Flash Tizzle

http://www.soxtalk.com/chat/chatroom.html It's back. Oh lord is it back.

I feel today is the right opportunity for a mid-season reunion of the chat. LETS GO. http://www.soxtalk.com/chat/chatroom.html

I haven't watched an entire Sox game in about a month. I've also abandoned my beloved chat, which I care for more than that filth on the field. All we can hope for is that several future mlb players emerge from the impending deals. Any future resurgence depends on outside prospects, because is anyone confident with what we have?

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 03:50 PM) Sickels said this; I'd like for Colon to slide down to 13, but doubt that happens. Wimmers is too Lance Broadway / Kyle McCullough for my liking. Even Workman doesn't do much for me. Few aside from Harvey and Ranaudo do. This draft doesn't seem to have a lot of pitching depth, that's atleast the perception I get from looking around at profiles of players projected to be available around our slot.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) Are you being serious, Steve? YOU, of all people, are going to call ME creepy? Ok. I'm just going to say this now because I have been seeing this nonsense all over the board. WE HAVE A CUTE GIRL POSTING AT SOXTALK. Stop the presses. Enough with all the lame comments about "this thread is getting weird," or "this thread is getting creepy," or whatever. It's only creepy or weird when people say s*** like that. In regards to myself, I "wink" at posters all the damn time, and no one calls me creepy. Why it should be considered creepy when I do it to a female poster seems ridiculous to me. In regards to the rest of the people responding to girlslikebaseball, she obviously has thick skin, she's used to being around men (and boys), and she isn't going to go running into her bedroom and play with her barbies because we like to talk about women and we swear. She can handle herself, so just pretend as if she is one of the guys (obviously to a point). Now let's ALL GET OVER OURSELVES and move on as usual, because I am tired of all the silly jockeying, commenting, and just overall lame-ass behavior because of the fact that we have a young lady in our presence. In response to your personal message, I don't believe it'd be appropriate to ask her to show a picture of his ass tattoo. I'm sure it exists, whether or not we have photographic proof.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 03:27 PM) Only reason I brought that up is that other teams have pulled off that move with some success in the first round. The problem is not going after those type of guys, the problem is going after those type of guys and then figuring out too late that they're awful. Of course there are exceptions (Leake's final college year is comparable to Broadways), but with us, I don't think the issue is only drafting soft tossers vs. those who are more projectable, but this inability we have to develop anyone, at any slot. Perhaps Loux will have a successful career somewhere. All I know is when I hear ourselves associated with him I go back to the pitiful years of drafting and the mindset which allowed our failures to flourish, mainly this idea of drafting safe. It was as if people were thinking of them more as trading chips than contributing players down the line.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) It's weird to think, but all of the players from 2005 may be gone before the end of the season (and almost certainly before the start of next season). I remember a while back when I said I wouldn't truly be happy until all the 2005 White Sox players were gone. Looks like I wont have to wait long! To be honest, I have no loyalty with any players in sports. Buehrle and Konerko could leave tomorrow and I wouldn't care. They both had their great years here, certainly have provided a lot of good memories, but when you're gone you're gone in my mind. Anyways, we all know damn well the minute anyone leaves they'll be rumored to return here at some point.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) You honestly believe we wouldn't get one top 10 prospect from a team for Thornton? That's crazy IMO. I think we'd probably get two, I think the question is how highly rated would the better one be. I meant Top 10 in the league, which really didn't need to be said.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) Thornton is a guy we deal because people will actually give up something tangible for. If KW gets a call, he should listen. I'd like it if Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Beckham, Ramirez, TCQ, and Rios could survive the purge. I might be being stubborn, but i think they still have long-term value to this franchise. Thornton is all fastball. When he loses that, he'll lose his dominance. I'd rather trade him now than later. We're going to receive crap for our veterans, anyway. Let us atleast receive someone out there who has potential to make the major leagues one day.

Now is the opportunity to deal Thornton. We wont receive any Top 10 prospects, but atleast there's a possibility of adding some higher ceiling, lower level players. I know people will resist dealing him, as they'll probably bring up his value to our team and the unlikeliness of a complete rebuilding project, but just remember this moment when he's losing velocity and stealing 4+ million from our team.

