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https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/10/14/white-sox-will-pursue-starting-pitching-help-this-offseason-chris-getz-luis-castillo-davis-martin

If his comment was a joke David Samson certainly didn't think so when he talked about it and the Sox never denied the conversation.

The link I posted with Foul Territory talking with Josh Nelson has a lot of the info you are looking for. Nelson broke down the strikeouts against high speed fastballs.

The very interesting comment in this piece was where A.J. said the Sox tried to put Castillo on the IL before they finally did so before the playoffs and he said, "no." Hmmmmm. A.J. also isn't convinced the Sox are going to spend money this off season he said he's going by the history under JR.

One factoid today: October 14, 1906 - The Sox beat the Cubs, winning the World Series four games to two behind the pitching of Guy "Doc" White. They clinched the title winning the sixth game 8-3. “Big” Ed Walsh won two games for the Sox during the series with infielder George Rohe batting .333 and playing in all six games. The “Hitless Wonders” White Sox had a team batting average of only .230 for the season and hit even worse, .198 in the series. But they collected 10 doubles and three triples in the six games and held the powerful Cubs to a series batting average of only .196 After the game, owner Charles Comiskey handed a 15,000 thousand dollar check to manager Fielder Jones. It was to be split among the players. The players viewed the check as a bonus for their efforts. Comiskey though considered it as part of their 1907 salary! The seeds of the eventual “Black Sox” scandal were perhaps sown on this day. It is the only time in over a century of playing baseball that the Sox and Cubs have ever met in the postseason.

Plus his age.

Make that TWO starting pitchers.

Just wondering. Not being snarky. What's the fallback plan if (when) the owners position on a salary cap/floor is rejected by the union and after a period of time the owners fracture and their position collapses. Just asking for a friend! 🙂 What are the Sox prepared to do payroll-wise?

Considering what they gave up for him....that made it even worse.

My father used to say, "Wish in one hand, piss in the other...see which fills up first." No way the Sox even attempt to sign those guys.

They said they got it early and the prognosis is very good.

Anything can happen but I have a hard time seeing the MLBPA agree to any type of cap or floor. it's simply not in their DNA. This gets resolved I think with some smaller concessions on their part and the owners fracturing as they always do.

Catch up to them by hiring away the best and brightest. Pay them whatever they want but get them over here.

Arizona Fall League Update: Two White Sox prospects out o...Now that the White Sox are out of the postseason — and it’s assuring to see the Guardians are capable of tormenting other teams’ bullpens, even a fresh one — it’s time to shift our attention to the us

Talks about who he thinks is the "core" of the team: "Miguel Vargas, Chase Meidroth, Grant Taylor, Sean Burke and Sam Antonacci. No one else is untouchable, including Munetaka Murakami, who will be a free agent after ’27, and Kyle Teel, who did not deliver offensively and spent most of the season rehabbing injuries. The Sox need starting pitching and bullpen help, more contact hitters, a stronger bench and yes, more catching, as Teel and Edgar Quero both regressed." Talks about the pitching staff: "With Fedde gone, next year’s rotation should include Burke, Taylor, Hagen Smith and a free agent starter who will sign after the lockout ends. Veteran Sonny Gray would be a perfect choice. The rest of the ’26 starters who were demoted in the postseason can fight for the final spot, though Castillo, who is owed $22.7 million next year, is not a viable option." Talks about the strikeouts: "No 2027 Sox lineup can have both Murakami and Colson Montgomery in it and not expect 3-6 combined strikeouts a game between them, every game. Murakami has one year left on his two-year deal, and the Sox are open to an extension, which seems crazy after his second-half slide and postseason flop. Montgomery hit 31 home runs and won’t be a free agent for four more years, but he struggled to find a groove and struck out a major-league record 227 times. The idea of waiting until No. 1 pick Roch Cholowsky is ready to replace him at shortstop seems ludicrous. If the Sox can find a team that thinks they can fix Montgomery’s swing, go for it. They can always move Meidroth to short and Antonacci to second, then figure it out when Cholowsky is." Talks about the hitting coach: "The Sox’ offensive meltdown was not all Shomon’s fault. But if they’re hoping for improvement from Teel, Braden Montgomery, Murakami and the rest, maybe a change in hitting philosophy is needed." Talks about Pham: "There’s no warning label on Pham, but this kind of behavior was predictable. Venable could’ve escorted Pham out of the media room before the veteran made a scene, but chose to let him finish his rant. Pham didn’t help the Sox on the field, and he embarrassed himself off the field." Talks about Venable: "Venable is the likely favorite to be named American League Manager of the Year and deserves much credit for getting the Sox as far as he did. But analytics only go so far. Like his players, Venable can learn from his first postseason as manager. All in all, a remarkable journey for the Sox, who became relevant again in Chicago under Venable. But to stay that way, it will take more than a few tweaks this offseason."

