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QUOTE (heirdog @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) We got spoiled w 2 great hauls in 2 days and we've grown impatient. I get it. But I'm fully on board with Hahn's thinking that we need our asking price met or we keep Q. We don't have any imposed deadline...much less so than the contending teams that need the piece to give themselves a legitimate shot. It's clear that teams are still interested despite the asking price so it's clearly not egregiously out of the ball park so let this play out and eventually, someone will send us a package of prospects we deem as appropriate to Q's high value. Our arbitrary SoxFest and Spring Training deadlines are not unique to just us. Interested teams would love to lock down a trade and unveil Q at their fan convention or before the season too so as we get closer, you'll see more action or even us pulling Q off the market to revisit at the deadline. If the latter happens, someone might still just give in and make the deal. If not, the below asking price offers today should be available at the deadline too. +100. Great post.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Awe hell, let's just skip Martes and make the package Tucker, Reed, Fisher and Stubbs. Doubt Houston would do that but I would. Man, seems like that'd be a nice deal for HOU.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) I'm going to keep saying it, but give me Martes, Tucker, Reed, plus one other piece. How much fun would this rotation be to follow in 2018? 1. Rodon 2. Giolito 3. Martes 4. Lopez 5. Fulmer With Kopech nipping at Fulmer's heels. I agree that offer is at least very intriguing. I doubt its been offered though.

I've said it before - but if Q sticks around, it sure would be nice to add a couple bats. But the cupboard is getting barren. Pedro Alvarez, Adam Lind, Justin Morneau, Mike Napoli, Luis Valbuena, Logan Morrison, Brandon Moss would all be DH options. OF options are pretty picked over at this point - Gregor Blanco, Angel Pagan, Drew Stubbs, Austin Jackson are really all that is left.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) Rodon should undoubtedly be available for the right deal. I have serious doubts they would get the right offer for Rodon, but if they do they should take it. Yah - what the rest of the cream of the crop guys are available for. No one is going to pay that.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) If you believe he's going to be an ace, then you wait until he's an ace to trade him, not trade him now for other prospects with similar amount of control/risk. There's really no good reason to trade him unless you're very bearish on him. This. Trading Rodon now would be idiotic.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 08:13 AM) Collins will get the entire season in the minors to show he can handle the position. His bat will be mlb ready fairly quickly, but they should take their time developing his glove through the minor leagues. I expect him to rake in the minors this year, and if the defense progresses he should rocket up top 100 prospect lists Yah, for all the talk of acquiring a catching prospect, we have the second best one in the game! To be fair, though, it would be great to get a ML ready guy that could split time w Narvaez like Sererino, Diaz or Murphy. To a lesser extent Stubbs (probably not ML ready).

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 09:09 AM) Whether Levine is full of it or not EVERYONE seemed to pick it up and run with it. A s*** load of other media outlets reporting his article as if its solid intel. Like who? I haven't seen anything from the more reputable names in the last day.

The circles and circles Soxtalk has gone on this Q trade is impressive. All realistic teams covered. Packages analyzed and discussed. Man oh man, does it need a new meaningful transaction.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 01:35 PM) According to the fansided article, the Sox did extremely well in the Sale and Eaton deals #1 Moncada and #22 Kopech + Basabe and Diaz is a great haul #10 Lopez and #12 Giolito + Dunning is also great Sox likely aren't backing off a Meadows + Glasnow or Keller headlined package According to this, that is 3 top 25 names. Also a bunch of the Braves guys that have been discussed that weren't top 100 guys are now.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 01:16 PM) I know we are all dying for a tweet or new rumor But to tide us over take a look at Fansided's toip 125 2017 mlb prospects... http://calltothepen.com/?s=top+125+prospects They really like the White Sox, with Moncada, Lopez, Giolito, Kopech, Collins, Burdi, Hansen and Fulmer all in the top 125 Interesting that they have Lopez all the wau up at 10. Giolito #13. Kopech in the early 20s. Collins #60. Burdi in the 70s.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 01:16 PM) I know we are all dying for a tweet or new rumor But to tide us over take a look at Fansided's toip 125 2017 mlb prospects... http://calltothepen.com/?s=top+125+prospects They really like the White Sox, with Moncada, Lopez, Giolito, Kopech, Collins, Burdi, Hansen and Fulmer all in the top 125 Too bad they don't have it in a better format than that awful slideshow garbage.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) I've said from the beginning that Dahl + Rodgers would be amazing. The Rockies are way too unpredictable to gauge, but if they sign someone like Trumbo and the Sox include Robertson or Jones in the deal, this scenario isn't that far-fetched. Ehhh. Robertson, maybe. I don't like a Q/Jones for Dahl/Rodgers deal. For just Q, I could maybe do just the two.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) http://sportsmockery.com/2017/01/mlb-insid...uintana-trades/ Breakdown of suggested deals Astros = Martes + Tucker + Paulino Pirates = Bell + Keller + Newman/Tucker Yankees = Mateo + Judge + Rutherford + Tate Rockies = Dahl + Rodgers Thoughts guys? I know sports mockery is usually trash, but this is from a former GM Dahl + Rodgers may be my choice of all those, honestly. If we could get Murphy in there too, I'd be super stoked. But that'd be a great trade for the Sox.

