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I liked most of the moves they made... the only one I thought was suspect was LaRoche. There is likely some dysfunction at the top and not everything its Ventura's fault but this team just plays such dumb/uninspired baseball. The players, especially the veteran ones, a lot of it falls on their shoulders. To me the only group that sometimes shows some mental fortitude is the pitching staff. The rest of the players, nearly all of them seem eternally in a negative mental funk - and its spreading. I don't see a team that plays with any confidence and that plays tight. Maybe its not Robin's fault but I don't see a team that plays loose - despite the conclusion that manager is "laid back" Robin will go down as one of the most unsuccessful managers in White Sox history - its too bad because he seems a great guy with a great sense of humor. From Day one it never felt right , it wasn't going to work and it never did - one season that was a choke job down the stretch and the rest basement dwellings.

Abreu is scaring me... I'm not sure who the real guy is. He has sucked hardcore as of late.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 06:18 PM) Then don't. Problem solved. Nothing else to DVR before bedtime...

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 20, 2015 -> 10:02 PM) All I'm saying is that the players seem to really like playing for our manager and FO. The media tries to cause dissention among the family and people latch on to that propoganda without a second thought. Cooper slammed a phone-> Cooper hates Robin-> clean house! Ludicrous. Flowers sucks. That is fact. The rest I dunno. People have been saying clean house for months...no one is saying Cooper hats Robin. But cracks might be forming... which commonly happens when you lose. None of this is new.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 20, 2015 -> 05:23 PM) Sale in a 2-0 game in the 7th, after an 8 day rest,,with a taxed bullpen, right around 100 pitches. How can it be anything but Robin is the biggest idiot? The more opinions I Read, the more I understand why innocent people take plea deals. Your going to have to give me some links where its stated that Cooper "makes pitching decisions" as in when to take the pitchers out... I've read that 3 times in this thread and have never in my life heard that. I think Coopers has a lot of input but when it comes to "the Hook" that's Ventura all the way. I read something about how Robin lead the league in "Slow Hooks" last year which is understandable since the bullpen was horrid. (this is from Bill James) it didn't say Cooper led the league in slow hooks... Not everything is Robin's Fault but your relentless defense of him in all things is pretty strange. Robin is one part of the problem but not the entire problem - but he is indeed part of it.

I've never seen him do anything like that.... even after the 10000 times a pitcher has given up the game.

Did you guys catch that? I'm reading that as he didn't agree with leaving Sale in that long.

another finally managed game by Ventura... One of the worse I've ever seen.

Jose either has his head stuck up his A** or he is hurt. If it's the latter this guy has some problems staying healthy big time.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 19, 2015 -> 02:11 PM) Apologies if posted elsewhere, but apparently nothing wrong with Robertson yesterday, just another brilliant attempt at strategy by RV. Dude's in a league of his own. http://www.southsidesox.com/2015/7/19/8999...david-robertson Too bad he didn't do us a solid Sandberg and bow at the ASB. Robin is a hell of a good guy. Not a major league manager... not even close.

The middle of our line up is such a pile of dog **** No power.. Abreu has me worried he is looking like a 1 year wonder.

Just don't blame Ventura for this little league level mental team... Over and over again they make these dumb plays. Melky should have hit the bench after that play.

Robin and the coaching staff really has these guys in the right frame of minds in key situations. When ALL your hitters look scared up there thats on the coaching. What a bunch of frauds.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) He has nobody around him While that is true... I watch every game and this game alone he had a TON of good pitches to drive. He isn't scaring any pitchers right now they just come right at him... he is a horrible mistake hitter. The only pitch ive seen him dangerous on this year is a fast ball up outside corner that he can drive into right field. I guess it shows his potential that he can be missing so many pitches and hitting .292

If he isn't going to hit with any power we should be selling tomorrow. I kind of wish they would go back on all star break forever. Painful to watch this constipated team... its like a car crash I can't turn away from.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...x-all-star-game Sale may be pushed back to the Cardinals series as Robin and Yost have agreed that he will pitch one inning in the All Start game. I really hope not... can't have Sale missing and starts if we are actually trying to get back in it. If we aren't then yeah no big deal.

They aren't selling.. these guys have thrown in all their chips for this " 3 year plan" If there is even a little chance they will keep at it... their nuts are on the line. Only person who might go is Shark.

sitting Abreu was dumb.

so glad Robin got LaRoche in today.... No Abreu no chance against good pitching (and even then doubtful with our hitters).

If we can find a decent infielder who can hit.. then maybe. But with two guys on the infield who hit under .200 and a bunch of other guys that aren't exactly scary. I don't see it happening... unless we make some kind of move.

That's the dude I remember and why I thought it was an awesome trade... Like nearly everyone else in baseball thought.

that was a horrible call... But Abreu is just slapping the ball around right now ... He like the rest of our hitters are just soft this year.

Danks vs Tornonto was a bad idea... This team sucks but allowing Danks to face this lineup was a loss waiting to happen.

didn't like the hit and run with LaRoche... On the other hand LaRoche with two strikes just scares me... ridiculous how we cant score runners from 3rd.

Hawk says we will score more runs.... I'm not so sure.. history says otherwise.