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/10/13/chicago-white-sox-rebuild-2027-season/

From the Sun-Times story tonight: "Being humiliated by the rival Packers is a red flag that his predecessors haven’t had to confront in years. Matt Eberflus never lost by as many as 24 points at Lambeau Field. Neither did Matt Nagy or John Fox. The last time the Bears were so outclassed in Green Bay was a 55-14 loss in 2014 that set Marc Trestman down the road to unemployment. No one is suggesting Johnson is on that path. He won the NFC North last year and deserves credit for leading the Bears to consecutive victories with two different backups under center. The worst part is who it was against — and how that affects the Bears’ postseason chances. The Bears went 2-4 in the North last season and still somehow found a way to win it. That won’t happen again. The Bears are 3-2, yet last in the NFC North, the result of losing both their divisional games this season. The Vikings, who many thought were the worst team in the North, are 5-0 this season. The Packers are Lions are each 3-2. The former knew what was at stake, beyond just rivalry bragging rights, on Sunday. The easiest path to the playoffs is to beat up on your division. Since Johnson took over, though, the Vikings lead the NFC North with a 6-2 record. The Packers are 5-3 and the Lions 2-4. The Bears are 2-6. Johnson has won 25% of his regular-season divisional games, the same as Trestman. He could win his next five NFC North contests and still have a worse divisional winning percentage than Nagy did the day he was fired." Chicago Sun-TimesBen Johnson's loss was disconcerting for reasons that go...Sunday’s blowout at the hands of his rival came with the Bears favored to win at Lambeau Field for the first time in 20 years. Expectations were different. The disappointment was greater.

Far to often in my opinion the Sox game plan was to "hope" things would happen for the better. History shows more often than not, "hope" is not a recipe for success.

And don't forget Brazoban! 😁

Man that Buffalo/Rams game was an all-time classic. Hard to believe that was the first time Allen ever won an overtime game.

Dylan Covey! 🤪

Good luck with that idea. Let's just say the track record not just in his disastrous time with the Sox but even before that isn't very good. If he is going to get hammered basically every time out, force a bigger load on the bullpen and make it almost impossible to win the game, the innings pitched factor doesn't matter.

Cleveland does what Cleveland does. Been doing it for a decade.

One notation today: October 13, 1970 - New player personnel director Roland Hemond made his first deal in that capacity for the club. Hemond sent John “Pineapple” Matias and Gail Hopkins to the Royals for Don O’Riley and Pat Kelly. Kelly, who was the brother of Browns running back Leroy Kelly, provided speed for the “New Look” White Sox. A solid hitter and leadoff man, Pat would make the All-Star Team in 1973 when he hit .280 with 22 steals. He played for the Sox from 1971 through 1976 and stole 119 bases.

Takeaways from the final White Sox game of 2026 - Sox Mac...Toward the end of what turned out to be the White Sox’s final sustained scoring threat of the 2026 season in Game 5 Saturday night, Miguel Vargas came to the plate with runners on first and second and