.308/.364/.545 32 HR and 106 RBI. He's gonna rake.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 12:00 PM) todd frazier, chsiox settle at $12M https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/819967146377838593 That ain't bad at all.

Rays claim Jason Coats, so he gone. Too bad.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) I'm not saying trade him now for whatever you can get. I am saying whatever is too much to give up for Q this offseasom will still be too much to give up for Q in July, and next offseason, and next July on and on. Barring a miracle Cy Young caliber season this is peak Q value. Hahn can be as upset as he wants that "his price" isn't being met, but taking his ball and going home because New York won't give him their three top prospects just exposes the Sox to a ton of unnecessary risk for what is overwhelmingly likely to be no gain. What other teams are willing to give up determines Q's price not what you want to get for him. You guys are acting like this market where there is one, maybe two, effective starters available will last forever....it wont. It probably expires sometime in May. And by July 31 Q will be one of a few guys and by next offseason he'll be one of many. That is the moment you'll be begging just to get Kevin Newman because the only teams you'll be negotiating with are the ones who rely on their prospects to survive and covet them as such. The big time clubs will all be spending money, because they would rather lose that than prospects. And if Q just loses his mojo or gets hurt? Forget about it. You'll be begging to dump his salary. So if you think holding Q past about mid-February is a good idea you are betting on him to become Clayton Kershaw. Lol. Dude, time to step away from Soxtalk for a few days. You've lost your ability to view things objectively.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) I can see a very good reason why Micah Johnson is not a good fit for the White Sox. Micah Johnson's best position is 2b, he had arm problems that made an OF spot a pretty poor plan for him and ditto anything on the far side of the field. Our 2b in AAA is...filled. I'm aware of all that. Still doesn't mean the Sox wouldn't have interest. Nothing wrong with options.

Trade them $10k, a bucket of balls and log of chew. That should do it. Honestly though, see no reason to not give Micah back in the fold.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) Really? That's the worst case scenario? Worst case scenario for me is he blows his arm out in the WBC and the Sox get nothing. The dude is controlled for 4 years. Relax. Sure, he could have a career ending shoulder injury. And so could anybody they're trading for. Hell, a f***in' astroid could hit the US in a few weeks and none of this would matter. Q has shown virtually no reason to worry about injury. Taking a best offer now, when the player has FOUR FULL SEASONS of control is the definition of panicking, and I can assure you RH is not doing that. He has said this will take time on multiple occasions. He gets what he wants, or he holds until he does.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 02:29 PM) Gahhhh, am I glad you're not running the negotiations. This kind of mentality of fear is how you capitulate and trade him for an underwhelming package. You don't know how Q will pitch, you don't know how Newman will play (or Glasnow, or Meadows or anyone else). None of us do. But, this mentality of "it can only get worse from here" is pure BS. If you trade for the prospects now, you're taking a risk as well. The trade deadline could yield a buyer who isn't in the bidding process today (maybe a starter gets injured), for prospects who maybe we aren't even talking about today. Preach, brother. Accepting a best offer trade right now that isn't on par with what the Sox want because RH panicked is the worst case scenario here.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 05:59 PM) Colby Rasmus to the Devil Rays. 1 year for $5M, with $7M in incentives. Honestly, not bad. I would have loved to see the Sox do that.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) Fixed. Being a Sox fan is rough, but Twins fans have it even worse. It seems like they've been rebuilding forever and really have nothing to show for it. Dozier is their only valuable trade chip left and they're screwed if they mess up that trade. That's debatable. The Twins have some impressive young talent that a has a great deal of value (Buxton, Sano, Berrios, Kepler) . Fortunately (or unfortunately) depending on which may you want to look at it, most of that value is in young players with a good deal of cheap control. They don't have much in the way of valuable assets they're looking to trade. But yeah, I do agree that the Twins are in a pretty bad spot. / Thread jack.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:35 AM) http://m.pirates.mlb.com/news/article/2130.../?tcid=tw_share Seems like a weird article to pump out by a beat writer employed by the Pirates if they weren't taking a real shot at Q.