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Platoon DH/1B/catcher. We’ll get plenty of ABs against right handed pitching in 2020.

When is the last time this has happened in MLB? Honest question. It’s been awhile.

There is zero percent chance that Boston would trade Betts, one of the very best players in the game - even if only for a year - for a guy that is going to be nontendered and a guy that has 2 years of control but will miss the majority of 1 season with TJS. To suggest otherwise is just plain silly.

Cmon man. Stop with this spamming nonsense.

He can have the illustrious distinction for 1 season!

His optimism knows no bounds! A true company man!

Especially when, in today's market, there should be plenty of solid SP options available on 1 year deals. Just make the first SP add an impact one. The one situation where I could get behind the logic on two SP on multiyear deals is Wheeler + Ryu. And that is if Ryu could actually be attained a 2 year deal in the $30-35M range a FG projected.

I don't think Pederson would cost much, and yes I would perfer him to Castellanos who I hate as a fit unless the Sox go balls to the walls. But I'd love to hear your extensive list of options.

Unless you think the Sox plan to flirt with the luxury tax on 2022-2025, there is zero percent chance the OD payroll is north of $150M. To do what you’re proposing in one offseason is just simply not feasible.

Yah, its less than ideal. But most lefties don't hit lefties well, and Leury can play some RF against lefties. He hits lefties very well.

Also only for 1 season, whereas you're likely committing to at least 4 years with Castellanos. So now you either have a poor OF defense for the next 4 years, or you have an expensive DH with a slightly over league average bat.

Yah, its pretty simple. One multi-year SP, one backend guy on 1 year deal. Which is why the one multi-year SP needs to be Wheeler or Ryu and not Keuchel or Hamels. Sox don't need to spend the money necessary to sign 2 SP to longer term deals. Allocate elsewhere.

Very predictable content.

Will Smith should be in there too. So 8 reject, 2 accept. About as I expected.

The Twins wanted Odorizzi back. 4 of their 5 SP were free agents. Now they have Berrios, Odorizzi and Graterol, though Graterol isn't going to be able to be in the rotation the full year. They still need at least 2 more SP.

Its unnecessary though. I am not going to worry about it until we get a real answer though.

Odorizzi accepts QO. Will Smith signs with Braves - 3 years $40m (so he declines)

Effectively, would I sign a 36 year old Grienke to a 2 year $70M deal in this market? Probably not. I'd rather bet a slightly more money for double the years on Wheeler.

Insert Boston media comment.

Are you referring to Castellanos? You're also ignoring the fact that Jose basically has 1/$17.8M in hand. That obviously changes the calculus for him. He'd be a moron to turn down 1/$17.8M for anything under $2/25M, IMO.

Your take on this is a bit extreme. Jose is a lifetime .293/.349/.513 hitter coming off a .284/.330/.503 season and lead the AL in RBIs. While DH/1B types aren't getting paid like they used to, Jose Abreu will be in the big leagues for several more seasons barring a dramatic drop off. The chances of him becoming a milb contract guy a year from now are pretty small. If I were Jose, I wouldn't accept anything under 2/$30M. Which clearly he hasn't, which is why we are where we are.

I mean, I agree any three year deal is barf. But tacking on 2 years and $12M total to the QO isn’t bad. Reduces his 2020 pay from $17.8 to $10M and there is another $8M to spend on other upgrades. But I agree. 2/$25M would be my offer, but the Levine rumor is 3 years, though anything from him should be taken with a giant salt shaker.

I thought it was 3B.

I mean I agree Sox shouldn't be offering 3/$35M, and that Jose should probably take that if on the table (doubt it is), but I don't think its insane to think Jose could beat a 2 year $17.8M deal next offseason without a QO attached. He definitely isn't going to be on a minor league deal is 2022 unless he absolutely falls off a cliff. I also think there is a point in which the Sox would prefer a multi year deal as compared to the QO. 2/$25M is better than 1/$17.8M. 3/$30M is probably also better than 1/$17.8M.

I prefer we don't use trade assets on acquiring SP when there is plenty on the FA market that only cost money.