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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 08:57 PM) Game winning hit yesterday. Right... let him swing...

That was a joke of a managed inning in my book... Beckham should have tried to bunt at least twice. Squeeze with Sanchez? Sorry I can't wait for this guy to go away.

Avi may be one of the most overated/over hyped players I've ever seen. To me he looks like a 260 ish career hitter with below average power.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) Q giving runs up tonight. Quintana hasn't been as good this year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 07:34 PM) And/or there's a defensive lapse or two behind him... Sure it does happen to him sometimes.

Q is a battler... but I swear the moment you give him a lead he gives it back.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 03:46 PM) Oh yea, every organization sends someone out before the trade deadline and says "We are willing to part with this player" That's not the point... it's just a random statement out of left field. Isn't credible in anyway...

interesting thing about all of this.. Nothing in that article quotes anyone from the whitesox organization saying anything about trading alexei... Though the title says "white sox willing to part ways with Ramirez," and then absolutely nothing to back that up is said in the article.

another knee shaking outing by Robertson... guy isn't even close to an all star.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 02:35 PM) That was 111, so if 113 is too much, yanking him with 111 after 125 his previous outing and a $14 million a year closer coming in makes a ton of sense. There was a reason to leave him in last game. No reason to leave him in this game.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) The complaints for not pulling him were 100% pitch count. The point wasn't the pitch count... the point is he has been getting smacked around and there is no reason to leave him in anymore... As opposed to the other night where he was on fire and got pulled and they lost.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Guys, it's 113 pitches. He's a grown-ass man. Relax. I guess you and Dick missed the game where robin took him out with less pitches and he was on fire.... And they lost.

Lol .... So ventura pulls him out in the 9th when he is destroying people..... but leaves him in for an extra 10 pitches down 6-1. Please resign.

Can't remember the last win like that... where wasn't nailbiting until the end...

I never said I thought closers were worth more... just that its their job.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) Pretty much. Everybody thought saves were useful for a long time; arbitration is still especially broken in that regard, but luckily most GM's today are living in reality. If Wade Davis and Dellin Betances were free agents in 2016 they would get monster crazy bucks, and they have 16 career saves between them. I'm not breaking new ground here; people have been arguing for a long time that saves are horrible. Thank you. Miller is the perfect example. Miller isn't a closer.... If you want to argue that Roberston deserves to go to the all star game just because of Whip/ERA and leave out saves... He still doesn't have as good of stats as a lot of guys. Call me old school though I guess.... I believe a good closer slams that door. Roberston is one of the worst in the AL comparatively at shutting that door.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) He was signed to pitch well and he has. Saves are and always have been arbitrary and uninformative and I'm not that interested in a detailed discussion of why, but yes, I'll continue to ignore them. But I'm fully aware that they're a big part of how all-stars are chosen. Saves are arbitrary and uninformative... Well agents, managers, GM's, coaches, arbitrators all must be crazy (since this is how Closers get paid).

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) The saves stat is dumb and he's had a damn fine year. That said, I think he at least belongs in the conversation, but there enough other relievers doing ridiculous things in the AL that I'd be unsurprised if he is left out. Sale is a lock. So when he comes into the game and loses the lead/game WHEN THAT'S HIS JOB? that's a "dumb" stat we should ignore... the very thing he was signed to do. lol.... Roberston has been okay - but if you look at the list of closers in the American League... he aint an all star.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:37 PM) I guess you measure starters by how many losses they have. .84 WHIP, 12+Ks/9 is an excellent year. I measure a closer by his ability to close games. ERA. WHIP those are all nice (honestly they mean a lot more to me for a starting pitcher) but a closers job is to close. Roberston was great early in the year since then he has been folding like a lawn chair more often then not. He gets in with the lead his job is to keep that lead - the stats say the he leads the American League in FAILING at that job. That's not all star material - I don't recall any defensive lapses behind him either. I can remember 3 of the blown saves for sure and it was 100% him. I cant remember the other but I could look it up.

When nearly every players I underperforming in multiple facets of the game... you have to look at the coaching. I feel like there is some serious head in the sand business going on.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:18 PM) Robertson's had an excellent year. Great numbers. But they won't pick him off of a horrible team. Are you serious? Roberston is tied for the AL lead in blown saves. He has not had an excellent year... not even close.

QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:04 PM) Who didn't love to see the substitute teacher come into the classroom? This is exactly how I feel about Ventura. Great White sox player - monumentally misplaced as a major league manager.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:42 PM) Why did LaRoche bunt? Yeah that made me lol... bunt with 2 outs and a guy batting .222 behind you...

I like how we have a guy batting .172 0 Hr's as a right handed batter cleanup.

hawk is right about the defense... but he better include Danks in that. Might as well just let the other team hit off a tee.