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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:26 PM) So that's why all of the teams in major league baseball hire guys with absolutely no experience whatsoever. It mustn't help at all.wjo Those with no experience just aren't given a chance right away. It doesn't mean they can't do it, but most have to pay their dues and "learn" (whether they actually do or not) alongside a major league manager. I also have to imagine most GM's make those hires looking out for their own asses. It's easier to pick the re-tread or the popular pick than someone new to the job. For Williams to make it, it suggests to me he's confident in his job. He's not going anywhere, atleast for the next few seasons. Honestly, there's no one they could have hired that would have made me react any differently than now. When they're situated to compete, then I'll care. For now, they're treading and if Ventura is terrible then he'll just fit alongside our terrible team. Perfect match.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) None of this is can be very good. Williams is atrocious at this own job. I'd care more if I thought this team was in a position to compete next season. Let the guy learn. If we're terrible, perhaps that will be it for Williams. I preferred Dave Martinez too, but I wasn't shocked. It was a White Sox type of move. Kind of like the same feeling I have on draft day when they do what they do.

Happy birthday to Soxtalk's Polish Hammer

How often does this happen in modern baseball, for someone with no prior experience in ANY form of coaching to be given a major league managers job? It's not even an issue of mine that he'll be over his head (I personally believe it's always more a "you have to earn your dues" type of job), but what it suggests with Williams. I just see this as a manager who will be constantly under the direction of the GM. In some ways, I can cheer the oversight-- Guillen was reluctant to sit veterans and give rookies extended playing time. If Ventura does this s*** Willaims can give him a kick in the ass. But, the game is about respect, too -- and I wonder how the players will react to him. Overall, I don't have a problem with the hiring. The team will likely have a few mediocre seasons as it is, and if they're attempting to rebuild then it won't matter who is managing the team.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) He'll be back. Sure, as some part of our organization one day, but that whole display doesn't appear to be anything less than a goodbye gesture. Cooper knows better than anyone, and I'd say he knows Buehrle is gawn.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:15 PM) Like I've said, it's a slap in the face of the fans. "Players look forward to the bonus as a nice Christmas present" -- Hawk yesterday

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:26 PM) I think I've agreed with SS2K5 and Balta more in the last month (mainly since Victory registered) than I have in the last two years combined. I don't like this at all. I would join filibuster (that would make things normal again). But that could get ugly - aka the Gordon Beckham gay thread. I've rarely had the motivation to even browse Soxtalk these last few months, but I've taken notice of Balta's shift in demeanor. He's much more critical of this team. Not that any of it isn't justified, but coming from him I'm not used to it. For anyone not around that often it's even more noticeable.

HAHA, no fan touched that ball. One whiffed and the ball hit the guard rail on a bounce.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 06:37 AM) Ozzie is not why this team did not win the division this season. What is with you continuing to post this? I don't know of one person that has said that line. It doesn't even f***ing matter, either way. He's unable to properly use his lineup, often his pitching staff, and has a demeanor that has just run its course.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 10:25 PM) Even though I joked about Dunn pitching, it's insane to hear the news that he almost did pitch. And then watch him stand up there and throw a 99 mph fastball. He's sure built like Jenks.

I haven't done so in awhile, but I'm listening to the post-game show tonight. I have to hear Rongey talk about this.

The most selfish act of the game was Escobar jumping up for that ball. For a split second I was hoping it'd split the gap, perhaps rattle around to allow another run to score.

Well, our guys are doing their best to throw back out the pitching staff as quickly as possible.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) Wow, what a debacle. Shane Lindsay is absolutely awful. I'm sorry though, having Cabrera bat there in a 14-0 game is worthy of someone getting thrown at. Unless he wants another pitch, his time in the majors won't be very long.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Ozzie should thank his lucky stars tomorrow is a holiday. He'd get torn to shreds by the sports media/radio tomorrow if not. They came in having to sweep and instead soiled their panties. All of these losses were terrible, too. They finally did what we all expected, and fall apart in September. KEEP THE RUNS COMING, DETROIT!

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 09:33 PM) Morel looks like a 10 year old. Morel actually looks like Derrick Turnbow.....which is part of the problem, here.

At this point, everyone should just take joy in their losses. Let it be a fun mixture of bad baseball, terrible coaching, and hopefully more in-fighting between Williams and the coaches!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Did you play in the major leagues? How do you know coaches win games? U think for a minute Ozzie might be right about that? Even if he is, I'd rather be 'right' with another coach. His time is done.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) OG before the game tonight wants ALL coaches back. With the recent flap over a shouting match between hitting coach Greg Walker and GM Ken Williams, Guillen was asked if he were offered an extension by Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf only if he would give up some of his coaches, what would he do? "I'd say, 'Wow, we got to talk about it,' because I feel comfortable with our coaching staff," Guillen said. "Coaches don't win games. They help players, but they don't win games. ... I got the greatest coaches for me. I've got very good coaches." CAN I F'N PUKE! He can take Cooper with him if that's what it takes to rid this team of Walker and Guillen.

Pitch around Konerko. Preserve the shutout.

The White Sox just can't make me happy.......

Please no hit us. Why not at this point?

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) So the 2005 team won despite Oz and the 2011 team lost because of Oz. His time has come. Just be at peace with it.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 4, 2011 -> 12:37 PM) Yeah, but you end it still friends right? And it's not personal. Winning changes everything. Maybe 2012 becomes the make or break for Ozzie, the coaches and KW MAYBE 2012 is the year?! You sound ridiculous right now. Why exactly should any of those names be given another season? I'll take a guess -- "see what happens with Dunn, maybe Guillen will understand not to hesitate substituting struggling veterans, watch young players progress with team." But then there's always the unexpected, every season has it. A surprise injury, or maybe another mystery player or two under performs. You'll never have your perfect term by which to judge the coaches and general manager.