Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Does Avi Garcia have a option to go to minors 2016? Yes.

How long is Adam Jones signed for? If I was an O's fan I wouldn't want money tied into someone like Davis and would rather re-sign Jones when the time comes.

Looking at the remaining free agents, you can make a pretty good lineup out of the guys still available minus maybe catcher. 1B: Davis 2B: Kendrick 3B: Freese SS: Desmond LF: Gordon CF: Cespedes RF: Upton DH: insert other name here

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) Bold prediction! ? I meant to say pages..d'oh!

Yep. This thread will get 100 pages before someone even signs.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) Nightengale will be on 670 this morning, 9:20 Can't really imagine him saying anything we don't know already.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 04:53 AM) Lazaro Armenteros: Armenteros, 16, stands 6-2, 205 pounds and has been hailed as the next Cuban star-in-waiting. He established residency in Haiti in May and will attract a crowd when he begins auditioning for teams in showcases and private workouts in the coming months. Last I had read about him was that they were not sure if he would be part of the 15 or 16 class. If 15 class, he's a Dodger or Cub but if he's 16 we have a shot.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 1, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) I'd really feel good about our offseason if we got Frazier, Lawrie and Cespedes and still have 3 top 50 picks. Along with not trading too many prospects. Micah had no position, who knows what Trayce will be, and Montas I still believe will end up a reliever. And the other guys we traded for Lawrie I didn't really care about.

I like the Edwin Jackson idea. Would only cost league minimum.

Move to Upton and give him opt out clauses after years 3 and 4 or something. Maybe a 5th as well.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) Jimmy Rollins is probably tired of baseball after playing 37 games a day in 2015. Lmao

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 02:30 PM) Isn't his average about $28 million the first 3 years? Then he could opt out. He is risking about $16 million with a chance to make a lot more. If he is great, Theo probably lets him walk, and gets 3 prime years out of him, and doesn't have to pay for the decline. I still think he is going to start hitting homers, but his defense will fall off a bit. 245 pound guys legs don't age all that well IMO. Agree I think he will hit for some more power and his defense will decline in center though I still believe he is in RF come opening day.

That's all if he even opt outs as was pointed out and thrown at me yesterday in the Kazmir thread. But if he's healthy and produces he'll opt out for sure.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) There is??? It make come as a shock, but yes.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) I understand that, I assumed people would understand I meant that the past two weeks have taken from my normal life. Even when I am at work I'm checking on the latest news. Pretty sure everyone realizes the world doesn't revolve around baseball rumors but it's hard to focus on real life which is why I would love to get a conclusion to this thing. So my productivity can increase in the other facets of my life that matter That's true. I do tend to do most of my checking at work when it's slow.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) The Heyward signing was thought to be the first domino, but I believe that the structure of his contract with the opt out slowed things down. These guys may be looking for a similar option...especially Upton because of his age. Also, as someone else mentioned, there aren't a ton of teams lining up to get these guys. There are probably only a half dozen teams that are really serious about them. I know we're all anxious for a signing, but it's looking more and more like we'll be waiting another week or so. I just hope that when the dust settles, the Sox will have signed one of the big three. I don't think the opt out has really anything to do with slowing things down. Maybe for Upton's case but not the other 2. Or the second tier free agents.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) Honestly I just want someone to sign so the other dominos start to fall. The past two weeks have been useless for me, all I do is check back on here and Twitter to see what's going on. For the sake of sanity I hope the market starts to move after this holiday weekend. I hope we end up with one of the three but really would just like a conclusion. This board needs it just as bad too I think. There is life outside baseball offseason rumors just to let everyone know.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) If he was using the same approach and swing, yes it would be a waste. If they want to change some things up, it is worth a shot. Nelson Cruz was a failed AAAA player until he changed some things up and/or took some booster shots. Agree he can work on some things.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 09:00 AM) Yeah, because nobody is going to sign those two before June. Yeah they will definitely be signed.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:48 AM) The Sox can use Avi as a platoon for LaRoche. Avi is also younger and less costly than Jackson although Jackson is a better outfielder. Avi only playing one full season and still being 24, I'd rather see get everyday at bats in AAA in the event that they decide to release LaRoche in say June/July if he's terrible, making Cabrera the DH.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) Any other ideas for the Sox in the event they don't sign one of Upton/Heyward/Gordon? I'm still not willing to assume the Sox sign one of those three so I refuse to get my hopes up only to have them come crashing down. Sometimes s*** just happens. I'm up in the air on Parra. I like what he did while playing for the Brewers but his numbers pretty much sucked for the Orioles. Not sure what happened there. Fowler has nice pop in his bat but I don't like his defense or the comp pick attached to him. Jackson does absolutely nothing for me. After those three the only remaining option is to look into a trade. For whom and at what cost I do not know. I do know that there are plenty of options out there and it's a buyers market so the costs should be reasonable. Cespedes* And I'm not sure what they will do. Maybe Jackson who I still want if there is money leftover to platoon with LaRoche.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2015 -> 08:25 AM) I always love the "if he was platooned correctly" line. Ventura platooned Trayce Thompson early to perfection, yet when he platooned him, people complained. He needs to be playing every day. Especially with the way bullpens are used today, if you platoon and yank a guy early, you are going to have a match up later where someone will call the manager a fool for not using players correctly. It was a lot easier when they had 15 or 16 position players on the roster. Now that it is 13 or sometimes even 12, the idea of being able to platoon all over the place is hogwash, especially when starting pitchers are making shorter appearances. Yeah he platooned Trayce at first, the 3B position last season and Konerko/Dunn in 14. I don't see how he isn't doing a good job of platooning.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) OK geez some of you guys... His "see you next year "comment doesn't mean he thinks what Nightengale said is contradictory . It means see you next year ,like in a few days is next year guys. They aren't close to signing anyone so give it a few more days.. next year, get it ? I don't think anyone is referring to that part. The first part where he says Nightengale predicts one of the big 3 to sign with Sox but that they aren't even close. And then goes "ok" like he's annoyed or saying whatever. And someone making a prediction and deals not even being close aren't related really. Like all he had to say was: "Nightengale says they aren't close on anyone. See you next year." But the part before it makes it seem like he's looking at it contradictory.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 06:36 PM) I just have a really hard time believing that the Sox won't do anything else now considering that they've already acquired Frazier and Lawrie. Those trades and meaningless and pointless if the Sox don't add anyone else. Why upgrade two positions when at least one more substantial upgrade is necessary to turn the team from a "wildcard hopeful" into a "legit contender". The bottom line, in my opinion, is that Hahn is not done making moves and something else will be done. Right now I'm just cautiously optimistic about this team. A bit skeptical. But adding another bat would really make me enthused.

Ah time to enjoy a good NYE and 4 day weekend.