Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 04:06 PM) I would have LOVED the Sox to have signed Heyward to that deal. Me too. I would have enticed him with opt outs every year though after the first four. Off year? Accept player option. Following season bounceback? Opt out and look for more money. Would have been fine with me.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) LOL just the title of this thread is hilarious. Makes it sound like some sort of throwdown....is Celebrity Death Match still around to make this happen?

He can opt out after 4th or after third depending on amount of at bats. Wow that's a hell of a deal.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:01 PM) Yeah, it's not like Hahn just said they're going to make more moves. Easier said than done. It's possible teams want too much prospect wise for players want to sign for more money. Ihope we get Cespedes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) So guesses on where the outfielders go: Gordon: Cardinals Upton: Giants Davis (not an OF): Orioles Fowler: Mets Cespedes: Tigers f*** we need to sign someone.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) Wouldn't be that shocking if Cubs were going after Jose Fernandez this entire time. Soler/Baez/Contreras/Hendricks/Torres could easily get it done. I could see it. Probably take more though. They have other good prospects.

2 hours ago: "Man I really want the Sox to sign Heyward at all costs." Now: "Meh he's no good." I literally have seen a few people flip flop that easy.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) I'd like to unload Avi and LaRoche too but it really makes no sense to diminish Q's value by throwing them in. Yeah especially when one only has one year left and the other can go to the minors.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) How many wins does Lawrie add? One? How many wins would Frazier add with a big year? 4 or 5? That gets us to .500, people. Big whoop. This needs to be a year for development. See what we have. Sure we can trade Trayce....but no one is going to give us a premium price for him precisely because he doesn't have the minor league pedigree. Had he torn it up in the minors AND had a month like this, he'd be a top 10 prospect. We may have a gem. We may not. But I doubt he's dud. See what we have in Sanchez as well. And Micah. Let Saladino fill whatever we need. See how the A ball talent (which looks strong) develps. It still can be a year of development with Lawrie trade. He's young and we didn't give up much to worry about. Fact is we had an older Mike Olt as the likely starter. Granted, I doubt we're done yet.

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:03 PM) We do this thread every year, and every year the correct answer is Jaime Navarro. Factor in his salary, playing time, attitude, opportunity cost and general suckiness--his best ERA+ with the Sox was 81!--no one can hold a candle to him in my opinion. His only redeeming quality was that we got Eldred and Valentin for him, leading to the successful 2000 team. Otherwise...yuck. He was the worst. I agree. Guys who maybe had a handful of appearance and we're cheap with the team shouldn't count because they didn't really effect the team too much.

Nats are apparently a real threat to sign him. They have a TV deal coming soon too forrect? They're gonna need it to pay Heyward and eventually Harper.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) The problem is that he will likely not be able to sustain that defensive prowess for the latter years of a 10 year contract. A good hitter might be able to produce big offensive production in his 30's, but elite defense is a little tougher. Give him an opt out every year after year 4 and he likely only plays 4-5 years of that contract.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Id rather keep my pick and sign Cespedes. Yeah if we're gonna sign a right handed power hitter I prefer Cespedes. AL tested is a plus.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:51 PM) I can sort of see why Ozzie did that though. He was only 25 at that point and they figured that they might as well give him a chance to see what he had since that was already a lost season. Needless to say it didn't work out, but I really don't fault Ozzie for that. Teams was awful and guys were injured anyway. So it didn't matter.

New mystery team involved.

Angels traded for Yunel Escobar to play third. Anyone think Freese is a realistic option at third now?

QUOTE (Downtown518 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Scot Gregor ‏@scotgregor 3m3 minutes ago Per @JPerrotto, #WhiteSox offered #Pirates Adam LaRoche in a trade, offered to pay $8m of his $13m salary in '16. Bucs declined Offer to eat a mill more and worse player you're looking to take back (which is probably already really low).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:08 PM) That's an attitude problem? I think that is a reach. I hope the White Sox get guys who want to play and aren't too pleased when they are sitting. You know we could get Adam Eaton from the White Sox but he's not worth the trouble. He has a bad attitude. He isn't happy when he doesn't play. Agree. Give me the guy who wants to be on the field.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) post #1000!!!! woooooo Anyone remember how long the Tanaka thread was almost 2 years ago?

QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) Gonna say trade for CarGo and sign Howie Kendrick. Then pen and rotation depth. This. What is the market even for Kendrick? Might be able to get him on a bargain.

If they are willing to take a package of our prospects of anyone but Anderson and Fulmer, I'd be for it. But it all depends on how motivated they want to move him and who else is interested. You never know.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:27 AM) I would take a risk on either Fuenmayor or Blash as RH DH platoon options if either lasts til 10. I think we have the flexibility to carry an extra guy like that with Saladino, Sanchez, and Trayce having great versatility defensively. If not I always like the option of taking a kid who can throw 98 and seeing what happens. I've seen enough from the likes of Putnam, Webb, Carrol, ect to take a risk on someone new Rockies should really take Fuenmayor if he's still there.

Worth mentioning we have 9th pick due to a team in front of us (Tigers) having a full 40-man roster.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:03 AM) One thing the team doesn't need, IMO, is a utility infielder. Saladino and Sanchez both look better than the options available to me. My guess is, they don't pick anyone. But if they do, they grab an arm. More likely, they will lose someone. And of course they will probably be active in the minor league phase. Yeah most likely an arm but competition isn't a bad thing. And as of now those two are our starters at second and short.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:13 AM) As an aside, looks like they reran his steamer projections since the trade and his SLG% went up about 30 pts. I dont think it's unfair to think he could be a 20 HR hitter this season. Agree.