierzynski, Beckham, De Aza, Morel

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Jon has updated the spacing in the article as well as apologized via the Tweet. He also informed me that he would like to apologize to the members of the forum as well over the confusion. I give him credit, then. I don't believe many within the media feel the need to held accountable. And let's face it, we're a small minority of his readership; he could have easily brushed us off.