Please, lets save ourselves some dignity and quit prolonging this team's death. At this point, we're certain Pierzynski is gone (with his 10/5 rights about to be enacted), but I wouldn't mind to see a flurry of other trades as well. Let's just purge ourselves all in one motion.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2010 -> 10:57 AM) Callis mock draft has Sox taking Loux, EVEN with Grandal and McGuire still on the board. If that happens, you might as well just sell the team. NO to McGuire. He's being touted as this year's 'safe pick' who 'knows how to win.' We've seen how that philosophy has played out in the past. I'd really love to take a chance with Matt Harvey if he's around. Although I know better. He'd be a great selection for someone with multiple first round picks, like the Angels or Houston.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 3, 2010 -> 12:05 PM) Im all for a computer ump. Have a green light and a red light behind the plate, one for balls and one for strikes. The actual calls in the IF would be tougher to figure out, but the human error part is starting to get ridiculous in some of these sports. My idea is there should be a system where invisible lasers are set up around home plate (above the plane of the plate, and at a side area that would allow someone to adjust the points depending on the height of the hitter), and the umpire would wear special glasses that allow him to see the colors. I'm basically envisioning a box, unlike that you would see on a K-Zone replay, that an umpire could easily distinguish when it crosses the plate as a strike. Granted, any idea that removes the power of umpires to call balls and strikes is controversial, but I figure such a concept aides umpires -- opposed to removing them entirely -- and would allow many to hold onto their jobs.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 3, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Okay? See this is the problem with opening up the door. It's only a problem for current umpires and those attempting to become umpires. Which, judging from past posts of yours, that is exactly what you are.

QUOTE (pktmotion @ May 26, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) This is why we should trade Thornton now or next year. Have Santos close for a few years and then trade him. In baseball you're always blessed with second chances and you're measured by how much you've learned the first time around. I know the issue I had with Jenks was his drop in velocity. Even though he was still an effecient pitcher (which is why they ultimately didn't deal him), I worried that his fastball would continue to drop. I never thought he'd have problems with his curveball before his fastball, as is what's happening now. With Thornton, who is really all fastball, the FIRST sign of a velocity drop over an extended period should be a warning sign to deal him. As of now, he's still the same pitcher of old.

Also, it was the first time I've ever seen him, but that Indians pitcher Ambriz looks like can be trouble for us in the coming years. His stuff reminds me of the old Brad Lidge. Great fastball and slider.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 26, 2010 -> 01:51 PM) We should of traded his ass when we could . This is the price of loyalty. The problem is Santos came along at the wrong time. If this is 2007, I would believe the Sox trade him. Before this year, we just weren't going to deal Jenks -- especially as a team looking to contend.

What the f***? We won.

What would make this game even better is if a ridiculous umpire call going against us (play at the plate, ball four call) decided the game. Strikeout, 2 down. We cannot win this game after all that has happened. Not this season

This team is just terrible as it is. Why not throw in a few demoralizing losses for entertainment?

f***ING RIDICULOUS play calling by AJ. Jenks cannot locate a changeup, so he calls it twice. Then he calls a curveball, which he hasn't been able to locate this season, on a 3-2 pitch, when Hafner has had problems with Jenks' fastball.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 25, 2010 -> 07:59 PM) Some terrible at bats tonight. Castro couldn't look more overmatched. He's too fat to hit now. He's just a disgusting looking individual. Like Toby Hall's Hispanic half brother. And his inability to hit sickens me further.

Now Guillen, you have a chance to pick up an important game. Your last two relievers should be Santos/Thornton, 8th and 9th inng respectively. Do not f*** this up.

Not yet, Hudson. A year from now he would have been out.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 11, 2010 -> 07:55 PM) i wish veterans like konerko and aj would stop with the dramatics at the plate when they pop up. it gets old. AJ should be used to it this season, and Konerko always has a few suicide shrugs in his back pocket -- whether he's struggling or not. If you add in Quentin, It's terrible watching the body language of people on this team.