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5 years and $60M is super interesting. obviously longer than what everyone wants, but I was thinking he'd get closer to Cutch's 3 years $50M. I'd definitely take the extra 2 years and $10M.

If we don't sign MM, I'd rather just roll with internal options. Maybe even give Fulmer one final last shot at starting, though I am now mostly convinced he's a RP if anything in the bigs.

Not that I would want him, but Perez is off the board to MN as well now.

1. Gio Gonzalez 2. Clay Buchholz 3. Ervin Santana 4. Wade Miley 5. Manny Banuelos 6. Jordan Stephens 7. Dylan Covey

One thing this does show is that the Sox were willing to lose a draft pick to sign someone other than Harper.

Plus Ruiz, Stephens and Banuelos as well.

I did agree, but thought that would have been handled by now. Not sure what they’re waiting for, and they’ve let a good chunk of the market pass them by.

Lol, then how do you explain their lack of activity in an otherwise pretty advantageous market for buying SP?

Least shocking thing ever.

Yah, definitely bizarre.

No doubt, but I doubt he'd leave $4-5M guaranteed on the table.

We have any INTL dollars left to spend in this period? Dodgers have been mentioned with this Yolbert Sanchez guy. I'd love to include some of that to offset the prospect cost.

$1.5M base, incentives up to $5M. Wow - I know both of us really like Pomeranz for this team. Just don't get why we wouldn't gamble on something this cheap. Sox seem pretty content in rolling with one Banuelos/Covey/Stephens/Adams for the 5th spot.

Good, because the Sox aren't signing MM to play SS.

Yah, I've lived in Minneapolis or the surrounding areas for the majority of my life. If it is wonderful place to grow up and a great place to raise a family. A strong economy, good paying jobs, safe, clean, good schools. All four seasons; tons to do in the summer. The lakes are phenomenal. Great fishing, great golfing. All major sports teams. Great food and music scene. It's a great place to live. But the winters are brutal.

I agree, LAD probably doesn't take that deal. But they seem motivated to move Joc. They want to add Pollock and need to move someone. IMO, the whole Joc move makes so much more sense as a LAD salary dump with Hill tied to the deal with minimal return from the Sox, but seems cold water has been thrown on that idea from those in the know.

I said anyone. As in, no other teams are going to be bowling LAD over for Joc either. I wasn't referring to only the Sox. If you can get Joc for something like Bummer + Lambert or Stephens, I am doing it all day everyday, regardless of Machado. I would prefer to hold onto lottery tickets like Fulmer and Bush, personally.

I think that's a fair take. I see it both ways. To be fair, I said if the price isn't that high. If the Sox are acquiring Joc without MM, I think the value I'd be willing to give up would be slightly less. In any event, I don't think anyone is giving up much of anything for Joc with the FA market still flush with options.

I personally just don't think Harper was ever a realistic option for the Sox. I am sure the Sox would have interest if MM goes elsewhere, but I doubt they're paying him what would be required to actually get him to sign here ($360M+). I don't think Bryce is at all interested in playing for the Sox. Just my opinion.

If the price isn't that high, I think the Sox would take Joc regardless of Machado situation.

Why are teams going to give up real assets when you can just go sign a guy like Nick Markakis for $6M? Still some good players on the FA market. I don't think any team is going to be bowling LAD over for Joc.

And going through what is likely a pretty stressful process again in 10-11 months, when you're 1 year older, 1 less year of prime, and 1 full season of injury risk. It makes no sense.

Gordo signs with the Tigers.

I want to see it happen just to see Balta and DA's head explode.

Valencia does still torch LHP - .295/.371/.496 slash his last three seasons. Not really an OF, but did play 17 games in RF last season.